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PaulyAnna



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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: PaulyAnna]
#22906215 - 02/15/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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The fact that we cannot know what death is until it occurs should not keep us from continually exploring it. One of the values of reflecting on death is that it allows us to work with the edge of our fears. It keeps us moving along with life so that we do not get stuck. No matter how knowledgeable we feel about death, there is always more to learn. We think we have journeyed as far as the subject can take us and then suddenly, through tragedy or illness, we discover we have been held in check by our fear. We begin to understand that death will never let us rest; there is always more to learn.
Rodney Smith, Lessons from the Dying
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: sprinkles]
#22908763 - 02/15/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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sprinkles said: America used to be about family Christian values. Thanks to feminists Cultural Marxism, they do not exist anymore. -sprinkles
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"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. Be yourself; everyone else is already taken There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about. To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all. A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world. The only difference between the saint and the sinner is that every saint has a past, and every sinner has a future. I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best. Women are made to be loved, not understood. To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance." -Oscar Wilde
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On the stoic difference...
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The difference here between the Epicurean and our own school is this: our wise man feels his troubles but overcomes them, while their wise man does not even feel them. We share with them the belief that the wise man is content with himself. Nevertheless, self-sufficient though he is, he still desires a friend, a neighbour, a companion. Notice how self-contented he is: on occasion such a man is content with a mere partial self – if he loses a hand as a result of war or disease, or has one of his eyes, or even both, put out in an accident, he will be satisfied with what remains of himself and be no less pleased with his body now that it is maimed and incomplete than he was when it was whole. But while he does not hanker after what he has lost, he does prefer not to lose them. And this is what we mean when we say the wise man is self-content; he is so in the sense that he is able to do without friends, not that he desires to do without them. When I speak of his being ‘able’ to do this, what I am saying in fact amounts to this: he bears the loss of a friend with equanimity.
Seneca, Letters
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Kurt]
#22918223 - 02/18/16 03:29 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I like that Kurt. I usually can't follow your posts.
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PaulyAnna



