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 choclate being poisonous to dogs.. 
#22954961 - 02/28/16 12:01 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can a person get in trouble for giving their own dog choclate as a treat or such a similar scenario lije if they do it all the time intentionally infront of people...i know its messed up question I'mjust curious
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 Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: pizzeria]
#22954968 - 02/28/16 12:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Depends on the chocolate.. for instance, white chocolate has no dog poison in it. Milk chocolate has only low amounts. Dark chocolate is what you need to worry more about.
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: Shins]
#22954974 - 02/28/16 12:05 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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if a person is feeding dark chocolate to their dog in public can they be reprimanded
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: pizzeria]
#22954975 - 02/28/16 12:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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i would say so.....thats abuse to the dog
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: pizzeria]
#22954986 - 02/28/16 12:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are lots of things dogs shouldn't be fed for different reasons.
Chocolate has theobromine in it which dogs are sensitive to, for us it's nothing.
Also caffeine isn't good for them and there is a marginal amount of caffeine in it.
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: pizzeria]
#22954987 - 02/28/16 12:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes, this can and should be considered animal abuse
at best, feeding your dog chocolate would constitut neglect: improper diet/nutrition leading to harm
but i think the case could be easily made for intentional cruelty, what with knowingly giving what amounts to poison to an animal
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: Shins] 2
#22954995 - 02/28/16 12:15 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Depends on the chocolate.. for instance, white chocolate has no dog poison in it. Milk chocolate has only low amounts. Dark chocolate is what you need to worry more about.
Basically this. I had a pitbull that ate a 1/2in thich 4x3 bar of chocolate and she was fine. Worried us a bit but she was totally fine.
I wouldn't do it frequently though. There's a reason they say dogs shouldn't have people food. It's cuz people are dumb and we probably shouldn't be eating half the shit we do, much less them. Honestly think "in public" you could be reprimanded for any of it, but chocolate has a worse wrap.
Grapes, onions, garlic... alot of even the good shit we eat can be bad for dogs. You're alot better off either carrying some actual dog treats with you or maybe some jerky.
http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/ss/slideshow-foods-your-dog-should-never-eat
^ obviously the list is exaggerated... but it's still not a good idea to give your dogs a lot of food they shouldn't have. My parents have 2 lab mixes that have kidney and liver problems as well as being covered in fatty tumors from a lifetime of being given too many table scraps. It's very sad.
If you really love your dog you'll feed it right. One piece of chocolate isn't gonna kill them but don't make it a daily habit.
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#22954998 - 02/28/16 12:15 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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bakers chocolate and dark chocolate are toxic. they have to eat quite a bit depending on the size of the dog but yes it can make them very ill and die.
Also dont give them chewing gum. Xylotol is toxic.
Also do not give them onions, raisins, plums, garlic. Giving a dog too much garlic and onion will kill red blood cells.
and of course antifreeze. no shit.
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#22955007 - 02/28/16 12:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes, this can and should be considered animal abuse
at best, feeding your dog chocolate would constitut neglect: improper diet/nutrition leading to harm
but i think the case could be easily made for intentional cruelty, what with knowingly giving what amounts to poison to an animal
know what i think is cruel? making them morbidly obese. People have total control over what goes into their dogs mouths. Its disgusting people make them so fat they cant walk or squat to go to the bathroom. Lazy irresponsible fucks should be charged with animal abuse. Just like parents who have fat children.
Unless they are hypothyroid (most arent), still that can be treated with medication.
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#22955015 - 02/28/16 12:25 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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yea, that list has some good information--but no raw meat fish or eggs? no fat? no bones?--they do realize that dogs are carnivores right?
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#22955035 - 02/28/16 12:37 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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yea, that list has some good information--but no raw meat fish or eggs? no fat? no bones?--they do realize that dogs are carnivores right?
Most domestic dogs don't have the enzymes and antibodies to properly digest raw meats unless they are raised on a raw meat diet.
It probably wouldn't kill them or anything but might make them quite sick of all they are used to is manufactured dog food.
I think the worry with bones is them breaking off slivers. We used to give my dog bones, but would keep an eye on him while he was chewing on it and remove it if he started to crack it.
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I had German shepards when I was younger and gave them chocolate quite frequently before I knew it was bad for dogs didn't seem to bother them any. I think it would takr quite a large amount to make a bigger dog sick. No idea about smaller dogs. I give my dog, a great pyrenees, Hershey kisses or something small ever so often when I drop it on the floor or something by accident.
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my grandpas dog got into some gummie bears. it was the first time he had been exposed to sugar. he was shaking, throwing up and had a soft stool. there is probably a reason why chocolate is not recommended for dogs.
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#22955069 - 02/28/16 12:52 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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yea, that list has some good information--but no raw meat fish or eggs? no fat? no bones?--they do realize that dogs are carnivores right?
Raw fish such as salmon can have parasites which can kill dogs, my dog got into some fishing scraps awhile back and almost didn't make it. She couldn't get up or walk and was shitting all over herself, thanks thankfully she pulled through though 
I knew two dogs that atr a whole batch of ganja food with chocolate, they could barely walk for at least a week but they made it through alright.
