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 sterilizing my portable greenhouse 
#22693220 - 12/23/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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if there is already content on this let me know, and I'll ask no further questions.
I got one of those multi-tier green houses that are nice as a little clean room.
so I live in a place with mold, it's very evident if I leave bread out for a couple days.
I was wondering if it's best to put the greenhouse in a place like my bedroom closet that I dont really open, it stays very warm, and not much movement in the room usually.
and would it be possible to just make a dilute solution of isopropyl alcohol with mainly water and use a spray bottle to spray the entire inside, then let it dry and air out and keep it shut other than when I'm messing with the insides wearing sterilized gloves.
I just want to make sure my first go with the green house goes well
I have two nice spawn bags colonizing and plenty of substrate and casing to fill this nice little plastic tub that'll fit perfectly on one of the shelves.
tldr:
could I sterilize the inside of my greenhouse with an isopropyl alcohol dilute solution misted inside and allowed to evaporate?
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22693247 - 12/23/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You'll never be able to "sterilize" a green house. You can sanitize it but even that's not really nessicery. You can't keep it closed off. Mushrooms need a constant suply of fresh air to grow properly and fresh air contains a fuck ton of mold spores. Trying to keep a green house "sterile" is prrtty much imposible.
Just do your best to keep your grow room clean and as dust free as posible.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22693613 - 12/24/15 04:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Learn to use a SAB well. Get your sterile technique down so you can produce clean cultures to create clean spawn with. Clean spawn goes a very long way in the prevention of contamination, regardless of environment.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22696007 - 12/24/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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On another note
I have two bags of rye, a pound each spawning currently, menace and treasure coast or golden teacher, cant remember.
once both of those are fully colonized, I want to break up each bag individually and mix it with 2.5lb of my sterilized mushroom compost.
Once that's fully colonized can I pour both bags into a single proper-sized rubbermaid tub, that i'd sterilize, and then just put the sterilized casing over that, put that in my greenhouse and leave the lid off
i shouldnt need fans just a humidifier and a light
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22696023 - 12/24/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
teefizzle said:
once both of those are fully colonized, I want to break up each bag individually and mix it with 2.5lb of my sterilized mushroom compost.
Once that's fully colonized can I pour both bags into a single proper-sized rubbermaid tub, that i'd sterilize
OMG stop sterilizing things! lol
The compost should be pasteurized, not sterilized.
And you are not going to sterilize the tub.....sanitize maybe, sterilize no.
You sterilize with heat or filtration.
You sanitize with chemicals.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22696179 - 12/24/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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pretend i said sanitize, but i do appreciate the clearing that up for me.
oh and im just saying that because I bought the mushroom compost and casing from a place that sells it in sealed bags with filter patches
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22696493 - 12/24/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pasteurize, sanitize, sterilize are all very different things.
It's important to know the distinction or you could end up doing some weird things to your substrate/spawn.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22696945 - 12/24/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, no doubt you are correct
thank you
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22696990 - 12/24/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The only thing you should ever be spraying on a contam is h2o2, and that is only effective on cobweb mold.
Let me know what's on your mind before you try anything else drastic. I'm around often enough to get back at least 2 or 3 times a day. I check this place pretty often.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22697041 - 12/24/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah getting cobweb mild isn't that bad
If you can stop the spreading in one location using h2o2
Your tub has a good chance to fruit normally.
Edited by Psilosoulful (12/25/15 12:00 AM)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22697076 - 12/25/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheEaglesGift said:
The only thing you should ever be spraying on a contam is h2o2, and that is only effective on cobweb mold.
Let me know what's on your mind before you try anything else drastic. I'm around often enough to get back at least 2 or 3 times a day. I check this place pretty often.
I may have meant this post for a different thread, sorry OP.
It's that xmas even insanity going on. I should probably log off. 
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22707603 - 12/27/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah I was confused.
I thought I might have mentioned that I've used a dilute Hydrogren Peroxide solution sprayed on my cactus seedlings to kill mold, but I dont think it's going to be an issue.
the 4ft tall greenhouse fits perfectly in the closet, now I need to get my t5 array, a humidifier, and a thermometer/humidity meter
*and one of my spawn bags seemed to plateau on one third of the rye, and it was colonized on those specific berries to the point where you could only see white, like fully filled in with myc.
so I decided to test with one of the bags and leave the other, which is going through a similar situation untouched.
I have read doing this too early can stall the spawning so I don't want to sound like I advocate this.
but I kinda crumbled and shoot the berries up to spread it all around, and there's now thick pieces of mycelium throughout. I then squished it back into it's original square shape and placed it back in the greenhouse.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22734299 - 01/04/16 12:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It seemed to have worked, breaking it up and mixing the rye berries to evenly distribute myc.
they recovered after a couple days and i should have solid white bags in a week or so I think.
