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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #2296524 - 02/03/04 08:03 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

quick question Snowbrdr311, from which sources do you get most of the news?


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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #2296858 - 02/03/04 11:07 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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And the Bush administration isn't trying to dominate the world




Did you read the quotes which I took directly from the PNAC's own statement of principles?


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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #2297360 - 02/03/04 02:56 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Dude, don't get upset, and that's not what it says. It's about ideals 100%, plain and simple. What I was saying is that I contrast with liberal ideals, yes, I do.. so what? Bush is conservative, if you don't like his policies or philosophies then you're not a conservative and most likely a liberal.

haha, do yourself a favor and take an American Government class or read any basic text on government for that matter, because you obviously don't understand what "conservative" means. I'll give you a hint: Bush is not a conservative. He isn't a Republican either, just for the record. He might belong to the Republican party, but he sure does not adhere to Republican standards.

Most of you here have liberal ideals and philosophies, all I was saying is i'm suprised how much I contrast from a lot of you, what's the problem? No one is allowed to disagree with you without you getting upset?

A) I'm not liberal or a Democrat B) Liberalism does not have anything to do with a war sold to the masses for a different reason than was really the motive. Explain to me how being upset that we didn't get a fair chance to debate the real reasons for this war (which I admit some were actually good) makes me a liberal- after you read that American Government text and learn what liberal and conservative actually mean though.

And the Bush administration isn't trying to dominate the world, we have dominated the world since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989, from a Military aspect anyway, which is a good thing.

No we haven't dominated the world since the fall of the Soviet Union, we have the most economic power, and we get involved in a lot shit with struggling third world countries, but we do not "dominate" the world- we're just the most poweful right now.

And yes, they are expanding the military, and have taken over two countries by pre-emptive strikes, which by the way, have been disasters in both cases.

Some of you people act like you really have an idea what kind of firepower we really have, i'd be willing to bet it really isn't much more than a lot of other countries.. like China for example, or even the UK or Russia.

Well when your fire power and military expansion is kept with the utter most silence, it's kind of hard to tell isn't it? So obviously your statement holds no bearing at all since we have no idea what we have, or what Russia or China really have.


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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #2297760 - 02/03/04 04:55 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Snobrdr311 said:
I agree, but sometimes force is necessary to protect our people from attacks,




Mabye they were doing just that to protect thier people from the retalitory attack you guys used to protect your people etc etc...

"force" is not a means of 'defense'

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Snobrdr311 said:Do you think the 3,500 people who died on 9/11 would be agreeing with you if they could speak from the dead?




Yes, having died in such an attack, im sure they would not wish it on the aggressors countries citizens.

But i guess you must get even. :rolleyes:

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Snobrdr311 said:Saddam has proven himself to be a threat and a loose cannon by his actions in the past, having him in power is a liability the world just can't take.




Why not? His country doesn't have the largest stockpile of wmd, with pre-emptive policies of using them.

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Snobrdr311 said: I don't want to die in an attack, do you? 




Youd best stay under you bed the rest of your life then... :lol:


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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #2297814 - 02/03/04 05:07 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Snobrdr311 said:
I agree, but sometimes force is necessary to protect our people from attacks,




"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." -- Albert Einstein

also:

"You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war." --Albert Einstein

Choosing to "protect" your people by means of force only results in an ever-degrading situation of endless conflict. Where you must constantly increase the force you use to protect your people. At what point does it become too much?


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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: Clean]
    #2298336 - 02/03/04 07:26 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Clean said:
quick question Snowbrdr311, from which sources do you get most of the news?




cnn.com, drudgereport.com


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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #2301677 - 02/04/04 06:18 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yea until some Republicans said he was wagging the dog...


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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #2362586 - 02/21/04 04:18 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

"set the oil wells on fire for nothing."

I thought they burned the oil wells as a type of "if the westerners want this stuff, then we might as well just burn it"

which I find to be pretty reasonable


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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: Strumpling]
    #2362764 - 02/21/04 07:40 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Strumpling said:
"set the oil wells on fire for nothing."

I thought they burned the oil wells as a type of "if the westerners want this stuff, then we might as well just burn it"

which I find to be pretty reasonable



So deliberately releasing massive amounts of pollution is "reasonable"?

Interesting... and informative.


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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2362800 - 02/21/04 08:36 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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Strumpling said:
"set the oil wells on fire for nothing."

I thought they burned the oil wells as a type of "if the westerners want this stuff, then we might as well just burn it"

which I find to be pretty reasonable



So deliberately releasing massive amounts of pollution is "reasonable"?

Interesting... and informative.




Well, if you look at it from an angry-petty-vengeance point of view, then you can see how it can be seen as reasonable to the people who did it out of defiance.


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Re: Project for New American Century - global military dominance [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #2365185 - 02/21/04 09:07 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Snobrdr311 said:
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silversoul7 said:
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I agree, but sometimes force is necessary to protect our people from attacks, I don't want to die in an attack, do you? Do you think the 3,500 people who died on 9/11 would be agreeing with you if they could speak from the dead?



I agree. Bush should've paid better attention to the warnings and prevented such an attack.

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Saddam has proven himself to be a threat and a loose cannon by his actions in the past, having him in power is a liability the world just can't take.



I don't see how he's any more dangerous than any other dictator in that region, including some of our allies(*cough* Saudi Arabia *cough*).




Actually it was Bill Clinton who had the opportunity to take out Bin Laden many times, and passed on it. Then after Bin Laden attacks many US targets overseas Clinton gets some intel and shoots a couple cruise missiles at him, but misses by an hour cuz he waited to long, again!

So you could say if Clinton would of pulled the trigger when he had the chance there may of never been a 9/11.






Another intelligent fellow! Kudos to the snow boarder! Blaming BUSH for 9/11 is idiotic, Clinton had terrorist attacks on US citizens occur when he was president, he knew who the perpetartor was, why didn't he effectually deal with him?

Answer: He was busy trying to keep the members of the "vast right wing conspiracy" from masturbating him to acquire the sperm that they splattered all over Lewinsky's dress.


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