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Offlineinnernetter
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fully colonized pf cakes
    #2286157 - 01/30/04 04:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This is my first grow/pf tek all. IVe been waiting for the jars to be colonized for almost 2 mothns and 2 of them are fully colonized. My jars are un-contaminated and I have been incubating them at about 38? . But what to do with them after theyre fully colonized eg: (1. Expose them to light with heat, 2. Expose them to light without heat, 3. Expose them to less heat and no light. 4. Wait for them to grow baby mushrooms before doing anyting) What should I do?? Please advise, I would REALLY like a sucessful flush for my very first round; what with the lack of Psylosibe throughout the past year in my area....


(Forgive the poor spelling ime on drugs/the box decied to OVERWRITE the thing when i tried to edit it and im too lazy tyo fix the whole thing)


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    #2286165 - 01/30/04 04:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: OldSpice]
    #2286173 - 01/30/04 04:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've read it a hundred times over


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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: innernetter]
    #2286178 - 01/30/04 04:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

sorry i didnt finish.. but Ive read it a hundred times over and it never precisly answered my question.... i just want a blantant understanding of what to do; what with this being the first time ive ever grown mushrooms


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    #2286195 - 01/30/04 04:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: OldSpice]
    #2286210 - 01/30/04 04:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

not doing a casing... im doin cakes (if that makes a difference....)


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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: innernetter]
    #2286217 - 01/30/04 04:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

well you said 38 degrees??? its 86 degrees and two months is an insanely long time for jars to colonise!!, but wash up well clean the area with bleach, spray lysol, buy a rubbermaid, clean it well, wet some perlite with tap water through a strainer and spread across the bottom of rubbermaid tub, unscrew lids of jars, fill lid of jar with vermiculite, wet it and let it drain through innoc holes, scrape the dry vermiculite layer off your cakes{1 by 1}. place cake on wet vermiculite on jar lid, put a spoonful more of wet vermiculite across top of cake{thinly}. place cakes in rubbermaid bin on top of perlite roughly 2 inches apart{don't overcrowd}. take a peice of cardboard and use it as a shield to spray the walls of bin down til droplets/condensation is visible but be careful not to spray the cakes directly, do this 3-5 times a day to maintain proper humidity and fan out the air in the bin 3-5 times a day as well, don't touch play with or breath on them at all and keep your house EXTRA clean, also take a small flourescent light and give it a few hours a day so the shrooms know what direction to grow in!


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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: beanchild]
    #2286223 - 01/30/04 04:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

room temp 70-75 degrees is fine and a tiny inderect light a few hours a day is all!


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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: beanchild]
    #2286235 - 01/30/04 04:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

38? Celcieus ( metric sorry i didnt clarify canadian eh)


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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: innernetter]
    #2286258 - 01/30/04 04:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ive got a sterile aquarium with perlite, but is till dont know exactly when do birth the cakes, before they show tiny mushrooms or afgter


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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: innernetter]
    #2286260 - 01/30/04 04:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

forgive the poor everything im drunk as a skunk lmao


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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: innernetter]
    #2286289 - 01/30/04 05:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

38 ? C ?!?!? :frown:
The spore should be almost death, and either the mycelium...
The max temperature you should reach is 30? C, and that's
high enough (too much).
What the mycelium looks like?
Have any picture?

Anyway, if the cakes are "alive" (and it would seem to me
strange), put them in a terrarium at 24 ? C 100 % RH
with some wet perlite at the bottom. That way I'm working.
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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: innernetter]
    #2286294 - 01/30/04 05:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

>38? Celcieus

38?C!!
This is just under the death limit!(41?C)
THis is way too much!

28?C is the temperature you are aiming at for the colonization phase.

As for the fruiting:
The pftek says:
"After the substrate turns white with the mycelium (2 or 3 weeks after inoculation), the jars are left to sit in indirect light. The mycelium will continue to infiltrate the substrate until it gets enough food to trigger the fruiting cycle. In less than a week to a few weeks after surface colonization of the cake, tiny white "pin" like structures begin to appear. This is called pinning. This is the beginning of the fruiting cycle. Soon after that, within the week, small round fungus growths appear that soon begin to turn yellow.

Lastly, "primordia" start to grow. These are tiny worm like structures with tiny reddish heads. These are the first mushrooms. "

From http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23593/pag/2


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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: Anno]
    #2286308 - 01/30/04 05:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the temps are probably innacurate because im not with the thermometre at present.... but i am aware and positive that they are below thermal death


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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: innernetter]
    #2286798 - 01/30/04 12:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Candorf said:
the temps are probably innacurate because im not with the thermometre at present.... but i am aware and positive that they are below thermal death




How do you know if you don't have a thermometer?


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Re: fully colonized pf cakes [Re: Cubensis_Cube]
    #2287147 - 01/30/04 03:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I said that because i wasnt at home at the time, right now, the temperature is 28?.


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