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OfflineSeriously_trippin
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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: Nobler Hino] * 1
    #22832084 - 01/27/16 09:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Snitches belong in a fucking box



True that I didn't read the snitch part,just saw 40lbs and thought it was in a different country. Snitching is always bad though? What if you witnessed a murder and the only way the family would have closure is ur verification (assuming it wouldn't put in u or ur family in danger too) I'd probably struggle with the descion but that's some real shit.

On a general basis snitching is fucked up and can ruin lives. Especially terrible over pot or lsd or something


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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 2
    #22832116 - 01/27/16 09:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Reporting a murder and testifying is completely different than ratting out your drug dealer to save your own ass. Drug use is a victimless crime in itself. Murder is not. One is being a good citizen and person, the other is just cowardly.

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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: SeductionRanks20]
    #22832263 - 01/27/16 09:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's why I said always wrong to snitch no but in most cases especially drugs not related to violence ratting is unacceptable.


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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: SeductionRanks20]
    #22832344 - 01/27/16 10:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Reporting a murder and testifying is completely different than ratting out your drug dealer to save your own ass. Drug use is a victimless crime in itself. Murder is not. One is being a good citizen and person, the other is just cowardly.



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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: deladude]
    #22832351 - 01/27/16 10:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #22832458 - 01/27/16 10:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You make a premium because you sell large quantities of illegal drugs.  The risk is implicit in the activity.  When you make a bunch of cash and then get caught, i dont feel sorry for you.  Thats the risk you took on.  See you in 4 years.


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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: All We Perceive] * 1
    #22832624 - 01/27/16 11:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This thread disgusts me in so many ways.

4 years for a couple lbs? Do some research in your area and find the sharkest lawyer there is in that county. I paid 1200 for a lawyer on one case ( 2 felonies ), then got raided when I got treatment in lieu and got all my felonies, and got what I heard was a shark.....well apparently he USED to be a shark.  I dropped 2500 on that lawyer, and he got me NO deal....he said with my case just plead guilty and hope for mercy.....I did get mercy with what I was looking at.  But when I was locked up I talked to a lot of people who were in there and they hooked me up with a truly badass attorney.....I wish I would've had him since the beginning because I would have no felonies.  He works fucking magic.....but he isn't cheap.

I have a friend who just got nailed with way way more than that and has to do 18 months ISP with no snithching.

I got caught with no weight, but 5 felonies at once and I had to do 2 months county, 6 months corrections, and 15 months ISP.  I had a halfassed attorney though, and I was looking at way more time, the judge gave me a short sentence because I was a caretaker for my grandfather at the time, working a fulltime job, and was willing to shell out cash for all the fines and forfeited my 11,000 van.


But god the amount of people saying they would sell people out, + the defense of any snitch......

People have robbed me large amounts of money and I just remember money causes the mind to act in terrible ways, and focus on my MORALS.  No street code, no fear of throat slitting.  MORALS and ACCEPTANCE of what I....MYSELF...ME...have done. 


There's too many posts to quote WTF rebuttals too.  There is no circumstances where selling out anyone is worth avoiding your own mistakes.  That person you are selling out has a heart, a soul, a family, friends, if anything he he/she has hopes buried deep down no matter how shitty they are.  You hate them enough to send them to a concrete room?  Nah.  You hate yourself so much you can actually live with the fact you are feeding your own to the corrupt system that is.


And no 100% of street kids don't snitch. I know a lot of people sitting in lock up right now with tight lips, and I know a lot of people that paid a ton of fucking money to stay out of prison.  Snitching is for fucktards that don't think 360 about their life, their actions, and give no shits to rake in enough cash to pay the piper.  When I was locked up though, a lot of fucks in there justified their snitching, and in all the drug classes they were praised by counselors for snitching.  In NA and AA they will definitely tell you that snitching is good for the community, and your karma......but those people believe in a broken system of human trafficking.


This thread is sad. Sad as fuck.

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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: bloodsheen] * 5
    #22832709 - 01/28/16 01:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yea I'd rat on a guy who was a scumbag any day. I'm fiercely loyal to my family but some dealer I didn't even like? You'd better believe I'd throw that fucker under the bus in a second and back over him. Street loyalty is for kids, grown men know the deal. If you can't be like the mafia and slit my throat for snitching, I will sell your ass out for a dollar

Yall can have your "bro code" or "rules of the street" or whatever you want to call it. I'll come visit you in jail to shake your hand for being so fucking honorable



Damn dude. No matter what forum i see you in, you suck, in all of them. Blow the whistle on this post, as I'm sure you will. But you are a true piece of shit.