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yea, that list has some good information--but no raw meat fish or eggs? no fat? no bones?--they do realize that dogs are carnivores right?
Most domestic dogs don't have the enzymes and antibodies to properly digest raw meats unless they are raised on a raw meat diet.
It probably wouldn't kill them or anything but might make them quite sick of all they are used to is manufactured dog food.
I think the worry with bones is them breaking off slivers. We used to give my dog bones, but would keep an eye on him while he was chewing on it and remove it if he started to crack it.
your correct in that dogs not raised on a raw meat diet can lack the proper enzymes to digest raw meat--i just thought it rediculous that they would include these on a list of foods that are legitimately toxic to dogs
as for bones, my understanding has always been that cooked bones--particularly from poultry--are the ones that pose a choking hazard--but once again, i don't see this as reason to list bones as a 'never' food--heck, pretty much every dog toy on the market is listed as a possible choking hazard and recommends supervision when being used
i find that too many people nowadays forget that dogs are animals, not human infants--i was once scolded at a dog park for letting my dog chew on a wooden stick--another time, a person was shocked that i didn't cook some chicken before giving it to my pup
i love my dog, and want her to have the best life possible--part of that comes from taking care of her health, another part comes from just letting her be a dog now and then and go roll in some dead stuff
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: musiclover420]
#22955110 - 02/28/16 01:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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yea, that list has some good information--but no raw meat fish or eggs? no fat? no bones?--they do realize that dogs are carnivores right?
Raw fish such as salmon can have parasites which can kill dogs, my dog got into some fishing scraps awhile back and almost didn't make it. She couldn't get up or walk and was shitting all over herself, thanks thankfully she pulled through though
i'm glad your dog pulled through--my pup got into moldy meat once (i suspect) and i'll never forget the experience of riding out her symptoms together
disease will always be a part of life--sometimes preventative measures are most effective--other times, curative measures are most appropriate--salmon poisoning disease is definitely a risk, and one should be aware of this should they decide to feed their dog raw fish--heck, a dog owner should be able to recognize signs of parasitic infection regardless of whether their dog eats raw meat or not (though especially if it does)--but i would consider the preventative measures (no raw fish) to be more limiting than the curative measure (a round of antibiotics and dewormer), especially when weighed with the risk of infection, but this is based on my lifestyle and relationship with my dog, and something i feel everyone has to weigh the positives and negatives out for themselves
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: sprinkles]
#22955116 - 02/28/16 01:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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"People have total control over what goes into their dogs mouths."
Aaahah not true at all. I take it you're not a dog owner.
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: DTCharlieB]
#22955122 - 02/28/16 01:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had German shepards when I was younger and gave them chocolate quite frequently before I knew it was bad for dogs didn't seem to bother them any. I think it would takr quite a large amount to make a bigger dog sick. No idea about smaller dogs. I give my dog, a great pyrenees, Hershey kisses or something small ever so often when I drop it on the floor or something by accident.
Milk chocolate is basically harmless. Don't get me wrong, it's not "good" but really It takes large amounts of high %cocoa to have really bad effects on a dog
Tonnes of people blow the danger of chocolate out of proportion
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#22955129 - 02/28/16 01:22 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ulfrick said:
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shivas.wisdom said:
yea, that list has some good information--but no raw meat fish or eggs? no fat? no bones?--they do realize that dogs are carnivores right?
Most domestic dogs don't have the enzymes and antibodies to properly digest raw meats unless they are raised on a raw meat diet.
It probably wouldn't kill them or anything but might make them quite sick of all they are used to is manufactured dog food.
I think the worry with bones is them breaking off slivers. We used to give my dog bones, but would keep an eye on him while he was chewing on it and remove it if he started to crack it.
your correct in that dogs not raised on a raw meat diet can lack the proper enzymes to digest raw meat--i just thought it rediculous that they would include these on a list of foods that are legitimately toxic to dogs
as for bones, my understanding has always been that cooked bones--particularly from poultry--are the ones that pose a choking hazard--but once again, i don't see this as reason to list bones as a 'never' food--heck, pretty much every dog toy on the market is listed as a possible choking hazard and recommends supervision when being used
i find that too many people nowadays forget that dogs are animals, not human infants--i was once scolded at a dog park for letting my dog chew on a wooden stick--another time, a person was shocked that i didn't cook some chicken before giving it to my pup
i love my dog, and want her to have the best life possible--part of that comes from taking care of her health, another part comes from just letting her be a dog now and then and go roll in some dead stuff
Yeah I hate condescending dog owners.
There's one in my building with a corgie that he's disceplined so much it basically just follows him around like it has a completely empty soul, the dog has absolutely no personality. He judges me because I like to let me dog be a dog. My dog is full of energy, spunk, and curiosity. He seems to think that since my dog isn't a soulless ghost 100% dosile that I am a bad dog owner or something.
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Re: choclate being poisonous to dogs.. [Re: Shins]
#22955147 - 02/28/16 01:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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some of my favourite times are where i am hanging out with a large group of friends out in the woods or by a lake somewhere--most of my friends have a dog, sometimes two, so we get to watch all of our dogs form a pack and just run around being dogs--when the dogs outnumber the humans, it is now officially a dog party
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