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Offlinexbloodwhipx

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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: topdog82]
    #22936641 - 02/23/16 09:19 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

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topdog82 said:
meditation did wonders for my DP. But weed is enemy #1. Has your DP improved since posting this two years ago? If so how much?

Also, I just wanna say I can relate. I have had DP for years and its like a dark cartoon. Fucking sucks. You will get through it



A dark cartoon sounds like you also have derealization. I luckily only get that during anxiety attacks. I cant imagine that 24/7, its annoying asf.

People who have never had this disorder just cant understand why it sucks so bad. The sufferers of DP/DR are alone in this fight :sad:


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OfflineJustForToday
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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22936643 - 02/23/16 09:20 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

Kind of funny. I'm just recalling to myself. I smoked some weed once. Had a bad trip then went to a psych ward. After I got out I was in super dp mood for a whole year. I didn't use anymore that whole year. I felt better eventually. Then later on is when my lucid dreams started. But that's mainly because I was taking sedative prescription meds. Dreams felt real and I could control them. Almost like that movie inception. Fun times I remember but I also remember having nightmares too. The good the bad and the ugly..


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Offline2141zach
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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: JustForToday]
    #22936669 - 02/23/16 09:28 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

I have yet to have a lucid dream but I want one, I could probably induce sleep paralysis but I would have to take naps during the day and that would throw my sleep cycle off. I just want a way to get rid of this disorder forever so I dont have to worry about it and I can do psychs again lol. The good thing is I dont really feel alone anymore. But ya DP makes you feel absolutely alone no one can really understand the fucking hell you live in until they experience it.


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Offlinexbloodwhipx

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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: 2141zach]
    #22936719 - 02/23/16 09:47 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

I know this probably sucks to think about, but I personally would never use psychs again, or atleast not for a long time (5+ years) if I got over this disorder. It would suck to reinduce it. I'll personally also probably never smoke weed again, and if I do its only going to be some low THC high CBD strain I grew myself.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22936729 - 02/23/16 09:50 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

and if you happen to get sleep paralysis, what i used to do is imagine a rope coming out of my body and "climb out" of myself. It works great and eventually you can get out into a lucid dream with absolutely no effort.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22936733 - 02/23/16 09:52 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

Ya I think your right its just so hard for me to avoid psychs including weed.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22936735 - 02/23/16 09:53 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

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xbloodwhipx said:
and if you happen to get sleep paralysis, what i used to do is imagine a rope coming out of my body and "climb out" of myself. It works great and eventually you can get out into a lucid dream with absolutely no effort.




Cool I'll try to remember this when it happens of course easier said then done. I have heard of this technique before its called astral projections right?


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InvisibleMoonshoe
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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: 2141zach]
    #22936814 - 02/23/16 10:16 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

When you are in sleep paralysis you are primed for an out of body experience / astral projection.

The method he described using a rope is great. You can also imagine, visualize and intend floating up out of your body like a balloon, rolling sideways out of your body or even crawling out of your body from the bottom or the feet.

Bloodwhip- have you tried nootropics?

I think a nootropic stack like noopept + alpha Gpc choline could potentially really help dp/dr.

I would think exercise, yoga, meditation, fresh air, sunshine, and brain games like lumosity could all potentially help, as well as vegetable gardening , Caring for a pet, keeping a journal, taking up a hobby and therapy /counselling would likely help a lot.


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Offlinexbloodwhipx

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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: 2141zach]
    #22936837 - 02/23/16 10:25 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

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Moonshoe said:
When you are in sleep paralysis you are primed for an out of body experience / astral projection.

The method he described using a rope is great. You can also imagine, visualize and intend floating up out of your body like a balloon, rolling sideways out of your body or even crawling out of your body from the bottom or the feet.

Bloodwhip- have you tried nootropics?

I think a nootropic stack like noopept + alpha Gpc choline could potentially really help dp/dr.

I would think exercise, yoga, meditation, fresh air, sunshine, and brain games like lumosity could all potentially help, as well as vegetable gardening , Caring for a pet, keeping a journal, taking up a hobby and therapy /counselling would likely help a lot.




I've heard of nootropics but never tried them. Certainly been interested for awhile in them though.

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2141zach said:
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xbloodwhipx said:
and if you happen to get sleep paralysis, what i used to do is imagine a rope coming out of my body and "climb out" of myself. It works great and eventually you can get out into a lucid dream with absolutely no effort.




Cool I'll try to remember this when it happens of course easier said then done. I have heard of this technique before its called astral projections right?




Yeah it can be difficult but its really worth a try because it worked most of the time once i got it down.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22936856 - 02/23/16 10:31 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Moonshoe said:
When you are in sleep paralysis you are primed for an out of body experience / astral projection.

The method he described using a rope is great. You can also imagine, visualize and intend floating up out of your body like a balloon, rolling sideways out of your body or even crawling out of your body from the bottom or the feet.

Bloodwhip- have you tried nootropics?

I think a nootropic stack like noopept + alpha Gpc choline could potentially really help dp/dr.

I would think exercise, yoga, meditation, fresh air, sunshine, and brain games like lumosity could all potentially help, as well as vegetable gardening , Caring for a pet, keeping a journal, taking up a hobby and therapy /counselling would likely help a lot.




