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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: cronicr]
    #22611027 - 12/03/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Is this PE?
What's the sub?

I'm glad to see you doing this more! Maybe it'll pick up and get some nice force rolling, and I hope it does. Otherwise, I am disappointed for you that so far your results are looking like that.  I'm not sure why your results seem to look something like this each time.  At least I know you've seen lots of pictures from my grows, and at least several from others, that indicate that some sweet grows are possible!, and in our opinions, easy.

Maybe it's slow, or whatever else it's doing, because of the casing layer? From what I can tell at least, it looks extra extra thick.

Keep posting! Thanks!


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
    #22611043 - 12/03/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Naw it's just that noob used ms:rolleyes::rofl:


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: cronicr]
    #22611126 - 12/03/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yup casing was thick and is ms. Got overrun and started to look dry so I patched. Also PE. I'm not dissatisfied tho, that one cluster looks prime for cloning which is all I am looking for with this. Going to be testing a few more clones with this in the future as well.

I plan to do a lot of grows like this going forward, it's going to suit my current needs well.


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22611144 - 12/03/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Yup casing was thick and is ms. Got overrun and started to look dry so I patched. Also PE. I'm not dissatisfied tho, that one cluster looks prime for cloning which is all I am looking for with this. Going to be testing a few more clones with this in the future as well.

I plan to do a lot of grows like this going forward, it's going to suit my current needs well.



:manofapproval:It's what i need to do as well...i just can't afford enough containers right now:frown:


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: cronicr]
    #22629534 - 12/08/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

How's it going, Pasty?
Also what's the substrate?  WBS?

I'm glad you're not dissatisfied.  I'm just concerned that the technique might still be measured by such results. I have more often than not been underwhelmed by the majority of my own multi-spore grows with this method.  For a long time I haven't even put multi-spore cultures to full sized cakes at all!
As you probably know, I do most of what you're doing here instead with thin layers of grass seed or brown rice, invitro in pint containers.  By the time I have put a culture to a full-sized cake, I already know that it's got near top-notch speed of colonization and fruiting, and has a well above average yield capability, with a general idea as to how the fruits look and in what manner it pins and fruits.  At that point I'm just seeing how it pans out consistently on full cakes so that I can mostly eliminate the fluke factor from the initial invitro pinning speed and yield invitro test phase.  This stops me from having full cakes that I feel were a waste, which is admittedly significantly more likely with a culture crapshoot in this grow than with the coddling and playing-field-leveling condition of a bulk watermass substrate.


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
    #22629598 - 12/08/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Right now almost nothing feels like waste to me, I am blessed with abundance. I am in full on testing mode right now. Gonna see how the clones I took pan out, meanwhile some second flush pins coming in look pretty sweet as well. Might post a pic in a bit.

Sub was wheat. Casing was coir which maybe was a mistake tho I have had it work well with these in the past. Gonna keep tweaking :wink:


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22681682 - 12/20/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well those ms were not the best first flush but they keep giving. On my third now. But forget them, I was trying a few other clones and I think I got a winner. This one is known for sparse pinsets but really fatass dense fruits. I have hope that its gonna grow slow enough to really make use of the supplied water. Should be interesting. If it runs good I will do a bunch of em.



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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22774110 - 01/13/16 11:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've got plastic containers but no lids, how can I do it with foil?


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: RTB]
    #22774129 - 01/13/16 11:07 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Errr... It might work if you can REALLY seal them up with foil after inoculating.  Use plenty of foil, get them straight from the cooker into the already set up still-air box, and after inoculating make sure you crunch the foil tightly against the threads all the way around, down under the edge of the containers' holding tab thingy, and then pushed down onto the edge of the container itself, being careful not to tear it.
I don't recommend it, but it might work.  Should work, I think.

