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Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not?
    #22876600 - 02/07/16 07:20 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

Got some Ganoderma lucidum I'm pretty sure, I hear they are really healthy and have a long history of medicinal value, so should I eat them?

Also how should I cut them and store them once I do?


Ganoderma lucidum:
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Edited by italykill (02/07/16 07:21 PM)


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: italykill]
    #22877820 - 02/08/16 02:11 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

You could straight up eat them but as a whole mushroom, that would be like eating wood. Tea is probably your best bet unless you have a really heavy duty grinder.


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: Humbled]
    #22879040 - 02/08/16 01:35 PM (8 years, 16 days ago)

Nice mushrooms. I actually dreamt about finding these last night.

Cutting with a knife works for fresh. You can boil a small handful of thin slices for a few cups of tea. Discontinue if you have side effects. The sliced mushroom dries really well.

As always, you might want to acquaint yourself with the research before using the stuff.


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: Lost Geometer B]
    #22881159 - 02/08/16 10:39 PM (8 years, 16 days ago)

Some of these are damaged by insects and should not be used. Also looks more like Ganoderma curtisii, are you in the Eastern United States? G.lucidum is primarily a European species.


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22884026 - 02/09/16 05:09 PM (8 years, 15 days ago)

Florida so yes most likely it's probably G. Curtisii, which I noticed says inedible on wikipedia? Is this true?


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: italykill]
    #22884071 - 02/09/16 05:17 PM (8 years, 15 days ago)

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italykill said:
Florida so yes most likely it's probably G. Curtisii, which I noticed says inedible on wikipedia? Is this true?



All Ganoderma are inedible. Inedible isn't the same as poisonous. They are inedible because the are incredibly tough and taste terrible.


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: kunino]
    #22913179 - 02/16/16 07:04 PM (8 years, 8 days ago)

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italykill said:
Florida so yes most likely it's probably G. Curtisii, which I noticed says inedible on wikipedia? Is this true?



All Ganoderma are inedible. Inedible isn't the same as poisonous. They are inedible because the are incredibly tough and taste terrible.





Well actually I'm quite sure that G. Lucidum is edible and infact has proven medical benefits. Which is what I want if, in fact, these were G. Lucidum.


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: italykill]
    #22913244 - 02/16/16 07:18 PM (8 years, 8 days ago)

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italykill said:
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italykill said:
Florida so yes most likely it's probably G. Curtisii, which I noticed says inedible on wikipedia? Is this true?



All Ganoderma are inedible. Inedible isn't the same as poisonous. They are inedible because the are incredibly tough and taste terrible.





Well actually I'm quite sure that G. Lucidum is edible and infact has proven medical benefits. Which is what I want if, in fact, these were G. Lucidum.



Just because something has proven medicinal benefits, doesn't mean it's edible. In fact, that was part of the point I was trying to make.
Edibility is dictated by how good and suitable it is for consumption, usually based on flavour and texture, as well as absence of toxicity. That is what "inedible" means in the context of fungi (and plants); medical benefits and nutritional content have nothing to do with it.
Ganoderma of all species are not good to eat. They are incredibly tough and taste foul. They are thus inedible. But just because they are inedible, that does not mean that they are not safe to consume. It just means they they are best consumed in ways other than conventional eating, so as to avoid the problems of texture and taste.


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: kunino]
    #22914282 - 02/17/16 12:59 AM (8 years, 8 days ago)

Ganoderma are inedible, every last one of them, though some people do eat the soft white edge that appears on younger specimens. They are too tough to properly eat.

They are widely consumed in teas, powders and extracts though.


I am fairly certain that what you have here is Ganoderma curtisii, not Ganoderma lucidum, are you in the eastern United States? Ganoderma curtisii is also consumed for its medicinal properties. It is the closest species to the Chinese lingzhi (reishi)


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MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22918706 - 02/18/16 09:01 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

If you find a wild ganoderma on the east coast it's probably a curtisii? How can you properly identify it?


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: krypto2000]
    #22918841 - 02/18/16 09:53 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

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If you find a wild ganoderma on the east coast it's probably a curtisii? How can you properly identify it?




East coast Ganoderma species include G.sessile, G.curtisii, G.tsugae, G.meredithae, G.ravenelii, and G.zonatum, to name a few. G.tsugae and G.meredithae will grow on conifers, tsugae in the north, meredithae in the south. G.zonatum grows on palm trees, mostly in Florida. G.sessile is distinguished because it usually lacks a stem, under a microscope its spores appear smooth. G.curtisii typically has a stem, and is usually light in color with various shades of yellow and often with a blue hue, distinguished from G.sessile most easily by its stem and prominently speckled spores.

Ganoderma lucidum does not seem to be native to North America and does not occur in the eastern US, there appear to be small, presumably introduced enclaves of it in the West, I am waiting on more DNA data for those collections.


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MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22919131 - 02/18/16 10:54 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

By a stem are you referring to Antlers or a characteristic of the spores under microscopy? I really need to add a microscope to my toolkit. I have a wild specimen I gathered and have been growing, but I'm really unsure of what it is and unfortunately did not make note of the host : /.


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: krypto2000]
    #22919795 - 02/18/16 02:32 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

Yes the antler formation is actually a stem, commonly referred to as a stipe.

You can see the typical stem in this specimen.




Ganoderma sessile (G.resinaceum sensu North America) typically lacks this and grows directly from the tree. The one below is G.sessile growing without a stem from an old barrel. 




A specimen with a stem is called stipitate, and one without is called sessile. G.sessile was named such because it usually lacks a stem.


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22919964 - 02/18/16 03:30 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

So do the species of Ganoderma that do not have a stipe, is that due to how they grow, environmentally that is, or is it a genetic thing? In other words my culture forms antlers readily, is that any way to narrow it down, or will just about any species of ganoderma grow antlers if put into anter growing conditions (eg, 'noc up a spawn bag and come back in a couple months)?


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Re: Ganoderma lucidum, eat or not? [Re: krypto2000]
    #22920026 - 02/18/16 03:45 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

Any species aside from maybe G.applanatum can produce antlers when grown artificially, it comes down to genetics and CO2 levels. Certain species are more sensitive to CO2 and nearly always form stems in the wild, while others are less sensitive and usually just go straight to conking. Generally in amateur cultivation the CO2 levels are higher than in nature so stems are more common.


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