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I.D for possible Gymnopilus Sapineus/Penetrans on Pine
    #22872743 - 02/06/16 08:35 PM (8 years, 11 days ago)

First time finding this species. Not totally for certain it's Gymnopilus  but there are some characteristics that give me enough of a feeling that it is to bring it to you  guys.

Found in North Florida growing under a mature pine on rotten pine deadfall/cones/etc.

Cap color is orange to a yellow sometimes both.

Stem is longer and more slender then other Gyms I know.Appears hollow but I noticed they are being eating inside out by bettle larvae. Found some solid stems.

No noticeable veil.

Taste is bitter/peppery hard to explain but definitely different than just a mushroom taste, from what I remember like Gym Spec but it's been a few years so I don't want to trust myself to much on that.

Also bruises to a similar degree like Gym spec on stems ,gills,caps,etc.to a dark brown and progressively gets darker over time. Although no blueing on pins as other Gyms I have encountered.

Taking prints right now. Please let me know if there is anything else I can add or a different view you need.http:/[url=http://files.shroomery.org/files/16-005/480169365-10.jpg][image]http://www.shroomery.org/forums/thumbs/16-005/480

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Re: I.D for possible Gymnopilus Sapineus/Penetrans on Pine [Re: prestonm205]
    #22873062 - 02/06/16 09:41 PM (8 years, 11 days ago)

It's in that group.  Distinctive features that I can see are the very finely squamulosa pileus and the brown staining on both stem and cap where damaged.


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Re: I.D for possible Gymnopilus Sapineus/Penetrans on Pine [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #22873124 - 02/06/16 09:57 PM (8 years, 11 days ago)

Thanks man, Ill have more pictures when the prints are are done.


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Re: I.D for possible Gymnopilus Sapineus/Penetrans on Pine [Re: prestonm205]
    #22873132 - 02/06/16 09:59 PM (8 years, 11 days ago)

I know what the print will look like - what we need to examine are the cheilocystidia, pleurocystidia, caulocystidia, pileocystidia, lamellar trama, pileus trama, spore size and ornamentation.


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Re: I.D for possible Gymnopilus Sapineus/Penetrans on Pine [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #22873194 - 02/06/16 10:14 PM (8 years, 11 days ago)

I wish I had a scope that had that kind of magnification. Are you interested in examining them or are you backed up?

I have a el cheapo microscope I got for my children, are any of those features identifiable under low magnification? I know examining the spores is out of the question for me.


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Re: I.D for possible Gymnopilus Sapineus/Penetrans on Pine [Re: prestonm205]
    #22873220 - 02/06/16 10:20 PM (8 years, 11 days ago)

Ill familiarise my self with these terms so I can get more specific images

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Re: I.D for possible Gymnopilus Sapineus/Penetrans on Pine [Re: prestonm205]
    #22876712 - 02/07/16 07:49 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

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I wish I had a scope that had that kind of magnification. Are you interested in examining them or are you backed up?




I have too many Gymnopilus to work on of my own.

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I have a el cheapo microscope I got for my children, are any of those features identifiable under low magnification? I know examining the spores is out of the question for me.




Probably not.  Some of those can show you a little at 200 or 400x, however given the time it takes to learn what you are looking at, it would be worthwhile to invest in a $160 scope if you plan to go in that direction.


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Re: I.D for possible Gymnopilus Sapineus/Penetrans on Pine [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #22877180 - 02/07/16 09:33 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

Yea it would be worth it.I'd like to get one I can hook up to a camera and document everything.

Are Gymnopilus Sapineus and Gymnopilus Penetrans considered the same species I've seen some info out there that seems to lump them together.


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Re: I.D for possible Gymnopilus Sapineus/Penetrans on Pine [Re: prestonm205]
    #22877543 - 02/07/16 11:31 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

For who is interested here are the prints.Light and Camera were fighting with me as usual.










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