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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: TheProfessor]
    #2295004 - 02/02/04 08:14 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

rodger's using rye, not wbs so you may need to alter the time to suit the media.
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I finally noc'd my first caffeinated substrate jars a few days ago. Unprecedented growth! I can't believe I'd never heard of this before coming to this distinguished community. As far as I'm concerned, caffeinating the substrate should be as standard in the grow process as pressure cooking.




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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #2295058 - 02/02/04 08:45 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I'm thinking of using straight coffee to moisten some vermiculite for use in a rez-effect casing.. I don't trust adding anything with nuts to the casing layer, and have no lime to buffer the ph, so I think this is a safe way to see how coffee affects my pinsets. I'm going to be doing two casings:

Control:
- Multispore GT
- 4 pints of substrate
- 1cm 50/50 casing
- 12"x10" cropping surface
- 25% addition of hydrated verm to substrate

Experiment:
- Multispore GT
- 4 pints of substrate
- 1cm 50/50 casing
- 12"x10" cropping surface
- 25% addition of coffee hydrated verm to substrate

If there is anything about this you think I should change, speak up.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Jared]
    #2295413 - 02/02/04 10:19 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

one more tray done with just caffeinated water would be good.
ever tried perlite instead of verm in that rez effect method ?
might be another interesting experiment there.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #2295925 - 02/03/04 01:12 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not much of a caffeine guy,

Where would be a good place to start, I didn?t see anyone giving any specific ratio of pure caffeine to grain. Are Caff pills even ?pure??


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: ExtravagantDream]
    #2296601 - 02/03/04 09:03 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

i'd start, if i were using caffeine extract,
with about 50-75 mg in a cup of water.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #2296799 - 02/03/04 10:41 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I don't really follow a specific tek for grains. I just submerge it and let it soak up as much as it wants. But I guess to get the same results I would still follow that procedure. Any estimate on how much that is per kilogram of grain?


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: ExtravagantDream]
    #2296829 - 02/03/04 10:52 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

the caffeine would be proportional to the water used,
not the grain.
so put the grain in the pot,
but measure how much water you add,
so you can get the ratio to about 50-75 mg per
cup of water used.
that way no matter how much gets absorbed
the ratio/concentration should be about right.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #2297559 - 02/03/04 04:00 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

im eager to see what happens with the project i just started. Basic PF Jars, but with WBS flour instead of BRF, and 1/4 cup water subbed out for 1/4 cup coffee. should be interestin


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #2297631 - 02/03/04 04:20 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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ever tried perlite instead of verm in that  rez effect method ?
might be another interesting experiment there.




I have. It worked good. :thumbup:


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #2297633 - 02/03/04 04:20 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

has anyone established a limit to the benefits of coffee? is more better in this circumstance. btw.. im still interested in seeing side by side comparisons of a clone grown on a control and a coffee supplemented jar.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: amyloid]
    #2297703 - 02/03/04 04:41 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

yeah is there such a thing as too much caf where it starts to have a negative effect or is more like trying to stuff as much caffeine as you can into your grains?


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Yarry]
    #2298259 - 02/03/04 07:00 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

we simply don't know, yet.
apparently pure coffee was too strong,
but we aren't sure if that was the ph,
other chemicals, or what.
these are experimental questions that you are asking,
we won't know until the experiments are performed.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: THEBOSS]
    #2298342 - 02/03/04 07:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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my foaf is doing 3 half pint jars with the Hawaiian strain. He says he'll keep a log and have pictures when hes done.

1) Just Rye
2) Rye w/.5 grams instant coffee
3) Rye w/1.5 grams " "

*The coffee was added to the jars right before PC'ing

What do you think?


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My buddy just told me that the one with just rye is the only one showing signs right now. This could be for a long list of reasons, like the fact this is only his second grow and the PH was never check or balanced. He says he'll keep me posted so we'll see.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: THEBOSS]
    #2298828 - 02/03/04 11:24 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

i'd suggest first duplication rodger's method,
i.e. use fresh brewed coffee watered down 50%
to soak the grain.
there was no coffee in rodger's jars
after he drained, just what the grain
absorbed.
which would be a fairly small amount
in a half pint.
i'd guess yours are a bit too strong.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #2298880 - 02/03/04 11:47 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

you dont need a ph balencer when you soak in coffee juice? or do you? did rodger?


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: fee]
    #2298973 - 02/04/04 12:11 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Balancing the PH may reduce the effects of the coffee, after all.. we are not entirely sure what it is that causes this effect yet (or whether it is definitely better)


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: utopianglory]
    #2299054 - 02/04/04 12:29 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

the comment was merely for too much coffee may skew the pH too far to where mycelium will not grow.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #2299312 - 02/04/04 02:04 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Why the hell hasn't anyone thought of trying decaf coffee?
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Someone. Do it. Now.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: adoseofparn0z]
    #2299426 - 02/04/04 03:18 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Decaf is just bad, it tastes horrible.  I have bought gourmet decafs and they are still terrible.  I would not make anything suffer through a cup of that crap.  Believe me I know what you are getting at though.

ExtravagantDream: Coffee can be grown in when undiluted, so ph is unlikely to be a problem but I hear you :smile:


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: utopianglory]
    #2299748 - 02/04/04 08:29 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Decaf is just bad, it tastes horrible.  I have bought gourmet decafs and they are still terrible.  I would not make anything suffer through a cup of that crap.  Believe me I know what you are getting at though.

ExtravagantDream: Coffee can be grown in when undiluted, so ph is unlikely to be a problem but I hear you :smile:




nobody said you had to drink it.


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