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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
    #22820437 - 01/24/16 07:41 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I never isolate anything. Isolating from MS requires countless transfers and test grows. Many of those grows may not even yeild fruits. Ain't nobody got time for that shit. I take clones, either from petries or the first clusters of pins to appear on bulk subs. If a clone preforms well. There's no reason or benefit to isolate it further. If it doesn't preform well. Then it goes in the trash.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22820472 - 01/24/16 07:53 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I can't grow jack right now 'coz of a situation but I was planning on isolating from MS in the future! That's gonna save me some time and worry


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22820480 - 01/24/16 07:55 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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I never isolate anything. Isolating from MS requires countless transfers and test grows. Many of those grows may not even yeild fruits. Ain't nobody got time for that shit. I take clones, either from petries or the first clusters of pins to appear on bulk subs. If a clone preforms well. There's no reason or benefit to isolate it further. If it doesn't preform well. Then it goes in the trash.




You could always try some variation of my culture tech personalized for how you like to do things.  This ensures everything you have running out on agar is a fruiting strain, gets to sectoring much more quickly, gives you a good idea of the ones most worth testing, and ultimately involves fewer cultures running in order to find what we're looking for.  If you don't care to isolate at all, that's cool, but if you're interested but don't think it's worth the effort, it might can improve the effort/reward ratio up enough to make it worth it to you.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
    #22820485 - 01/24/16 07:57 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Ok but you will want to find at least 10 isolates and then test grow each of them. If you are lucky 1 of them might be a decent culture.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22820499 - 01/24/16 08:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, that might call for some bottle poppin :awesomenod:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
    #22820515 - 01/24/16 08:02 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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I can't grow jack right now 'coz of a situation but I was planning on isolating from MS in the future! That's gonna save me some time and worry




Better to grow MS and then pick awesome cultures from genetics that have proven to fruit well in bulk sub conditions.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22820518 - 01/24/16 08:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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I never isolate anything. Isolating from MS requires countless transfers and test grows. Many of those grows may not even yeild fruits. Ain't nobody got time for that shit. I take clones, either from petries or the first clusters of pins to appear on bulk subs. If a clone preforms well. There's no reason or benefit to isolate it further. If it doesn't preform well. Then it goes in the trash.




You could always try some variation of my culture tech personalized for how you like to do things.  This ensures everything you have running out on agar is a fruiting strain, gets to sectoring much more quickly, gives you a good idea of the ones most worth testing, and ultimately involves fewer cultures running in order to find what we're looking for.  If you don't care to isolate at all, that's cool, but if you're interested but don't think it's worth the effort, it might can improve the effort/reward ratio up enough to make it worth it to you.



It's really not somthing I have any interstate in. At least not for cubes. I may get into isolating with edibles some time in the future but for now I don't have any real use for monocultures.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22820528 - 01/24/16 08:05 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Gotcha.  Well maybe Josex might be interested in that suggestion.

The culture tech is pretty specifically designed for Cubensis. For it to work with edibles, it would have to be a culture that would pin and fruit nicely in those invitro conditions, which aren't many I believe.  I haven't put much thought into it, as I'd probably prefer to use professional cultures for those, but something using those dynamics without the specifics of that method might could be devised.  Otherwise you'd have to do it exactly as you described.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22820546 - 01/24/16 08:11 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Actually I've gotten invitro fruits from every species of edible I've grown except reishi. I have really good edible cultures already. If I were to isolate from spors it would just be for shits and giggles. I've taken a few enoki prints that I might isolate from. I know they do really well invitro.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22820549 - 01/24/16 08:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Violet, I read your posts on culturing and I found them fascinating but honestly, I'm a newbie and want to simplify things as much as possible. I will give them a try when I have some successful grows under my belt.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22820552 - 01/24/16 08:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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I never isolate anything. Isolating from MS requires countless transfers and test grows. Many of those grows may not even yeild fruits. Ain't nobody got time for that shit. I take clones, either from petries or the first clusters of pins to appear on bulk subs. If a clone preforms well. There's no reason or benefit to isolate it further. If it doesn't preform well. Then it goes in the trash.




You could always try some variation of my culture tech personalized for how you like to do things.  This ensures everything you have running out on agar is a fruiting strain, gets to sectoring much more quickly, gives you a good idea of the ones most worth testing, and ultimately involves fewer cultures running in order to find what we're looking for.  If you don't care to isolate at all, that's cool, but if you're interested but don't think it's worth the effort, it might can improve the effort/reward ratio up enough to make it worth it to you.




He will be interested in isolation for sure.

When it comes to testing cultures V-tek outperforms on so many levels.

I WISH I had done pint size PP5's (poly polypropylene containers) to test my genetics on smaller scales before I went to bulk subs.