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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#22918262 - 02/18/16 03:57 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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To move through fear we need to convince ourselves that it is worth doing. Strategies like evasion and denial never work for very long and create more suffering than we imagine. Opening to the unknown fear cannot be any worse than what we go through to protect ourselves from it. Reality just keeps coming at us until our resistances are dropped, and we have no choice but to surrender to our worst-case scenario. Most people would rather stay in the fires of a known hell than risk shattering their world view and leap into the fireman's net.
Rodney Smith, Lessons from the Dying
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: PaulyAnna]
#22920432 - 02/18/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Tears for the protector? He had quite an interesting theory he was developing about how all tears, at bottom, have to do with protection. We cry at birth because we come naked into this world and we need protection. We cry for those we love who were desperate for protection and didn't get it in time. We cry with gratitude for those historic souls who have protected us at critical moments, with great risk to themselves. We cry for those who are voluntarily heading off into the valley of the shadow of death in order to protect us and who will need protection themselves as they do so. We cry for those who needed protection so very much and, with it or without it, have fought the good fight against great odds. All tears had to do with protection. No tears have to do with anything else." --Tom Wolfe, from I Am Charlotte Simmons
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
#22921434 - 02/18/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I rather like this one I seen in someone's page. Idk who it's by I'll have to look that up.
The minstrel in the gallery looked down upon the smiling faces. He met the gazes --- observed the spaces between the old men's cackle. He brewed a song of love and hatred --- oblique suggestions --- and he waited. He polarized the pumpkin-eaters --- static-humming panel-beaters --- freshly day-glow'd factory cheaters (salaried and collar-scrubbing). He titillated men-of-action --- belly warming, hands still rubbing on the parts they never mention. He pacified the nappy-suffering, infant-bleating one-line jokers --- T.V. documentary makers (overfed and undertakers). Sunday paper backgammon players --- family-scarred and women-haters. Then he called the band down to the stage and he looked at all the friends he'd made.
The minstrel in the gallery looked down on the rabbit-run. And threw away his looking-glass - saw his face in everyone.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Mental Taco]
#22922653 - 02/19/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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"[... the] Scientific Method (SM) [is] the alleged source of the certitude of those I call the New Idolators. SM is a mixture of SD (sense data: usually aided by instruments to refine the senses) with the old Greek PR [pure reason]. Unfortunately, while SM is powerfully effective, and seems to most of us the best method yet devised by mankind, it is made up of two elements which we have already seen are fallible. [...] Again, two fallibilities do not add up to one infallibility. Scientific generalizations which have lasted a long time have high probability, perhaps the highest probability of any generalizations, but it is only Idolatry which claims none of them will ever again have to be revised or rejected. Too many have been revised or rejected in this century alone." --Robert Anton Wilson, The New Inquisition
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Mental Taco]
#22922788 - 02/19/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mental Taco said: I rather like this one I seen in someone's page. Idk who it's by I'll have to look that up.
The minstrel in the gallery looked down upon the smiling faces. He met the gazes --- observed the spaces between the old men's cackle. He brewed a song of love and hatred --- oblique suggestions --- and he waited. He polarized the pumpkin-eaters --- static-humming panel-beaters --- freshly day-glow'd factory cheaters (salaried and collar-scrubbing). He titillated men-of-action --- belly warming, hands still rubbing on the parts they never mention. He pacified the nappy-suffering, infant-bleating one-line jokers --- T.V. documentary makers (overfed and undertakers). Sunday paper backgammon players --- family-scarred and women-haters. Then he called the band down to the stage and he looked at all the friends he'd made.
The minstrel in the gallery looked down on the rabbit-run. And threw away his looking-glass - saw his face in everyone.
That's me. The Minstrel in the Gallery . I have it in my profile. It was written by Jethro Tull
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#22924649 - 02/19/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ahhh that's right Jethro Tull I think I new that somewhere along the line.
Good stuff Jethro Tull, I like them as much aso I can for a band that jams with a piccolo.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Mental Taco]
#22925468 - 02/20/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lot's of great lyrics. Thick as a Brick and all that.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#22926221 - 02/20/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Larval interpersonal communication is slow, repetitious and static. Caterpillar conversations. Fetal gossip. What is there for terrestrial forms to say to one another? 'How's the weather? Where's the food? Attack the enemy! Shall we breed? How are the kids? Who is in charge? Is this immoral, illegal or dangerous?'" --Timothy Leary
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
#22927579 - 02/20/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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and why I won't miss this place much.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#22927749 - 02/20/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ha!
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum] 1
#22930892 - 02/21/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just about anything by Aldous Huxley rings true to me. “Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” ― Aldous Huxley, Complete Essays 2, 1926-29
“You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you mad.” ― Aldous Huxley
“But I don't want comfort. I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin.” ― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
“Maybe this world is another planet’s hell.” ― Aldous Huxley
“The more powerful and original a mind, the more it will incline towards the religion of solitude.” ― Aldous Huxley
“Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand.”
“I want to know what passion is. I want to feel something strongly.” ― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
“If one's different, one's bound to be lonely.” ― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
“I wanted to change the world. But I have found that the only thing one can be sure of changing is oneself.” ― Aldous Huxley, Point Counter Point
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Mental Taco]
#22931102 - 02/21/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Mental Taco]
#22931196 - 02/21/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mental Taco said: “Maybe this world is another planet’s hell.” ― Aldous Huxley
Really like that one. It's sth I'm thinking of as well.
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PaulyAnna



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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Hindi420]
#22932302 - 02/22/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fear is found whenever we hold ourselves back from a full participation in life. The greater the fear, the more the resistance. Once we overcome our resistance and step through fear, however, we find ourselves immersed in the unknown. The more fear a situation contains, the greater potential for wisdom. Growth occurs when we pass through our fear. In moving through death, our fear transforms into an appreciation of the process itself. The heart moves into an affection for all things. In resistance, the heart is a fortress; the walls come up, and we lose our ability to become intimate. In affection, the heart is like an open field; we can reach beyond our individual concerns and intimately touch another person.
Rodney Smith, Lessons from the Dying
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: PaulyAnna] 1
#22932391 - 02/22/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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He hasn't died yet. 
Check out some of the critiques of this book on Amazon if you wonder what I mean by that.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (02/22/16 02:53 AM)
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