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DMT containing Accacias*please help*
    #2279875 - 01/28/04 06:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hi I was wandering about active acacia plants
in the wild in Western Australia.
Here is a large list of acacias from W.A. recognise any as active, ruled out or yet to be tested for tryptamines.

Acacia
  acuminata
  aciphylla
  acuaria
  ampliceps
  alata
  anastema
  aneura
  beauverdiana
  bivenosa
  blakelyi
  browniana
  burkittii
  brachystacha
  citrinoviridis
  coolgardiensis
  coriacea
  colletiodes
  cyclops
  craspedocarpa
  cuspidifolia
  cyperophylla
  delibrata
  dictyophleba
  dialata
  divergens
  drummondi
  eremaea
  ericifolia
  eriopoda
  extensa
  farnesiana
  fragilis
  grasbyi
  hemiteles
  helmsiana
  holosericea
  inaequilatera
  intorta
  kempeana
  lasiocalyx
  lasiocarpa
  ligulata
  linophylla
  littorea
  longispinea
  lycopodifolia
  lysiphloia
  monticola
  murrayana
  nervosa
  neurophylla
  orthocarpa
  oswaldii
  pachyacra
  pachycarpa
  papyrocarpa
  pentadenia
  platycarpa
  pruinocarpa
  pulchella
  pyrifolia
  quadrimargienea
  ramulosa
  resinomarginea
  rhodophlia
  rostellifera
  saligna
  sclerosperma
  scirpifolia
  sericata
  siblians
  spathulifolia
  stenophylla
  stipuligera
  subcaerulea
  suberosa
  subtesserogona
  tenussima
  tetragonophylla
  translucens
  tumida
  urophylla
    aahhggrh :nut: :shiftyeyes: 'deep breath'
  victorae
  wanyu
  xanthina
  xiphophylla

Yes all naitive to this state looks like ive got some work to do :cool:
Any body got link for IDing and testing for tryptamines?
Also post a link or cut n paste a list of actives
thanx
trev


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: trev]
    #2279880 - 01/28/04 06:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: shriek]
    #2279920 - 01/28/04 07:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for that link Ill be referring back to that often
but it had only 2 active acacias.


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: trev]
    #2281084 - 01/28/04 04:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

there's been a rumor going around about a plant called acacia rigudula(spelling) it sopposedly contains almost every tryptamine and phenethlamine (along with the poisonos ones) everything from DMT to methamphetamine, yes methamphetamine. it's not native to australia, but to western texas. i just thought this plant was intresting nonetheless. its' common name is blackbrush, and is considered a weed in texas, and there are many pesticide companies devoted to killig the thing. i believe that there was an article on lyceum about it. however, this plant is met with much skepticism, because it is said to contain things like methamphetamine, amphetamine, nicotine, DMT, 5meoDMT. almost everything.


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: llamaboy]
    #2281378 - 01/28/04 05:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

llama, thats really weird. Do you have any articles to back that up? I just find it incredibly strange for a plant to contain methamphetamine!  :eek:


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: BlowMiNose]
    #2281416 - 01/28/04 06:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

meth in a plant? no way


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: llamaboy]
    #2281431 - 01/28/04 06:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I could bel ieve the other stuff, but I would need an article for me to believe the proclamation of METH! being present in a plant!. Think about the process of makin the shit, and it happens to be present in a weed!


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: orizon]
    #2281441 - 01/28/04 06:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

just a little something...it's "ask dr. shulgin" he too is a bit skeptical.

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/acacia.htm


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: llamaboy]
    #2281465 - 01/28/04 06:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No it's true I've got a study done by Texas A&M University on this type of acacia saved somewhere..there was a post about this a while back, I had to dig around a while to find the site it came from but here:

http://uvalde.tamu.edu/pdf/chemtdaf.pdf


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: Hooty]
    #2281514 - 01/28/04 06:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

what are you talking about?! that PDF says right on it that they DO contain those alkaloids. unless i'm reading it wrong...but it says major alkaloid contents of south texas acacias....METHAMPHETAMINE and AMPHETAMINE. so according to that paper it is backed.


