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Shroomism
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Zero7a1]
#2273073 - 01/25/04 10:19 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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no one needs to stand up for me. we all have opinions. and I'm sure we all think that our opinions are valid. well they are, everyone's reality is valid. I'm aquarius, I have to propose crazy ideas. It's pure instinct. But does snide remarks or cynicism stop me. No, because it is tuned out. water off the ducks back. no harm, no foul. It's all fair in creation and destruction. but obviously its gonna take more then 4 years of skeptic clawing to change my mind. maybe I think the way I do for a reason
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Zero7a1]
#2273091 - 01/25/04 10:25 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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shroomism speaks truth regardless. Ostracisizing your fellow man is going to get you no where. Coming to a place with an open atmosphere and criticizing people for preposing outlandish ideas is somewhat hypocritical dont you think?
I'm not criticizing him for expressing ideas, that's great. However, I am hesitant when he posts ideas that are cultish and potentially harmful (as SWAMI demonstrated) and then is greeted with ditoheads.
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Maybe he is trying to teach you compassion. Maybe he is an alien, like me, someone who does not come from rest of the world?
Or are you too an outcast and you cannot come to grips with it?
Appeal to something. Yes, I am an outcast. I am not automatically your brethren because of this and outcasts do not have universal opinions.
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I do understand coming to hasty ideas about things that seem so hard to prove to us through methods of the status quo seem "crazy", but wtf? Why should we say "you crazy nut, this is meaningless, all mindles, all of you?"... Whats the point of trying to say these things anywaY?
I want people to think for themselves. I detect that this is not occuring. If people want to believe this, that's fine.
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If you cant accept it, why feel the need to come around ranting about it? You dont seem shroomism posting in your threads telling you that you dont make sense, when in fact your ideaologies could be just as baseless as the ones you call him on?
I would expect him to. If I post bullshit, I want to know. If I post something true, it will withstand scrutiny.
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Im sorry, but to see here and see this go on without any sort of acknowledgement would be to do a disservice to not just shroomism, but everyone on here.
I see this happen everywhere. I dont hold anything personal to you, or phluck, but i just hope that you be more considerate when considering other peoples information.
cool.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Shroomism]
#2273093 - 01/25/04 10:25 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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that beta brainwave thing is pretty cool
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Shroomism]
#2273097 - 01/25/04 10:26 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just want ya to know that I don't have anything against ya, and just because I joke about your ideas doesn't mean I don't think there's any validity to them. I just don't see any evidence to support them. I just wonder where you get these strange ideas. And when I say "evidence" I'm not just talking about the scientific kind either. There is nothing in my personal experience, in any mind state, to suggest that aliens from another dimension trying to contact us(well, there was the strange voices when I took 5 grams, but they were speaking English).
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Shroomism
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: SpecialEd]
#2273098 - 01/25/04 10:26 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please explain what I am posting that is cultish and possibly harmful to anyone.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Shroomism]
#2273110 - 01/25/04 10:28 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am just waiting for "evidence" of what Shroomism suggests. It sounds cool, but I haven't seen any evidence.
This makes me understand why the non-Christians scoff at the Christians, in a way. We say "there is a God!", and the skeptics come out of the closet.
I'm not asking for proof just because there are skeptics asking for truth about the exitence of God, and I have a partially open mind to the existence of aliens, but is there any proof? Or do we just accept what Shroomism says at word value?
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SpecialEd
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Shroomism]
#2273111 - 01/25/04 10:29 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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That would almost be slightly accurate if phi, zappa, or chi were brainwaves.
It was an attempt at humorous obfuscation. See "The point will come later."
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Regardless, humankind is currently undergoing a dramatic evolution.. of which the effects will become apparent quite rapidly.
Humans have always been undergoing dramatic evolution, such is the nature of this beast.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Shroomism]
#2273114 - 01/25/04 10:29 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomism said: Please explain what I am posting that is cultish and possibly harmful to anyone.
Well, it does sound a bit like the Heaven's Gate mumbo-jumbo. And it's not that the ideas you're expressing are harmful in and of themselves, but the way people here seem to blindly accept them without requiring any evidence suggests that they might follow you to the same end that the Heaven's Gate people met.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Shroomism]
#2273120 - 01/25/04 10:32 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please explain what I am posting that is cultish and possibly harmful to anyone.
This post could be the groundwork for a cult. First, we are confronting our fear of the aliens, next we are drinking cyanide to prepare for their arrival.
Probably this is not your intent, but I must say, you posess every quality to make a good cult leader. You are intelligent, articulate, and people listen to you. All I am saying is that you could lead people astray if you weren't careful.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Zero7a1]
#2273121 - 01/25/04 10:32 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Or are you too an outcast and you cannot come to grips with it?"
Maybe you're just as normal as everyone else, but are having trouble accepting that. It's actually pretty rare to meet anyone who doesn't think of themselves as an outcast, or special somehow.
"You dont seem shroomism posting in your threads telling you that you dont make sense, when in fact your ideaologies could be just as baseless as the ones you call him on?"
If I ever post anything that is baseless, I want people to come and criticize me. If I'm not thinking critically, I definately need other people to step in and show me where I've gone wrong.
"Whats the point of trying to say these things anywaY?"
What's the point in discussing anything? Do I have to agree with everything everyone says? If I don't, am I not allowed to express that opinion? Is free speech only allowed unless it might hurt someone's feelings?
If we didn't demand evidence to back up claims people made, doctors would still be using bloodletting as a cure for everything, without washing their hands. We'd still be thinking that the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around us.
