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The Coffee Project * 1
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We recently been doing some interesting experiments with coffee over at mycotopia.
see http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/96317.html

our resident mad genius rodger rabbit of the fruiting bible, hemp shroom burrito, hemp ball of twine and Straw Log fruiting fame
has been getting some very encouraging results using coffee as a soak for his grains,
also coffee grounds in his casings, etc.
those are cross-linked as subtopics of the link i just posted above.
we also read that caffeine has been correlated with a boost in sclerotia formation with mexicana
so being the curious sort
we wondered if it might do something for cubensis as well,
esp. considering rodger's coffee results [since coffee contains caffeine].
so we've been trying a few new experiments,
such as a coffee dunk,
to see if we can pin down anything special/useful about
coffee or caffeine.
initial results have been encouraging,
but as always,
more experiments are needed.
so click the link,
read what we've done/are doing,
and plz consider doing a few experiments
of your own to help us all
pin this thing down one way or the other.
thx.
rodger sez-
these jars were straight rye, no casing, but hydrated in diluted coffee. You decide. I say it's the coffee, but damned if I know what 'part' of the coffee did it.

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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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damn, that's some EXPLOSIVE invitro  :eek:


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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Woow, great experiment  :thumbup:

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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: distortion]
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no doubt,
esp. when one considers that the strain
used was the PR [puerto rico],
a strain notorious for being
a difficult pinner.
not to mention the fact that normally
pure grain pins very poorly until
it's cased.


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Mycotopia

Edited by Hippie3 (01/30/04 07:15 AM)

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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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more from rodger-
Ok, it's the coffee. Here's another series. These jars were inoculated 26 days ago.


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Edited by Hippie3 (01/29/04 09:44 AM)

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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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Wow!  :shocked:

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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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has anyone tried tea yet?


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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Has anyone ingested these? Wheres the trip report...

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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: TheProfessor]
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id be worried about the caffiene somehow ending up in the mushrooms at the end. caffiene can really spin a trip and give it some intensity that is very unnecesary. although, if its just a wash on the substrate...it might not absorb any at all. ill give this a shot and let ya'll know how it goes.

hippie: how did you go about making sure the coffee was sterile?

~JSlice~


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: amyloid]
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amyloid said:
has anyone tried tea yet?


not to my knowledge,
but since it too contains caffeine
it might be well worth giving it a try.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: angryjslice]
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angryjslice said:
id be worried about the caffiene somehow ending up in the mushrooms at the end. caffiene can really spin a trip and give it some intensity that is very unnecesary. although, if its just a wash on the substrate...it might not absorb any at all. ill give this a shot and let ya'll know how it goes.

hippie: how did you go about making sure the coffee was sterile?

~JSlice~


more from rodger-
Just dump your leftover coffee into the water you soak your grains in. About 50/50 coffee/water is a good strength
the coffee was brewed normally,
and wasn't really sterile,
more like pasturized.
of course the grain was then PC'd.
i wouldn't be overly concerned about
getting any significant amounts of caffeine
by eating shrooms from this tek.
you'd have to eat a whole lot of shrooms
to get any effect even if did manage to get thru.


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Mycotopia

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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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This project looks interesting, I think with my next batch I shall try this!!!


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: DefendentOfHate]
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it proly bears mentioning that the quarts seen above pinning at 26 days were exposed to light from very early on.


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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Have you tried casing these yet?


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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Very interesting.

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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: MrMaddHatter]
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If it IS the caffeine in the coffee that increases growth then couldnt you just grind up some caffeine pills and dissolve it in your water that you soak grains in?


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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I was just about to prep up some WBS jars.

Probably make about 8 of them or so, so I'll do two strains (both known to be good), with two jars of each going to coffee soak, and the other two going to the plain ol tap water soak.

I will probably have these innoc'd by Saturday if not sooner, I'll let you know.

Hippie, do they just seem more prominent to fruit/pin, or does colonization happen faster as well?


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: distortion]
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Quote:
distortion said:
If it IS the caffeine in the coffee that increases growth then couldnt you just grind up some caffeine pills and dissolve it in your water that you soak grains in?


we're currently testing that theory,
early results indicate that it may well be true
that it is the caffeine
but more tests are needed


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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: Hippie3]
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interesting
here's an article on "Growing oyster mushrooms on spent coffee grains" at :
http://www.shiitake.de/eng/an_intro/an_kaffee/hauptteil_an_kaffee.html
the tek seems to be spreading like mycelia :smile:

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Re: The Coffee Project [Re: TheProfessor]
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TheProfessor said:
Has anyone ingested these? Wheres the trip report...


yes,
fruitbodies were perfectly normal in every way.


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