I would have saved myself a lot of time and I would have been able to perform more experiments quicker than I do now.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22820564 - 01/24/16 08:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Actually I've gotten invitro fruits from every species of edible I've grown except reishi. I have really good edible cultures already. If I were to isolate from spors it would just be for shits and giggles. I've taken a few enoki prints that I might isolate from. I know they do really well invitro.



Invitro fruits and pins, sure, but I'm talking about observable fruiting traits in small invitro containers.  With things like Oysters that need more fresh air exchange, you wouldn't be able to get much of a good idea for their fruiting condition traits.  Speed of colonization and pinning, sure, but that's a much bigger deal with species that can have a larger speed variety like Cubensis, Shiitake, stuff like that.
With Oysters you're looking for fruit traits and yield, which would be best tested with regular grows, and getting the youngest myc you can for a master involves isolating a lot of strains right from spore as you mentioned.

But I do suppose that you can reduce the selection a good bit with my methodology, ensuring you're at least testing fruiting strains and getting a head-start idea on their colonization and pinning speed.

And now I'm thinking how it might even be a good way to look for co2-intolerant species like oysters in order to find ones that can do better with less fae... maybe.


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Thanks Violet, I read your posts on culturing and I found them fascinating but honestly, I'm a newbie and want to simplify things as much as possible. I will give them a try when I have some successful grows under my belt.



It's a pretty simple method; it's designed to be both simple and very effective without much effort or many steps. Check it out sometime! It does require something like those containers though.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22820585 - 01/24/16 08:23 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I won't be isolating oysters. I'm done with those trash fruits and there bastard spores. I spent a whole summer eating oysters every day. Just the smell of their mycelium turns my stomach now. There spores also got into everything. They contaminated a number of my cube grows.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22820592 - 01/24/16 08:24 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I'm not a huge fan.  Except Kings of course, and kindof golds.

Frankly I haven't yet found a way I liked to eat them (except kings), although I didn't try too hard I admit.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22820599 - 01/24/16 08:26 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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It's a pretty simple method; it's designed to be both simple and very effective without much effort or many steps. Check it out sometime! It does require something like those containers though.



I read it all believe me :lol: I have it bookmarked actually. I remember I read something along the lines that you think a good desirable trait to look for is when pins go out of their way to grow in places where the myc has to move water and nutrients away from the sub, maybe my wording is not correct but you get the gist.
Do you get your best cultures out of those pins?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22820614 - 01/24/16 08:30 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, my culture method has always found the best culture I've ever had with any given Cubensis variety.  But then again, for sometime about 2 years since the first time I found my best yet culture with it, I haven't bothered cloning otherwise and seldom do a regular grow-out of multi-spore.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22820630 - 01/24/16 08:33 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

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I won't be isolating oysters. I'm done with those trash fruits and there bastard spores. I spent a whole summer eating oysters every day. Just the smell of their mycelium turns my stomach now. There spores also got into everything. They contaminated a number of my cube grows.




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Yeah I'm not a huge fan.  Except Kings of course, and kindof golds.

Frankly I haven't yet found a way I liked to eat them (except kings), although I didn't try too hard I admit.




ya most oysters are just too mushroomy. the best way to cook them is in some kind of soup so the flavor gets diluted. their earthy flavor tends to overpower dishes like salads, burgers, or sandwiches.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22820637 - 01/24/16 08:35 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

Right on! I'll try it when I'm a pro if that time ever comes...


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Munchauzen]
    #22820664 - 01/24/16 08:41 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

oysters are made to be enjoyed by themselves in my opinion. When I worked in asian kitchens king oysters and other oyster varieties were roasted in a broiler at 500 degrees with top heat (after being torn down the center into more bite-size pieces) the outer layers of mycelium get toasted and dried out a little. The whole process takes about 1 minute.

After toasting they should be stiff enough to 'hold' shape but not be so dry that you can't taste the 'meatiness' to it.

Add salt and a watery soy dipping sauce on the spicy side.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Munchauzen]
    #22821117 - 01/24/16 10:42 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

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I won't be isolating oysters. I'm done with those trash fruits and there bastard spores. I spent a whole summer eating oysters every day. Just the smell of their mycelium turns my stomach now. There spores also got into everything. They contaminated a number of my cube grows.




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Yeah I'm not a huge fan.  Except Kings of course, and kindof golds.

Frankly I haven't yet found a way I liked to eat them (except kings), although I didn't try too hard I admit.




ya most oysters are just too mushroomy. the best way to cook them is in some kind of soup so the flavor gets diluted. their earthy flavor tends to overpower dishes like salads, burgers, or sandwiches.



I've put oysters in Shepard's pie with lamb. Super good.


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