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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: azur]
    #22832740 - 01/28/16 01:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I know someone who did two years with just a few ounces after selling roxies to a undercover

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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: Konyap]
    #22832800 - 01/28/16 02:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Trafficking any opiate in my state is bad news bears. You will end up doing time or pulling a bloodsheen fuck boy move.

I rarely hear of people getting hit on weed or oil selling stings in my state, but if they get hit with bulk or in the mail they get charged trafficking, which usually gets reduced to felony possession and prob + fines.

My state stopped sending non violent offenders at the f5 and f4 level years ago, but with dope and meth its a bit different.

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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: vandago]
    #22832976 - 01/28/16 04:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yall niggas gonna get a fat ass ratings rape admitting you'd snitch on someone. Snitches aren't too well liked around here. I've seen multiple users go from 5 shrooms down to 2 or 3 real quick from admitting their Snitches.

Theives get their ratings smashed almost as hard as Snitches do around these parts.

As for Matt, you're friends with a snitch, you think he made the smart choice. He's already proven he can't be trusted. Cut him out of your life before you end up being his get out of jail free card.

Bloodsheen, well. I have nothing to say to you that's appropriate for the pub.

Snitches make me sick.


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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22833005 - 01/28/16 05:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ya this whole thread is a serious "Are you serious?"

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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: vandago] * 2
    #22833019 - 01/28/16 05:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

People that can't do jail time shouldn't sell drugs.  You should have an idea of the consequences for any amount you are dealing before going into it.


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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: fapjack]
    #22833027 - 01/28/16 05:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I totally respect that statement. I do obviously think this particular penalty is pretty harsh, but op isn't giving any details so it could be just based on the laws in his state etc.


Just the idea of snitching in general is so fucking bullshit. Why throw people under the bus because you can't deal with being under it?  My raid was the result of a snitch, and I just let it be. Most people would try to get revenge or whatever bloodsheen esq, but I just know that person has a horrid mind as it is and lives his life in misery already. The mind beats itself up.

I'm pretty passive these days about everything. If it happens to me, its probably because I'm a dumbass, and I do everything I can to avoid causing anyone else any misery.

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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: vandago]
    #22833046 - 01/28/16 06:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

In my state growers get 5 years minimum.  It's a 2nd degree manufacturing charge so that is the minimum.  The laws are bullshit, but you should be willing to do that type of time if you are going to grow.  I've been ratted out before also, luckily it was only for a half a brick.  I hate the bitch that ratted me out and would never do that to someone else.  Buy the ticket, take the ride.  Seems like an easy philosophy.  The war on drugs would not be anywhere near as destructive if no one ratted.


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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: fapjack]
    #22833049 - 01/28/16 06:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Here its a two year min, but you can get those charges reduced if you have a good attorney and a real life....job, college, kids ( not around the grow ), family, contribute to your community.

Getting busted just sitting around trapping with plants and showing off your bling does you no good, but if you are growing on the side of a career with a life it looks a lot better with a good attorney.  I've never grown or manufactured anything because I don't like the idea of mandatory sentences. I stick to just buying and consuming when I can now, but the last few months have been cleanliness.

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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: vandago]
    #22833069 - 01/28/16 06:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just because a charge carries a certain minimum doesn't mean you'll even get what you're charged with.

You can be arrested and charged with distribution and then have it dropped to simple possession in court if you have a good enough lawyer.


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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22833082 - 01/28/16 06:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's what I'm saying. Cops use snitching as a scare tactic. Any lawyer will tell you snitching is the dumbest shit you can do.  The cops will just run you til they can't anymore, everyone will hate you, and you'll end up fucking up again and doing time as a snitch instead of taking it on the chin.

The guy that ratted me out ended up getting probation for throwing me under the bus. They threatened to take the house he was dealing out of so he gave up a bunch of people, he ended up violating his prob so many times he's been locked up for almost 2 years now.

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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: vandago]
    #22833087 - 01/28/16 06:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They'll also try to get you to snitch or take a plea on a distribution charge when they know damn well the judge would be willing to drop it to a possession. They simply don't give a fuck.

Cooperating with police is one of the worst things you can do in your own case. If you're ever in a situation involving the law the best action is to shut the fuck up. Don't say shit. Let your lawyer handle everything and kick back and eat some state food and ramen. That's all you really can do. They want you to be afraid. The more you fear them, the more likely you are to roll over like a bitch.

I remember reading somewhere that like 80 percent of cases result in a plea agreement. I'm sure most of those cases could have been beaten


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Re: They're pushing for 4yrs in state penitentiary [Re: Psychonautica]
    #22833090 - 01/28/16 06:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My friend was facing a 2 year min, and kept his foot down on not dropping names nor taking the plea deal on distribution. They ended up dropping it to felony possession for 18 months of isp.

It cost him well over 10k though.  But 10k is well worth 2 year of your life.

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