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PsillyAsCanBe
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Stinky OLD GIANT Panaeolus antillarum and some Panaeolus Cyanescens? Please Help ID *DELETED*
#23004639 - 03/14/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: PsillyAsCanBe]
#23004665 - 03/14/16 12:45 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Any bruising? In your bucket it looks like you may have some? Hard to tell. Unsure of the big guy. Wait for a TI. they no best. Regardless, Nice find.
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PsillyAsCanBe
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: NothingsChanged]
#23004668 - 03/14/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Posting more pics ina sec of some of the bucket ones, haven't had time to bruise them all but they bruise greeny/blue im 99% all of the bucket ones are the same variety and I think its Panaeolus cyanescens only found out about the strain today walked past like 500 of them then by chance came across something about them then went back for them :P the big one seems like the same type aswell its just such a monster I can't be sure :P
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: PsillyAsCanBe]
#23004742 - 03/14/16 01:27 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow as long as she bruises up nicely, yes! Otherwise you just got a boring old record breaking antillarum. Either way, awesome size on that thing
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
#23004804 - 03/14/16 02:07 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I dont see any bruising at all... Im skeptical this is pan cyans..
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
#23004814 - 03/14/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks like there are some Pan.cyans in the bucket. That big one the cap looks different to Pan.cyan. I used to find big ones like that with the meanies. Well maybe not that big. They'd usually poke straight through the cow manure. So I'm guessing Panaeolus.antillarum but I'm not a TI.
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: Heyowana]
#23004823 - 03/14/16 02:14 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Haha I didnt realize you could scroll down. Only saw first pic. But yes, I definitely think I see some cyans in the bucket.
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PsillyAsCanBe
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: psilocybeMAN]
#23004870 - 03/14/16 02:53 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bruising it now this thing was standing up straight and I pulled with mycelium to keep it in its magnificent glory, just bruised it now lets pray.
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
#23004871 - 03/14/16 02:57 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah I pulled up the mycelium with this one I am bruising it now it just looks too much like a Panaeolus cyanescens and im not even well versed with them although I did find quite a few today, I will update with bruising..you ever seen one this big?
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: psilocybeMAN]
#23004872 - 03/14/16 02:58 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't see bruising at all, not even at either end of the stipe. It has a uniformly white/buff color and a size that would suggest Panaeolus antillarum.
Sure there are Copelandia that approach that size range, I've posted a photo here somewhere or in my gallery.
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: MidnightCity]
#23004896 - 03/14/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yep your right didn't bruise up, but you can see how i got confused haha I am about to post some of the haul of potential actual Panaeolus Cyanescens if you would like to take a look and tell me if theres anything in there that looks like not either Panaeolus Cyanescens or Panaeolus antillarum so I know im safe to eat them thanks for the reply
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: Heyowana]
#23004900 - 03/14/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yep didn't bruise up haha had me going though it is a antillarum but these are cyans i think http://imgur.com/a/2aZDe
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: PsillyAsCanBe]
#23004935 - 03/14/16 03:55 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think you are starting to work out how to distinguish them. Copelandia cyanescens will stain blue on the stem. It won't have a shiny plastic look to the cap. It's cap will look more porous with bluing evident on the cap as well. The stems will look different too. So remove those ones with the stems that look straight with no bluing and a more rounded looking cap that is shiny.
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: PsillyAsCanBe]
#23004954 - 03/14/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't see any non-Panaeolus/(possible)Copelandia, but in the Tupperware they are piked on top of each other and I can't see every single mushroom, therefor it would be irresponsible of me to assume they are all thQuote:
PsillyAsCanBe said: Yep didn't bruise up haha had me going though it is a antillarum but these are cyans i think http://imgur.com/a/2aZDe
I took a quick glance and you've certainly got some Copelandia mixed in with the P. antillarum. The main things to keep an eye out for are white/pale or orange/rust colored gills.
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: MidnightCity]
#23004999 - 03/14/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for having another look! yeah I think im starting to see now(first day foraging for these), there is mostly Panaeolus Cyanescens though yea? and eating Antillarums is okay isn't it? so nothing there that will hurt me ? thanks again
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Re: Biggest Panaeolus Cyanescens EVER?????? Please ID this BADBOY [Re: PsillyAsCanBe]
#23005923 - 03/14/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everything i've read about p antillarums claims that they are edible, just not commonly eaten.
Just eat the ones that bruise blue. I've also read that they are on average much more potent fresh rather than dry. 5 grams to 10 grams should be fine. Get ready for an adventure if you take 10
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