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OhMrJohnson
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Shroomism]
#22986514 - 03/08/16 05:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it easier/cheaper to make or something? Why would they bother making the real deal if 1P is just as good I wonder
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22986520 - 03/08/16 05:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I understand it's not the same.
Every detailed report I've heard says it's more pastels and whatnot instead of that bright energy that fades to darkness and shadow.
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22986526 - 03/08/16 05:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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OhMrJohnson said: Is it easier/cheaper to make or something? Why would they bother making the real deal if 1P is just as good I wonder
cuz it's legal so they can get away with it
and yeah i think tmj said later on it was prolly just a bummer trip he had
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
#22986529 - 03/08/16 05:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ServantOfBaphomet said: I understand it's not the same.
Every detailed report I've heard says it's more pastels and whatnot instead of that bright energy that fades to darkness and shadow.
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: ServantOfBaphomet] 1
#22986533 - 03/08/16 05:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ServantOfBaphomet said: I understand it's not the same.
Every detailed report I've heard says it's more pastels and whatnot instead of that bright energy that fades to darkness and shadow.
How is it not the same when it's literally a prodrug to LSD?
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Shroomism] 2
#22986537 - 03/08/16 05:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah idk what servant is saying but every report i've read people said it's the same
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Shroomism]
#22986539 - 03/08/16 05:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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When you think about it even LSD trips themselves are never exactly the same, mine aren't at least, every trip is unique and has its own character based on how I was feeling that night before I took it
It's all in the eye of the beholder
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Sheekle]
#22986547 - 03/08/16 05:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: yeah idk what servant is saying but every report i've read people said it's the same
It's literally the exact same. I was surprised.
I would be GLAD to be the market flooded with 1P trying to play as LSD as opposed to all this NBOMe bullshit
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Shroomism]
#22986549 - 03/08/16 05:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: I heard for some reason 1P doesn't show up on an Elrich test
Also, TMJ said it's nowhere near as special as L so I hope this isn't the case
I dunno man. I've eaten acid hundreds and hundreds of times. I've eaten 1P-LSD once.. but I couldn't tell any difference. If you had handed it to me and told me it was LSD, I would have believed you. For all intents and purposes it does the exact same fucking thing Maybe it's not as "special" just because it's easier to source? lol
In that case, a bunch of the people on here, who love acid, but find it hard to come across should get on the clearnet and buy 1p-Lsd. Shroomism knows what he's talking about and says 1p-lsd and our magical lsd are basically the same thing! And its legal!! Get buying!
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Shroomism]
#22986571 - 03/08/16 05:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can vouch
It's really, REALLY similar...if not the same
It's that close
Like shroomism said, if someone had passed off some 1P to me as LSD, I wouldn't have been able to distinguish a difference enough to know
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Nifflerz]
#22986574 - 03/08/16 05:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://detect-kit.com/is-1p-lsd-a-prodrug-to-lsd/
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1P-LSD is a molecule from the same family as LSD. It gets its name from the propionyl group that is bound to the nitrogen of the polycyclic indole group of LSD. 1P-LSD is considered homologous to ALD-52; the latter contains an acetyl group bound to CH3-CO-R instead of the propionyl group. The structure of 1P-LSD contains a polycylic group, and it has a bicyclic hexahydroindole that is bound to a bicyclic quinoline group.
1P-LSD acts as a partial agonist to 5-HT2A. The psychedelic effects of the molecule are believed to come from 1P-LSD’s effects with the 5-HT2A receptors. However, how this results in a psychedelic experience is still not clear. It has been theorized around the internet that 1P-LSD may be a prodrug to LSD. This theory has been judged likely untrue, because of a few factors. It has both a shorter duration, subtly distinct subjective effects and an extremely close potency which are three things which are rarely associated with a prodrug in regards to the drug it’s compared to.
We asked David E Nichols a few questions regarding this subject. Dr Nichols is the founding president of the Heffter Research Institute, a non-profit that researches medical uses for of psychedelic hallucinogens. He has been working in the psychoactive field since 1969, and was involved in the first human trials for MDMA under Alexander Shulgin.
Is 1P-LSD a prodrug to LSD?
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It is a prodrug, and is hydrolyzed in the body to LSD. A publication just came out in Drug Testing and Analysis.
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Jbar1288] 2
#22986575 - 03/08/16 05:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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getting a small amount of this (25 tabs) coming soon stoked hopefully will cover me till I find a new cid connect
I miss tripping... haven't had a real solid trip since april
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Ezuma]
#22986585 - 03/08/16 06:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Weird this thread got revived, I was just talking in the EMC today about possibly picking some Al-Lad up. There is a site I found that has a tester set of AL-LAD, 1p and ETH-LAD all together. Reading through some reviews to ensure the site is legit, but should be dabbling in these soon. If they are very similar to LSD as they say, I'mma buy a whole bunch for the summer.
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Shroomism]
#22986595 - 03/08/16 06:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: yeah idk what servant is saying but every report i've read people said it's the same
It's literally the exact same. I was surprised.
I would be GLAD to be the market flooded with 1P trying to play as LSD as opposed to all this NBOMe bullshit
The market has been flooding with real LSD this past year believe it or not. The potency has been going up, the price has been going down, and the availability is increasing greatly.
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Shroomism] 1
#22986608 - 03/08/16 06:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it was posted as a news story on here or a post, but anyway it was a link to the article where they were saying it for sure is a pro-drug. What was up for debate was the actual method of action / which enzyme or whatever was responsible for popping the propionyl group off leaving LSD.
Either way I'm still ecstatic about the recent boom in novel lysergimides...almost feels like were on the verge of a new psychedelic revolution.
Like sheekle mentioned even actual LSD is starting to flood in. To quote someone from last week...'something wonderful is happening'.
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Aaradin] 1
#22986626 - 03/08/16 06:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Ezuma]
#22986654 - 03/08/16 06:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just posting here to add to the list of people who love 1p lsd, and someone mentioned bill oriley (tmj) has he been back since his ban expired
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: stuckinwonderland]
#22986660 - 03/08/16 06:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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tmj is such a backstabber. everyone used to be mean to him in chatterbox and i would white knight for him, then one day after a long break from the shroomery he came back an started biting the hand that feeds
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Sheekle]
#22986705 - 03/08/16 06:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ehh i get that but i really always liked the dude, i cant say i havent acted like a douche on here and regretted it he may do the same, i remember i was acting like a dick to zombie but regretted it not long ago.
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Re: I predict 1P-LSD to flood the LSD market this summer! And you wont even notice... [Re: Sheekle]
#22986714 - 03/08/16 06:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I've been getting some pretty potent tabs lately. A lot better than what I'm used to.
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