Evidence is what separates information from fantasy.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Shroomism]
#2273123 - 01/25/04 10:33 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomism have you attempted any teleportation lately? I visited you recently, probably couldn't tell it was me... but... I was aware of your record deal.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: silversoul7]
#2273131 - 01/25/04 10:36 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't take offense to it, really. You guys can say whatever the fuck you want to me..if I feel offended I will make sure you know. I'm used to having my ideas dissected by now, in fact I expect it.
As for my strange ideas, they are embedded into the fiber of my being. Let's just say I came here for a reason, and I can't leave until I have accomplished my mission.
The evidence is not objective at first, in fact, contact is a very personal, and therefore, subjective experience. It is a series of revelations and insights we come to upon ourselves that is the precursor and often result of first contact. Thus, contact is a very personal journey of discovery, reflection, and insight. As we begin to awaken to new levels of reality, we also encounter beings residing in those realities. Such is life.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Phluck]
#2273132 - 01/25/04 10:37 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's actually pretty rare to meet anyone who doesn't think of themselves as an outcast, or special somehow.
Well, on a message board it is. I think if you asked my brother, he would tell you that he was never an outcast. He was always in the popular crowd, always got along great with people, always had luck with the girls. Well, anyway, long story short, I hate him. (j/k)
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Zero7a1]
#2273139 - 01/25/04 10:41 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some more:
"Coming to a place with an open atmosphere and criticizing people for preposing outlandish ideas is somewhat hypocritical dont you think?"
How about coming to an a place with an open atmosphere and telling us that we aren't allowed to voice opposing viewpoints?
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: SpecialEd]
#2273153 - 01/25/04 10:45 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just don't see where I can go wrong teaching to embrace life and diversity, and spread love, acceptance, truth, wisdom, and all that is noble. Light is pretty much foolproof. Free will man. Why the fuck would we drink cyanide, if I'm going to ascend I'm doing it the old fashioned way... consciously leaving my body through sheer will alone after accumulating enough wisdom through life experience. I don't want to start a cult. I want to create a society based upon the universal truths of love, free will, life, and the pursuit of motherfucking happiness. I want a revolution. I want global transformation. What I don't want is people killing themselves. Suicide is against life. You can do whatever you want with your life, but I would never endorse such an act of self-destruction. And frankly when people compare me with a suicide cult leader, instead of listening to what I have to say, that does offend me. You people are jumping to conclusions. I'm not asking people to blindly accept every word that I write.. I am putting my reality out on this line and seeing who feels my vibration. People don't believe things unless they have good reason to, and that is usually based on intuitive, life experiences where universal "truths" were learned, anyone who blindly believes everything they hear from some wacko on the internet, has bigger problems then listening to me yap about aliens and higher dimension. I'm merely acting as a breaker of the mold. I am NOT, however, attempting to teach anything except free will, free thought, and the people taking responsibility for their thoughts and actions. I only present what's going on in my head. The only type of leader I want to be is the type that helps people find the god within themselves. end of transmission.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Shroomism]
#2273163 - 01/25/04 10:48 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I no i dont need to stand up for you. I think I need to stand up for anyone when i think they are trying to ignore the fact that we are all pretty much experiencing the same world, and not to deny that
Special Ed - you and anyone is my bretheren because we share a common trait, we are human. We live on this planet together.
It is my responsibility, and my own personal belief that i ought to show people that we are all here together. ive seen too many things go wrong between people for the stupidest of reasons, beliefs or not, people have fought and killed eachother because of simply what they think they know and others do not.
Im going to allude this back to shroomism's questions, how does this bring about cultish activity?
I credit your intentions in trying to keep harsh unthinking individuals from killing one another, but this is not the case, and to me a little extreme as a reason.
but thats not why i wanted to post this response, and beyond that i shall end this process of thought.
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silversoul7
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Shroomism]
#2273167 - 01/25/04 10:49 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't want to start a cult.
Odd, since your screenname itself suggests a new religion. BTW, it's not your ideas themselves which concern me. It's the way people are swallowing them whole without questioning them. That's what seems cultish about this. It isn't you. It's the unquestioning way people are responding.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: silversoul7]
#2273186 - 01/25/04 10:54 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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silversoul7 said: Just want ya to know that I don't have anything against ya, and just because I joke about your ideas doesn't mean I don't think there's any validity to them. I just don't see any evidence to support them. I just wonder where you get these strange ideas. And when I say "evidence" I'm not just talking about the scientific kind either. There is nothing in my personal experience, in any mind state, to suggest that aliens from another dimension trying to contact us(well, there was the strange voices when I took 5 grams, but they were speaking English).
try practicing astral projection....for a start...thats where you will find some evidence.
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: silversoul7]
#2273198 - 01/25/04 10:57 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, shroomism is MY religion. Form your own.
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silversoul7
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Re: The aliens are coming! [Re: Vulture]
#2273205 - 01/25/04 11:01 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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silversoul7 said: Just want ya to know that I don't have anything against ya, and just because I joke about your ideas doesn't mean I don't think there's any validity to them. I just don't see any evidence to support them. I just wonder where you get these strange ideas. And when I say "evidence" I'm not just talking about the scientific kind either. There is nothing in my personal experience, in any mind state, to suggest that aliens from another dimension trying to contact us(well, there was the strange voices when I took 5 grams, but they were speaking English).
try practicing astral projection....for a start...thats where you will find some evidence.
Ok, so you're telling me to do something, for which there is no proof of its validity, and even if it is real, I have no idea how to do it. Ok.
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