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: llamaboy]
    #2281614 - 01/28/04 07:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Very interesting llamaboy. Im astounded that one of the most man made sinthetic drugs I knew of happened to of popped up in a plant.


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: orizon]
    #2281908 - 01/28/04 10:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

WoW meth I have not read the link yet but I wander how to isolate the "GOODIES"
from it. If anybody knows the way to test for tryptamines ect... post up dude.
Also that first link from shreik about the aust legal highs.
READ..
Quote:


From: anonymous
Subject: Mescaline from Gum Trees
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Hi folks,

Whilst browsing chem abstracts yesterday I came across an intriguing
reference, especially for ozlanders. The Australian Dept of Defence
developed a technique for producing mescaline from eucalypt sawdust in
fairly high yield back in '64.
Here it is:

CA 61,8515
The preparation of mescaline from eucalypt lignin.
D. Amos, Dept. Supply, Defence Std Lab, Melbourne.
Australasian J. Pharm., 45, 529 (1964)

Dried Eucalyptus Regnans sawdust oxidised with nitrobenzene and alkali @
150C yielded 4% of syringaldehyde. Methylation @ 0-5C for 1hr with Me2SO4,
then heated at 70C for 1 hr gave 56% 3,4,5, trimethoxybenzaldehyde.
Converted to the cyanohydrin (ie +KCN+weak acid - jm) then reduced with
Pd black to mescaline. Overall yield 1% from dried sawdust. E. obliqua and
E. diversicolour both gave 0.7% yields.


So there you have it. Our army, or maybe ASIO, wanted a way to make vast
quantities of mescaline (we have lots and lots of E. regnans, and 1kg
sawdust ~20 doses), very cheaply (all the ingredients are chemicals of
commerce, except Pd black, which is a recyclable catalyst), from local
precursors. Which is funny, since there would have been no difficulty
importing precursors or mescaline itself in experimental quantities. Maybe
they didn't want to be reliant on foreign suppliers, or maybe they didn't
want another country to be aware they were importing mescaline by the kilo.
It sounds like we might have had our very own MK-Ultra project running at
the height of the Cold War. It would be very interesting to follow this up.
Anyone out there know if we had some monkey business going on?

Maybe they were even extracting DMT from wattles and turning it into
psilocin, eh, J?

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University of Sydney
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The tree E. diversicolour is perhaps the third largest tree in the world naitive to my hometown it is milled frequently :thumbdown: :crying: :razz:
Acess to the sawdust is easy I was wondering how to get further information on extraction mescalinof this
if its not a load of bullshit.


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: trev]
    #2288602 - 01/31/04 01:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Bump


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: trev]
    #2320597 - 02/10/04 07:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Things that go "BUMP" in the night.


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: trev]
    #2329510 - 02/13/04 05:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)



hey man. Today I just found some acacia, I need it identified though :blush:


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: Merkin]
    #2332321 - 02/13/04 10:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well my man I havnt got to that stage yet Im still looking for a known WA active
or a way to test fo tryptamines.
I know some dude dose make it locally


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Edited by trev (02/13/04 10:44 PM)


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: trev]
    #2333605 - 02/14/04 06:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea same hehe :P I've seen pics though, and I found this which looks familiar.


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: trev]
    #2333631 - 02/14/04 07:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the only way that you are going to be able to test for the tryptamine content of an acacia is to send it to a lab so that they can do a lengthy and expensive test on it. there are no home tests that will test for tryptamine content. you'd ahve to do a massspec annalsys on it. quite expensive, plus you'd have to find a lab that would be willing to run the test for you. since you are looking for something that is one of the most illegal drugs, i think that you would have a hard time findind a company that would be willing to run the test for you...i know that there are personal companies that may be willing to run the test for you, but they will require you to provide samples, and also to pay for all their hardwork that goes into the testing.


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: llamaboy]
    #3809617 - 02/21/05 04:10 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

What if I just got acacias with similar characteristics to the known actives and did the extraction on them and smoked it up? What do you think the chances are of hitting on something?


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Re: DMT containing Accacias*please help* [Re: trev]
    #3809744 - 02/21/05 05:33 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

something good?
or something... like death?
plant ID is no joke...


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