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chodamunky
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are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are?
#2275843 - 01/26/04 08:42 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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for example, if the stem is almost all a dark bluish color, does this indicate high psilocybin content? What about the smell? do stems or caps have more psolocybin? thx.
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: chodamunky]
#2275868 - 01/26/04 08:50 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: chodamunky]
#2275870 - 01/26/04 08:50 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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color isn't a good indicator at all, blue is the psilocin oxdising so it would leave me to believe that since there is alot of blue that alot of the good stuff has deteroated but then you wonder well maybe that shroom had so much more magic you couldn't help the bruising so it would be more potent cuz even though some of it oxidised it had alot more to begin with, it's all empty assumptions. stems and caps have about the same psilocybin/psilocin content on the same shroom. The best way to tell how potent they are is GC/MS but I'm guessing you don't have access to that equipment so your next best bet is to eat them and find out.
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: Ekstaza]
#2275886 - 01/26/04 08:55 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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Ekstaza said: Eat them.
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: chodamunky]
#2275887 - 01/26/04 08:56 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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or if you want, you can send a sample to me and I'll tell you how they are.
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: chodamunky]
#2275937 - 01/26/04 09:15 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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Chromatography.
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: John]
#2275940 - 01/26/04 09:16 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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color isn't a good indicator at all, blue is the psilocin oxdising so it would leave me to believe that since there is alot of blue that alot of the good stuff has deteroated is there any way to prevent psilocin oxidising? some stems are like %70 dark blue while others are almost all white/grayish. What about the smell? Mine smell sort of 'musty', quite a strong smell actually if you take a whiff. hehe, for those of you who say "Eat them!" there is no doubt that I will, but that is still another month away. God damn 2 years of looking and I finally got shrooms, 7g of them I'm so fucking excited the next month will be hell for me.
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: chodamunky]
#2275968 - 01/26/04 09:25 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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chodamunky said: God damn 2 years of looking and I finally got shrooms, 7g of them I'm so fucking excited the next month will be hell for me.
I know exactly how you feel. I spent a great deal of time and effort to learn how to identify cubes in the wild, not only to be able to eat them, but also so that I could get some spores to try my hand at growing them. When I finally found them I was ecstatic.
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: Ekstaza]
#2276036 - 01/26/04 09:52 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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oh I didn't actually find them in the wild, I live in southern ontario so there are no psilocybin species that I know of in the area (although there are a few awesome poisonous ones in the forest by my house). No no, sadly I have had the worst luck trying to obtain shrooms, you know how it goes, people say they can get them easy but in the end it's all talk. I so wish I could grow them myself but it's not a option at the moment. But all that doesn't matter, the last two years of research and info gathering will finally pay off next month
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: chodamunky]
#2277624 - 01/27/04 01:00 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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OK, I get what you are saying. I guess I don't even think about people trying to buy them where I live because here in the south east if you want them they are right outside in the field. You just have to know what to look for.
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: chodamunky]
#2277699 - 01/27/04 01:28 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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I found some strains like EQ didnt bruise as heavy as other, but where very potent.
The key to potent dried shrooms is how they where dried. Excessive bruising, brownish hints on the stems are some good hints as they sat around a little bit before they got dried.
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: baraka]
#2277837 - 01/27/04 02:11 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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hey thx for that tip, I see no brownish hints on the stems, just the caps are a pale brown which I believe is their regular color. Is it possible to over dry shrooms?
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: chodamunky]
#2278310 - 01/27/04 04:45 PM (20 years, 24 days ago) |
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There are supposed to be some active mushrooms around here somewhere, yep southern ontarian right here, dutch though. But ive yet to really find them. You can't overdry the mushrooms, once the moisture is out, its out. They wont get drier. If do decide to start to grow, drop me a pm 
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: chodamunky]
#2278322 - 01/27/04 04:49 PM (20 years, 24 days ago) |
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Well, if they look like what theyre suppose to look like then theyll work how theyre suppose to work. For Cubs, the strengths are all pretty much the same, or all are between a certain amount, like: all cubs have between xmg and ymgs. Then if you have, say, Azures, theyre a more potent variety. So youll have stronger mushrooms. And they look different, so thats one way you can tell if theyre stronger or weaker, by the speices.
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Re: are there any ways to tell how potent dried shrooms are? [Re: Northernsoul]
#2278785 - 01/27/04 07:10 PM (20 years, 24 days ago) |
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you dont want the stems to be blue because that means that they have already bruised and the psilocybin/psilocin has already oxidized.
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