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Most potent mushroom chocolates
    #22886720 - 02/10/16 10:25 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

What do you think would help make them? I have had some great chocolates in the past but nothing crazy.

I have been wondering what could be added to potentiate things, here are some ideas I have had:

Harmalas, you could add pure harmine/harmaline in the right ratio to make them a little to a lot stronger.

Quality cacao, some cacao has more alkaloids then others and the stuff used traditionally by the Aztecs was much different than today's commercial cacao.

Piperine/ black pepper, seems like it could enhance the bioavailability of some of the actives possibly.

Herbs/ spices, many of the natural flavinoids oils and alkaloids in herbs and spices could add to the experience.

Cannabis, what if you made canna cacao butter to use for chocolate? Would be interesting having mushroom edibles...
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Any thoughts or additions?


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #22886737 - 02/10/16 10:29 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

You want to be careful if adding harmala because some foods can have negative reactions with it. Find for personal dosing if you are informed, but probably not the best idea for just handing out.


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22886760 - 02/10/16 10:36 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

The harmala diet thing is pretty overblown, drug reactions are really the biggest issue unless you are eating large harmala doses.

An average dose of 100-150mg won't interact with most peoples diets, everyone is different though :shrug:

I definitely wouldn't hand out anything with maoi's in them though :lol: If you are giving someone a chocolate it isn't much extra effort to explain the harmalas though.
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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: musiclover420]
    #22886767 - 02/10/16 10:39 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

I agree it's overblown, but there still are possible reactions that seem fairly common. Usually nothing worse than a bad headache, but who wants a bad headache while tripping balls?


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: musiclover420]
    #22886769 - 02/10/16 10:40 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

Good thought. I don't know how necessarily, but some citrus power could do well.
Also there is some report of clove oil and the effects that clove has on the effects of mushrooms. One discussion I was in:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22580749/page/1


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: musiclover420]
    #22886780 - 02/10/16 10:45 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

I used to "supplement" with raw cocoa daily because i heard that it had some benefits. Its hard to get down but if you take enough it definitely has effects, it contains phenethylamine, tryptophan anandamide, theobromine and apperently some MAOIs (probably mild, but still be careful combining with harmine or harmaline). I need like 2 heaping tea spoons to feel very happy and energetic, there is a come down the next day if you take that much too often though so i stopped. It might  add to the effects of the shrooms. theobromine is a methylxanthine like caffine and it is a vasodialator so it may counter the vasoconstriction from the shrooms.
EDIT: if you heat the cocoa you will loose alot of alkaloids, thats one of the reasons choclate has barely any alkaloids.


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #22886788 - 02/10/16 10:48 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

If it's hard to get down, you're doing it wrong. Put it in a blender with hot water. Add sugar/honey, cinnamon, cayenne, cardamom, and/or vanilla to taste.


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #22886796 - 02/10/16 10:51 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

I just bought some unhybridized "ceremonial" cacao which is supposed to have a higher content of actives and I definitely get effects just from eating a gram.

I have yet to eat very much since I want to use it for a recipe but it stimulates me decently in low doses. I need to get a pound to try more.


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: musiclover420]
    #22886798 - 02/10/16 10:52 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

We do 1.5 oz each in our cacao ceremonies I've been going to. Definitely feel that. Kinda MDMA like in ways.


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22886809 - 02/10/16 10:57 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

But then you need to drink it for a longer period of time. So:
1) it may be less bitter but i have to drink it for longer
2) i feel like if i eat it all at once i absorb it more quickly have have a greater ammount of alks in my blood at once, soni dissolve it in a shot of warm water and shoot it back. It may not make a difference but Im weird like that, i have rituals for every drug i do.
I dont do it anymore anyway, i would like to try making a total alkaloid extract though.


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: musiclover420]
    #22886815 - 02/10/16 10:59 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

I didnt have a scale when i used to do it but i remember that the difference between 1 and 2 heaping spoon fulls of baking cocoa was pretty great so try more if you dont feel sick or depressed the next day.


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Edited by BANANA.MAN (02/10/16 10:59 AM)


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #22886827 - 02/10/16 11:03 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

When I buy a larger amount I definitely intend to try using it more as a supplement as I enjoy snacking on it.


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: musiclover420]
    #22887287 - 02/10/16 01:19 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

I had a cup of shroom tea once with saphron, added some sensuality to the trip.
I usually experienent with mixing herbs in tea form to shroom tea.
My favorites so far are lemon grass tea with shrooms, very calming, and saphron tea with shroom tea, adds sensuality.

I have some cocao, but haven't tried it with shrooms yet.
Ginger tea is also pretty nice on the stomach.


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: impaired420] * 1
    #22887343 - 02/10/16 01:30 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

Either use more potent cubensis. Maybe soak the mushrooms in lemon juice first and then add them to the chocolates. 


Kind of like a chocolate lemon tek.

I don't know if that will degrade at all, but it was just a thought.


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: Big Worm]
    #22887358 - 02/10/16 01:34 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

Make Lemon chocloates! or orange chocolate candies :yesnod:

As bigworm said, make an isolate of potent cubes and use those. Ive bought shroom chocolates from a dealer, and one of those chocolates had one gram in them and it was a potent trip. Easily level 3, not for beginnigers!


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22888097 - 02/10/16 05:31 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

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You want to be careful if adding harmala because some foods can have negative reactions with it. Find for personal dosing if you are informed, but probably not the best idea for just handing out.




chocolate is one of those foods, isn't it?


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: kyu]
    #22888106 - 02/10/16 05:33 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

yes you just need potent mushrooms for potent mushroom chocolates.
you could add weed


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: kyu]
    #22888187 - 02/10/16 05:52 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

personally I shave the rind of lemons and oranges into my chocolates along with powdered citric acid.

hands down best mush chocolate recipe I've eaten: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21594422


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: musiclover420]
    #22889507 - 02/10/16 10:06 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

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Quality cacao, some cacao has more alkaloids then others and the stuff used traditionally by the Aztecs was much different than today's commercial cacao.




You just don't know that. Cacao contains caffeine, which is well established as being psychoactive as well as a structurally related molecule, theobromine. Cacao also contains other unique chemicals, but if you read the relevant technical info,* you'll see that it's never been proven that they are psychoactive.

*https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20839702#20839702


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Re: Most potent mushroom chocolates [Re: Kalendula]
    #22889566 - 02/10/16 10:19 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

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You just don't know that.




I have done a lot of research on the subject and also have had dark chocolate and cacao cause mental shifts countless times...

More than just a stimulating effect too.


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