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OfflineOmegaRed
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Does this casing method sound reasonable?
    #2294465 - 02/02/04 02:58 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I have done several grows, but this is to be my first attempt at casing. Does this method sound reasonable... it is pasted together from several different teks. Bottom casing layer will simply be moistened perlite (should I use coir or verm or both or nothing at all?). The substrate being cased is popcorn so that comes next. Then the top will either be straight coir or verm if I can put my hands on some. Anyone got any comments on this?


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Re: Does this casing method sound reasonable? [Re: OmegaRed]
    #2296940 - 02/03/04 10:03 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Perlite on the bottom of your casing will only invite contams. I would just put the substrate on the bottom. If you would like a bottom layer then I would suggest using some verm, to help with moisture.

Hope any of this helps.


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Re: Does this casing method sound reasonable? [Re: OmegaRed]
    #2296974 - 02/03/04 10:17 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Yah, definately don't put perlite in your fruiting container. If you feel it is necessary to have something on the bottom then go with verm, but I've had much success without puttig anything on the bottom.

If you do use coir to case, use it 60/40 with verm and make sure it stays moist as coir dries out easily.

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Re: Does this casing method sound reasonable? [Re: OmegaRed]
    #2296975 - 02/03/04 10:17 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Perlite on the bottom is "all the latest rage" but I can't seem to get enough info on it to be comfortable trying. Be sure that anything you "half-ass" will end up in your garbage.

That said afoaf uses a base layer of moist verm, substrate layer, then a top casing of straight Coir.

Seems to work fine.


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Re: Does this casing method sound reasonable? [Re: OmegaRed]
    #2297007 - 02/03/04 10:29 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Perlite is no more or less sterile than verm. It makes a perfectly *fine* bottom casing layer. In fact, I tend to find that it holds water better than verm does.


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Re: Does this casing method sound reasonable? [Re: mobiusrunner]
    #2297016 - 02/03/04 10:33 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

what is the method of casing when you only have verm and perlite and want the optimum relsults with popcorn


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Re: Does this casing method sound reasonable? [Re: austin_72283]
    #2297053 - 02/03/04 10:52 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

austin - what you want to do is to get the perlite *really* wet (soup like) and nuke it for 5 minutes in the microwave.

Let it cool.

Then just go out and get Jiffy Mix from *any* garden center. Trust me, everyone has it. It is the same stuff as the 60/40 mix people are always talking about here, except it's premade, and already has the pH sorted out too. Just plop some of it in a bowl, get it good and soupy and nuke for 5 minutes.

Get some mini-loaf pans from the grocery store, punch some holes in the bottom (not too big, just enough for excess water to drain) and put down a 1/4 - 1/2 inch of the perlite. Then your substrate, and then a 1/2 inch of the Jiffy Mix. Cover it up and stick it in your incubator for 4-5 days, then fruit. (patch if the mycelium starts to look uneven)


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