I am excited to start my garden this year think it will be helpful for me. I have potatoes growing indoor the martian style just window light growing great. Its too cold to put them out yet but in the next couple days it should be good. Also cbd oil seemed to help me if you consider it a nootropic or not idk. Mindfulness is very helpful. I started to break through one morning i was looking out the window and became mindful of something then things got worse but I think I was making progress I snapped out of it, gives me hope.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: 2141zach]
    #22936863 - 02/23/16 10:35 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

ya a dog would def help. But healthy habits along with patience are the key


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: TheShroomingAtheis]
    #22936885 - 02/23/16 10:43 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

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TheShroomingAtheis said:
Yeah I always thought the biggest part of the weed high was depersonalization and now that I don't get it even after smoking weed it feels so lame. I came to enjoy dp and it magically went away. Don't drink coffee(major trigger). First time I smoked weed i got it so badly i felt like had completely disconnected from myself and was in a dream. Got away for the last month though. Hang in there!




Drinking coffee makes you feel depersonalized? :confused:

Please elaborate?


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: Alexestalex]
    #22936895 - 02/23/16 10:46 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

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Alexestalex said:
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TheShroomingAtheis said:
Yeah I always thought the biggest part of the weed high was depersonalization and now that I don't get it even after smoking weed it feels so lame. I came to enjoy dp and it magically went away. Don't drink coffee(major trigger). First time I smoked weed i got it so badly i felt like had completely disconnected from myself and was in a dream. Got away for the last month though. Hang in there!




Drinking coffee makes you feel depersonalized? :confused:

Please elaborate?




overload of caffeine can trigger anxiety in some people and anxiety makes DP feel worse.

or atleast thats my experience everytime i drink caffienated coffee.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22936919 - 02/23/16 10:53 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

A little coffee helps me.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: 2141zach] * 1
    #22936933 - 02/23/16 11:00 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

coffee made my DP worse. I would stick to tea, its much milder

my opinion^


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: topdog82]
    #22936980 - 02/23/16 11:11 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

hey man use B complex for ocd from rite aid cvs, walgreens.  the depersonalization is similar to a schizophrenia i have called Dissociative Identity schizophrenia disorder


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The drugs i use: Day: Clozaril 400mg, Zyprexa, 15mg, Seroquel 20mg, Risperdal 6mg, Invega 9mg The all in One Curved Rounded Pillar, Klonopin 1mg, Truvada The now mushroomm, Tivicay the Daydreams mushroom, Gabapentin 600mg Night: Lithium 300mg, Ativan 3mg, 5Htp, Trazodone 100mg, Hydroxyzine 2 at sleep time.
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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: topdog82]
    #22936981 - 02/23/16 11:12 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

I guess people with DP have a strong synergy between there cannabinoid receptors and opiate receptors and coffee helps separate them. Source http://thesubjectsupposedtoknow.us/the-neuroscience-of-depersonalization/ interesting article. Obviously too much caffeine is bad and doesn't hurt to avoid it.

"Maybe it’s the endorphins. Or the dynorphin. Salvinorin A is about as depersonalizing a thing as there is, and it’s a kappa agonist. Stress, pain, the amygdala, endogenous opioids. It’s a consistent story. Except for norepinephrine.

On the one hand, reducing norepinephrine-induced hyper-arousal is part of the appeal of opiates. CB1 receptors and mu opioid receptors are found in overlapping places, and there’s a deep convergence between the effects of cannabinoids and opioids.  Interestingly, caffeine may block cannabinoid-opioid synergy:"


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: Oceanshore23Forest]
    #22936999 - 02/23/16 11:16 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

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Oceanshore said:
hey man use B complex for ocd from rite aid cvs, walgreens.  the depersonalization is similar to a schizophrenia i have called Dissociative Identity schizophrenia disorder




Thats kinda misleading.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: 2141zach]
    #22937018 - 02/23/16 11:22 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

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2141zach said:
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Oceanshore said:
hey man use B complex for ocd from rite aid cvs, walgreens.  the depersonalization is similar to a schizophrenia i have called Dissociative Identity schizophrenia disorder




Thats kinda misleading.



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2141zach said:
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Oceanshore said:
hey man use B complex for ocd from rite aid cvs, walgreens.  the depersonalization is similar to a schizophrenia i have called Dissociative Identity schizophrenia disorder




Thats kinda misleading.



:crankey:  i dont know anything about it except for my self is different


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Jenny, jehny, sean, taliesen, taylor
I was the Head honcho And...... i still am
Jonas is everready
matthew is a psychiatrist
Marcus is a therapist
Arthur has Appeared .....
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1Gz8gmpPZTDdbWY7sNa3D5PGER3mxvp2
The drugs i use: Day: Clozaril 400mg, Zyprexa, 15mg, Seroquel 20mg, Risperdal 6mg, Invega 9mg The all in One Curved Rounded Pillar, Klonopin 1mg, Truvada The now mushroomm, Tivicay the Daydreams mushroom, Gabapentin 600mg Night: Lithium 300mg, Ativan 3mg, 5Htp, Trazodone 100mg, Hydroxyzine 2 at sleep time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWWopjG9URo&nohtml5=False


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Offlinexbloodwhipx

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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: Oceanshore23Forest]
    #22937037 - 02/23/16 11:27 AM (8 years, 1 day ago)

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Oceanshore said:
hey man use B complex for ocd from rite aid cvs, walgreens.  the depersonalization is similar to a schizophrenia i have called Dissociative Identity schizophrenia disorder



Thats nothing like DP man :lol:


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