I am really debating on casing both strains in an aluminum pan that fits perfectly on the shelves of my greenhouse.
where should I buy those? (any shroomery sponsors?)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22734331 - 01/04/16 01:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just got these
"Full Size Foil Steam Table Pan 3 3/8" Deep - 10 / Pack"
so I can two per level of my green house, and get a second greenhouse eventually.
So Ideally I'd like to have 16 of those pans, but I need to get a lot of spawn made.
**are these pans deep enough, i forgot to check!
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy] 1
#22734336 - 01/04/16 01:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Use a plastic liner in those pans. Metabolites will eat holes in the aluminum.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
#22734346 - 01/04/16 01:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks, I would have never expected that, here's a new picture of my spawn bags.
*and I ordered a humidifier, and a humidity auto controller so i dont have to open the greenhouse at all ideally (as little as possible)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22734349 - 01/04/16 01:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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am I mistaken, or once I have my bulk substrate fully colonized, the casing process is much less likely to have some, say mold start growing since it's all mycelium at that point, besides the casing layer but it's virtually all myc-colonized.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
#22734371 - 01/04/16 01:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
MudaFuka said:
Use a plastic liner in those pans. Metabolites will eat holes in the aluminum.
would a trash bag be fine? it'd be fresh out of the roll so it'd probably be fine, and once I've got it laid in the tray I can wipe it down with isopropyl and let that evaporate then continue with my business.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22734381 - 01/04/16 01:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stop worrying about contams so much. Don't whipe you liner with anything. Your substrate ìs going to be exposed to millions of mold spores once you open thos bags and make your trays and they will be in constant contact with mold spores throughout the fruiting process. Mushrooms need fresh air to grow and in that fresh air are all kinds of contaminants. Luckily once your substrate is fully colonised it is contam resistant.
Yes garbage bags work fine.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy] 1
#22734546 - 01/04/16 04:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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teefizzle said:
*and I ordered a humidifier, and a humidity auto controller so i dont have to open the greenhouse at all ideally (as little as possible)
Ideally you want a tons of constant FAE, not humidity.
With tons of FAE will come tons of evaporation, which in turn will raise the RH.
So you may want to keep the GH open a bit.
Please do not focus on keeping an extremely high RH in the GH, as this will not leave any room in the air for evaporation.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22734738 - 01/04/16 06:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Most ppl with a GH either cut slits in it or leave it unzipped a bit.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: bodhisatta]
#22735124 - 01/04/16 09:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So, its been about a week and your spawn bags have net yet fuly recovered.
My fiance and I both agree that the grains look too wet in those bags.
The mycelium is like a blob rather than rhizomorphic in appearance.
The myc. should be trying to colonize that grain with vigor rather than refraining from it.
That bag looks like it is a premade bag... judging by the seal and the injection port.
That means you had to inoculate the bag with spores from syringe?....or did you start from Liquid Culture?
Did you do the inoculation in open air or in a still air box?
How did you sterilize your inoculation equipment?
A garbage bag will do fine as a liner.
for a martha or similar fruiting chamber, one must provide a TON of fresh air FAE to the greenhouse. Like PF (gunny) said... evaporation is a good thing.
Evaporation from the substrate surface coaxes pins to form. wicking moisture from the sub helps form the pins. the trick is to have the fresh air coming at a good RH already. that way it wont dry out your sub too fast. so the humidifier is a good idea... if its a coolmist type. this will provide humid FAE.
One of the biggest reasons your FC grow will contam is when we give it the perfect conditions to contam.... which is stagnant and humid air.
Placing a colmist humidifier in a FC and opening the FC door slightly or cutting slits into the sides will provide the FAE you need.
You will still have to consider how to get your FC up to 95%+ RH to allow for pinhead initiation.
I digress
To clean your FC, spray it down with a dilute solution of bleach and make sure you get every little hole in the plastic. I disassemble mine completely to ensure the best cleanliness. Bleach, alcohol, I read once that you can spray vinegar, then spray H2O2 then wipe it up and its as clean as we can possibly make a surface.
good luck
just 
Edited by Jabensis (01/04/16 09:48 AM)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Jabensis]
#22735855 - 01/04/16 01:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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started the inoculation by injecting spores from a syringe into a presterilized bag, i sterilized my equipment
I like the idea of leaving the zipper a little open and having the humidifier in there.
I keep the green house in the closet of a room that has low air disturbance.
and the bags did seem to stall at around 60% so I had mixed them up and they have begun to recover and are colonizing more evenly throughout the entire bag, so I believe I have no issues there, and will be fully colonized in a couple days.
Now I need to worry about if my spawn + bulk substrate will be enough to fill those pans, but I'll do the math later I'm too stoned 
Edited by AgingHippy (01/04/16 02:40 PM)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22735859 - 01/04/16 01:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
PussyFart said:
Quote:
teefizzle said:
*and I ordered a humidifier, and a humidity auto controller so i dont have to open the greenhouse at all ideally (as little as possible)
Ideally you want a tons of constant FAE, not humidity.