You can essentially do PF-tek style with them for sure.  BRF/verm substrate recipe, dry verm barrier, snug foil during sterilization, then inoculate thru the foil and dry verm barrier. It would make a very large cake though.  Be sure to also inoculate in the center - I hope your inoculant is mold-free! - and if you're at the stage of being able to use liquid inoculant or a tested liquid culture you'll get much faster results than waiting on a sluggish multi-spore grow-out.
When they're colonized you can remove the cover and place into fruiting conditions, treating them the same way as containers in this tek. Likely don't have to case that substrate.


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
    #22774462 - 01/13/16 01:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks, Violet. I'll post back with results of all goes well.


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: RTB]
    #22774477 - 01/13/16 01:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Please post back with results regardless!  Either way it goes, it will be good for us to know.


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
    #22774684 - 01/13/16 02:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I would suggest making a doo-rag out of heavy guage aluminum foil with a rubberband.  Press seal it for the PC run, transfer to still air box for inoculation immediately when completely cool, then rubberband under the rim of the container.


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22902656 - 02/14/16 03:38 AM (8 years, 11 days ago)



Everything went okay. Approximately 250g of rye grain colonised and then cased with a coir/soil mix that I use for cannabis; I washed the soil through a strainer to increase the coir content to approximately 50/50 and then sterilised in my PC. I must say this was such an easy tek to follow far simper than PF tek and from that pin set  I'm guessing significantly more productive.
I chose the grain over grass seed because rye grain cost me £25 for 20kg, grass seed was too expensive for me to even consider, even if it was twice or thrice as productive.

I'll be sure to return with the final results of my first flush.


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: RTB]
    #23409780 - 07/04/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I posted this on the newbie forum but maybe this is the better place to ask. This is my first grow. For a variety of reasons I started out with a bottom watering BRF "tek" in the 500ml pp5 screw top containers. This is #1 of the first two containers I 'nocced up with a honey tek about a month ago. It caught me off guard and started to pin in vitro before it got to 100% colonization. Of course I didn't even have time to case it.



It's still got this tiny bit of uncolonized substrate on the side of the container and I'm not sure if I should start bottom watering it or if that would be risking contamination. What do you guys think should I do it? I was thinking maybe I should at least wait until I see some more pins to make sure the water will be drunk up fast enough and not sit in there for too long. I think I'm only seeing about 4 mushies coming out so far.

Also, container #2 has been at 100% colonization and in consolidation for about a week and I think I'm starting to see some knotting (kinda hard to see though due to the black lid). I was thinking of going for two weeks consolidation time but seeing as how container number one is already fruiting maybe I should just case container #2 as well and put into fruiting so it doesn't sneak up on me.

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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: attfalt]
    #23423565 - 07/08/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

love these teks but it seems like there is a lot of contradictory information between your various topics, violet. in one part of one post you say no need to use a casing layer for this tek, and in another part of another post you DO recommend a casing layer for what seems like the exact same tek. having a hard time finding and deciding on ONE method, ONE "pods tek" to stick to. can you ease my confusion? feeling a bit paralyzed by the uncertainty =(


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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: La Flama Blanca]
    #23812352 - 11/08/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hi Violet,

I have a tub that stalled out somewhere in the middle.  Is it worth putting it into fruiting conditions seeing the top layers are fine?

How does GE effect colonisation times with this TEK.  I only have 1 small MP covered hole.


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Re: Biological efficiency & Yield [Re: Edmunter]
    #23822037 - 11/11/16 06:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome, thanks for sharing.


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Re: Biological efficiency & Yield [Re: wolfedawwg]
    #23839593 - 11/16/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I just read all 11 pages of this....wow.....

Maybe I missed it, but would using simply vermiculite for casing work as well or better than potting soil?


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Re: Biological efficiency & Yield [Re: Bernard]
    #23839597 - 11/16/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It never does


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Re: Biological efficiency & Yield [Re: Bernard]
    #23839644 - 11/16/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I just read all 11 pages of this....wow.....





Thats alot of paragraphs.  Nice job :thumbup:


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