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Offlinebeanchild
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cleaning cakes
    #2282399 - 01/29/04 01:44 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

when my fiend cleans his dry layer of vermiculite off his cakes before dunking he scrapes it off into a tupperware and it contains lots of fluffy mycillium so he puts the tupperware{1st time} in the incubator for a few days and today he noticed a thin white layer of mycillium on the top, it looked kinda dry and he isn't sure what to do with it???? is this a casing? should he patch?? spray?


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Re: cleaning cakes [Re: beanchild]
    #2282409 - 01/29/04 01:47 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

That would be pretty much devoid of nutrients. Wouldnt be worth messing with to fruit, although it might be usable to spawn new jars. Probably best to just toss it though.


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Re: cleaning cakes [Re: beanchild]
    #2282449 - 01/29/04 01:59 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, like Bersilak said, have some contaims in it maybe. But it wouldnt hurt to try it out and see, maybe in a different aera of house or something.


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Re: cleaning cakes [Re: andyrm66]
    #2282945 - 01/29/04 06:25 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

well when you case with just straight vermiculite isn't that void of nutrients as well? i don't get it!


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Re: cleaning cakes [Re: beanchild]
    #2283097 - 01/29/04 08:51 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

your missing the point. The casing layer is always inert, but the substrate your proposing to use is not strong enough to get fruiting even started.


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Re: cleaning cakes [Re: JetBlackNinja]
    #2283422 - 01/29/04 11:59 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

if it has since spead entirely across the surface how would it not be strong enough to fruit?


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Re: cleaning cakes [Re: beanchild]
    #2283441 - 01/29/04 12:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

The straight verm that you put on top of your cakes is ment as water storage only. Yes the myc grows thru it to reach the surface but its growing on the cake and THRU the verm not on it. There isnt anything for the mushies to get the nutrients they need from a pile of puffed rocks. thats all verm is.


Edited by Max1 (01/29/04 12:09 PM)


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Re: cleaning cakes [Re: Max1]
    #2283503 - 01/29/04 12:32 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

oklay i get it now, so i'll toss it, just an experimental question and thanks for helping me out!


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Re: cleaning cakes [Re: Max1]
    #2283506 - 01/29/04 12:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ya, what these guys are correctly stating is that these small trimmings are indeed live mycelium but too small to maintain any kind of significant fruiting.

It would be like chopping off a marble-sized piece of colonized substrate and casing it. You might indeed get a mushroom or two, but due to the scant support system, they would be almost microscopic and hardly worth the trouble except as pure entertainment.

You could use the trommings to spawn another food source, which might be worthwhile seeing as the investment would be quite small.


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Re: cleaning cakes [Re: Ben_Stein]
    #2285739 - 01/30/04 12:45 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

how would you do that prepare a pf jar as usual and then add a small peice of that leftover mycillium then incubate? sounds risky for contams!


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Re: cleaning cakes [Re: beanchild]
    #2285799 - 01/30/04 01:14 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

As an experiment to utilize the small leftover myc pieces in a newly birthed jar, one of my friends from another board came up with this:

Prepare some jars as normal, but don't innoculate. When you have a finished jar birth it, and then dump a whole uncolonized cake into the old jar and put the lid back on and back in the incubator.

I just did this with a few jars today for the hell of it. I always have sterile, uncolonized jars around for lazy mofo bags anyway. So let's see how far I can stretch a half pint of spawn.


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