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should I cold shock
    #2272701 - 01/25/04 08:03 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I have a casing and I have never cold shocked. Does cold shocking make the casing pin faster? And if so how long should I cold shock? Its sounds benaficial in cakes but does it really help out that much that its worth doing? Thanks for the info.

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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272721 - 01/25/04 08:14 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Cold shock definately induces pinning.  Just leave them in the fridge overnite (or longer if you want to hold off fruiting for a while. it's a great way to keep mycelium active yet dormant) :smile:  Whatever you do don't freeze them.  It's bad to have them under 40 degree F weather.
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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272725 - 01/25/04 08:15 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

i used to cold shock casings all the time then i would forget sometimes or just didn't have the time and the casings seemed to pin faster then when i did cold shock so i don't even bother anymore. all you gotta do is put it in the fridge overnight so just try and see if it helps it won't hurt anything, if you got bulk in a big rubbermaid it would be difficult to fit in the freezer though anyway cubes don't need cold shock


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272726 - 01/25/04 08:15 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, Cold shocking helps alot. It signals the fruit that "hey its getting winter, hurry up and fruit" Its one of the signals that cause fruiting along with co2 reduction and o2 increase...etc.:)bluhoney


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: bluhoney]
    #2272732 - 01/25/04 08:17 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

so 12 hours in the fridge or longer?

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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272735 - 01/25/04 08:19 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

i wouldn't put anything I wanted to keep CLEAN in my fridge...



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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272741 - 01/25/04 08:22 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

cubensis does not need cold shocking.


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: Hanky]
    #2272749 - 01/25/04 08:26 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

OK this is a 50/50 yes and no what the hell should I do? If I did put it in the fridge I would put it in a trash bag first

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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272750 - 01/25/04 08:27 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Make sure it's sealed in something before it goes into the fridge, I guess. Aside from introducing whatever's hanging out in there, it couldn't hurt any to try it. Right? I say do it and see if pinning happens more quickly.


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272754 - 01/25/04 08:28 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Is this your straw casing your talking about Fee?


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: BadEnglish]
    #2272768 - 01/25/04 08:37 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

nope this is my poo casing my straw I just cased 4 hours ago

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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272794 - 01/25/04 08:49 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

fee,you want to be incubating it so that the myc can mend,it wont do that in the fridge.


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: Hanky]
    #2272804 - 01/25/04 08:51 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

then why do people cold shock? I just dont really understand the whole concept
bluhoney said
"Yes, Cold shocking helps alot. It signals the fruit that "hey its getting winter, hurry up and fruit" Its one of the signals that cause fruiting along with co2 reduction and o2 increase...etc.:)bluhoney"
is this true or just an opinion?

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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272849 - 01/25/04 09:05 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

cold shocking benifits some of the other cold weather psilocybes,for some reason people decided it must be good for cubes aswell.
the misinformation has just been allowed to spread unchecked.


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: Hanky]
    #2272877 - 01/25/04 09:13 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

care to cite some refrences hanky?


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: simplemachine]
    #2272909 - 01/25/04 09:23 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

no.


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: Hanky]
    #2272918 - 01/25/04 09:26 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

good for you! Don't cave under pressure to support your opinions with factual evidence. :grin:


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: simplemachine]
    #2272924 - 01/25/04 09:29 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

fuck it I will do it it cant hurt right so how long should I do it for 12 hours?

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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272930 - 01/25/04 09:31 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe let the myc. reset (colonize patches, etc.), and then cold shock.


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Re: should I cold shock [Re: fee]
    #2272984 - 01/25/04 09:49 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

cold shock (as far as i understand) is to be performed on colonised casings that are ready to fruit or have and are on latter flushes

the "cold shock" (fridge time) is meant to help the mycellium start an even pinset by encouraging it to pin as a response to the cold. cold can also be used to further entice mycellium that isnt fruiting to fruit (after harassment by contams or mistakes etc)

if you just cased it 4 hours ago then the mycellium hasnt had time to patch itself and spread through the casing so cold shocking will only slow the growth of the myc through the poo or whatever... hence hanky ses wait till its FINISHED incubating (a week or so from now?) and THEN cold shock... before its journey to the moist environment

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