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Yerba Mate. Stimulants other than caffeine?
    #2281716 - 01/28/04 08:41 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

I have heard many people tout the stimulant properties of Mate, yet with so little caffeine, is some other stimulant at work here?


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Re: Yerba Mate. Stimulants other than caffeine? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2281823 - 01/28/04 09:29 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

matteine its called. another thing is u put so much mate in a gourd that it ends up being more caffiene then u think,.

felix will tell u whats up though just wait.



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Re: Yerba Mate. Stimulants other than caffeine? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2281831 - 01/28/04 09:35 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

if i remember correctly, it's a number of xanthines (caffeine is a xanthine, a class of stimulants)...

i've had a fellow who has made a pharmacy work on extracting the mate's goodies but i don't see that guy anymore. he said it yielded much more xanthines per wheight than any other they tried also (coffee, guarana, etc).
anyways, they work much into the sythethizing and isomerizing thing, he didn't get much in details.


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Re: Yerba Mate. Stimulants other than caffeine? [Re: the man]
    #2281842 - 01/28/04 09:41 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

LOL, you're turning into a wise shaman!
the man is the man. he surprises us always. :wink:
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Re: Yerba Mate. Stimulants other than caffeine? [Re: the man]
    #2281849 - 01/28/04 09:45 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

adding a comment to what the man said on putting too much stimulating molecules whatever they are in the gourd, i think the long lasting and strength of the effects is rather due to MAO inhibition caused by tannins in the leaves.
i just don't have the least idea which MAO it inhibits, A/B...


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Re: Yerba Mate. Stimulants other than caffeine? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2282400 - 01/29/04 01:45 AM (13 years, 29 days ago)

i have also read before that mateine is teh word teh argintinians use for caffiene.

perhaps this mis translated/ mis understanding is what led to the "myth" of the alkaloid mateine.

i really dont know the facts but i do like to drink a couple glasses of mate on these -55 C nights.burrrrr

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