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Offlineeb20
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Polyfill vs Tyvek
    #2283318 - 01/29/04 06:12 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

Instead of dropping cash on more polyfill than I need, can I just cannabalize one of my unused pillows? Or should I explore the free tyvek envelopes that our government provides to the mushroom community?


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Anonymous

Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: eb20]
    #2283449 - 01/29/04 07:10 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

a bag of polyfil is CHEAP and it will last you FOREVER :P I've never used tyvek but after using polyfil I see no need too


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: eb20]
    #2283465 - 01/29/04 07:15 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

Instead of dropping cash on more polyfill than I need, can I just cannabalize one of my unused pillows?

you could... if you wanted to ruin a pillow to save $4.

Or should I explore the free tyvek envelopes that our government provides to the mushroom community?

i've never used tyvek. polyfil works for me.


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: eb20]
    #2283481 - 01/29/04 07:21 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

never used polyfill. tried tyvek once, had jars colonising for verrry long (they were kinda overcooked and werent incubated) they took like 3 months incubating but the tyvek kept each one contam free, if that says anything. also it seems like this stuff would last forever, you never need to change it just put a 1/2 inch or so hole in your jar lid and silicon on a piece of tyvek. the tyvek has much smaller air holes than polyfill while still allowing sufficient air exchange.


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Offlineeb20
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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: distortion]
    #2283744 - 01/29/04 08:43 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

I was also trying to save a trip to the store, but I dont mind it if it is so cheap.


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Anonymous

Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: eb20]
    #2283882 - 01/29/04 09:24 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

tyvek is fool proof if you dont use the polyfil right it will alow contams to get through you just need to pack it reall tight and youll be fine one advantige to pollyfill is that you can inject throught it but I like tyvek better I just put another hole in the lid and tape it works great


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: fee]
    #2284062 - 01/29/04 10:15 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

Someone should post the link to the usps for the 10 free envelopes, I could use that myself...


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InvisibleBadEnglish
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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: etard]
    #2284081 - 01/29/04 10:22 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

Here is the link for free tyvek envelopes mailed to you by the post office.Free shipping boxes and tape and other stuff to.
http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/postal...at=Personal+Use


you can order as many as you want,they just come in packs of 10


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Anonymous

Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: etard]
    #2284089 - 01/29/04 10:24 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

I have looked for the link and cant find it just go to your post office they will give as many as you want if they ask any Q's just say I got a ton of stuff to mail thier FREE they dont care. I just walk in and take about 20 and walk out they dont even say a word


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Offlineetard
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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: fee]
    #2284429 - 01/30/04 12:17 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

Small rural suburbia doesn't have them :frown:


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Offlinealienated
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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: fee]
    #2284433 - 01/30/04 12:19 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

i work at kinko's and we print on tyvek :smile: so , it's free to me :-P


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Anonymous

Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: alienated]
    #2284775 - 01/30/04 02:09 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

i got some paper coffee filters, are those considered to be tyvek? they work.


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    #2284789 - 01/30/04 02:12 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)



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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: OldSpice]
    #2284832 - 01/30/04 02:28 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

How do i know if the envelopes are Tyvek or not? I went to the postal service link provided by BadEnglish and it says nothing of being made of Tyvek, i was thinking it is the Express mail envelopes, where can i find just Tyvek sheets, walmart? thanks for the help.


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: KreeprCeepr]
    #2284842 - 01/30/04 02:32 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

The express mail. The floppy, untearable stuff.


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InvisibleBadEnglish
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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: KreeprCeepr]
    #2284845 - 01/30/04 02:34 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

Well thats really strange.This afternoon when i posted the link the link led directly to the tyvek envelopes on the post office website.now it doesnt anymore,and i just did a real good search and they are no where to be found anywhere on the post offices website?i ordered 50 yesterday,and it went through fine.thats weird.sorry the link dont work anymore for tyvek but all of those boxes arent sent to you for free in groups of 10.those priorty mail toobes are pretty good for syringes.


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InvisibleBadEnglish
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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: KreeprCeepr]
    #2284888 - 01/30/04 02:53 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

try this link,something is wacky with their website.now at this moment when i post this link it leads directly to tyvek envelopes,well see if it changes again.:
http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/postal...jsp?OID=1003543


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Offlinealienated
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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: BadEnglish]
    #2284897 - 01/30/04 02:58 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

tyvek almost feels like regular paper, but w/ a bit of wax thrown in. if you can tear it, it's not tyvek.


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: eb20]
    #2284923 - 01/30/04 03:10 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

I just have two pieces of foil over my lids (the one innoculated through under a second layer obviously. I don't use a filter and things have never ever gone wrong. I don't see it likely that it will either.

If you can acquire filter easily, by all means. But I'm not going to try too hard because it makes no difference to me. Why put a direct route to your innoculation holes when you could just as easily foil over, leaving pretty much only the indirect route caused by an imperfect seal of foil.


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    #2284930 - 01/30/04 03:14 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)



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So hard to be ....WDWGFH?
Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: OldSpice]
    #2285103 - 01/30/04 04:18 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

Thanks for the link BadEnglish, 20 Tyvek filters (i mean envelopes) are on their way to my house! now should i only use the white part of the envelope, or can i use the part this is printed on as well?


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: eb20]
    #2285200 - 01/30/04 04:52 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

I would use polyfill. Its $2 for a years supply at WallyWorld. Tyvek has always given me moisture control problems.


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: eb20]
    #2285384 - 01/30/04 05:59 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

They both work well... whatever you try first will likely be the last thing you try.


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    #2285394 - 01/30/04 06:03 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)



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So hard to be ....WDWGFH?
Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: OldSpice]
    #2285947 - 01/30/04 09:14 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

Yeah, anno is where I got my supply too. My parents thought it odd me getting a package of envelopes in the mail, haha.


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: OldSpice]
    #2286306 - 01/30/04 12:31 PM (19 years, 12 days ago)

I love tyvek.

I like to write on it. That way I don't have to put tape on the jar.





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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: OldSpice]
    #2286312 - 01/30/04 12:38 PM (19 years, 12 days ago)

>I think Anno is where i first found out about polyfill and it does really
Actually no, polyfill was around much earlier, but I was the first to write handy illustrated directions on how to make a polyfill lid.

www.fungifun.org/polyfill

BUT I was the first who was testing out tyvek as a filter material on this board, 2 years ago here:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=516281

As I found out later tyvek also has been used a long time before by commercial growers.


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    #2286719 - 01/30/04 06:52 PM (19 years, 12 days ago)



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So hard to be ....WDWGFH?
Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


You never see a motorcycle parked outside a Psychiatrist office:biker:


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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: OldSpice]
    #2286775 - 01/30/04 07:23 PM (19 years, 12 days ago)

Both, I couldn?t say that I prefer one over another.


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OfflineKreeprCeepr
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Re: Polyfill vs Tyvek [Re: Anno]
    #2287210 - 01/30/04 10:23 PM (19 years, 12 days ago)

Hey Magash, could you explain to me why it looks like you use bandaids on your tyvek filter over those jars? i think the tyvek envelopes are the only thing in this country you can get free besides the finger!


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