With tons of FAE will come tons of evaporation, which in turn will raise the RH.
So you may want to keep the GH open a bit.
Please do not focus on keeping an extremely high RH in the GH, as this will not leave any room in the air for evaporation.
this post I found very helpful, very to the point and clearly stated, I really appreciate it.
I will make sure it doesn't get too humid for the moisture to evaporate and ill keep my green house a bit open
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22736116 - 01/04/16 03:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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okay, so once I have my pans plastic-lined and cased, should I still mist the surface if I have a humidifier in the green house?
I was thinking have the humidifier on long enough to get moisture on the surface of the casing, then the light will come on and cause the moisture to evaporate, with the green house side cracked, for the FAE mentioned.
I want to try to avoid having to mist it
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22736362 - 01/04/16 04:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you have your FAE and RH propperly balanced. There should be no need for misting. If your substrates start to look dry feel free to mist though.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
#22737812 - 01/04/16 11:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, I will be very attentive.
as for light when fruiting, I'm planning on doing 12hr on/off cycle on a timer.
For the humidifier though, I have purchased a device that is a humidity sensor and you can hook a basic humidifier (which ive purchased) which it will act as a controller for.
The humidifier turns on when it senses that it needs to depending on what you set, you guys know how they work.
so after I get everything from the various places I ordered from I should be good to go and actually get my hands dirty.
I'm honestly really excited, been here so long and haven't really put my full time and effort into trying to do this right.
*does anyone use those uv light microbe-killing devices in their grow room?
sorry kind of a random question.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22738158 - 01/05/16 01:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use a uv-c light to inoculate. And to kill anything on any surface I get concerned about. Not sure if it does anything.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Maxpow]
#22740204 - 01/05/16 03:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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how much did you spend on it? even a small cheap one might be beneficial for a small spawn area?
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Maxpow]
#22740215 - 01/05/16 03:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
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I use a uv-c light to inoculate. And to kill anything on any surface I get concerned about. Not sure if it does anything.
How does it know not to kill your spores or mycellium as well?
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22740271 - 01/05/16 03:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's in like a box and cycles the room's air through it. The light is contained inside the box, so only anything floating in the air would be exposed.
(the one I was referring to)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22740473 - 01/05/16 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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https://vid.me/BXED
quick video showing the progress of my spawn bags
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22740501 - 01/05/16 04:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That was disappointing. Thought it was gonna be a time lapse or something.
Looks ready to be broken up if you hadn't already.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MajorDick]
#22740683 - 01/05/16 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i just broke them up a couple days ago and they're recovering, but i might break up the left one a little more.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22740728 - 01/05/16 05:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I broke them up and mixed the berries thoroughly so the myc is distributed evenly.
I also put a heating pad made for starting seeds on the tray that the spawn bags are now sitting on.
I figured since they're tropical strains if they stay around 90f they should do better, right?
dont want them to get too hot
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22740750 - 01/05/16 05:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Noooooo. 80 max. Indirect heat.
Is that thing in your cold garage or basement? Indoor room temp is best. Put then on your fridge or behind the TV if you want.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MajorDick]
#22740767 - 01/05/16 05:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Never ever use a heating pad. I don't let my shit get above 75.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
#22741227 - 01/05/16 07:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok they arent directly on the heating pad, im just gonna use it when its especially cold
i have them sitting on the top of a monotub lid ontop of the heating mat
gonna unplug it now
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22741307 - 01/05/16 07:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Never heat your grow. If it's too cold heat the room. 68 to 75 F is perfect. A bit colder than that is fine but will be slower. Hotter than that and your contam rates will go up. Growth will also slow if your Temps are too high. If I couldn't get my Temps below 80F, I wouldn't even bother growing.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
#22741729 - 01/05/16 08:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i could always heat it by putting the heating mat on the ground under my grow tent, so the heat can radiate upwards?
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22741978 - 01/05/16 09:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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FAE is important also in fighting contams. Mold prefer stagnant air. Ditch the heater. I've found colder grows to give denser fruits. A warmer room may seem like it cause more growth which in height it will but most of the time the stems are hollow taking a large amount of weight out. Plus my preference is dense fungus when I eat them.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: zepski]
#22742000 - 01/05/16 10:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hiw cold us your room that you need to heat it. If you can stand being in there without a jacket on. It's warm enough fir cubes.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
#22742047 - 01/05/16 10:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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the problem with heating pads is you're heating the shit closer to the pad (heat source), and it's not a temperature you can monitor and control. Controlling room temperature will be more even from top to bottom of the jars, and much easier to control.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
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Hiw cold us your room that you need to heat it. If you can stand being in there without a jacket on. It's warm enough fir cubes.
Right? Ive left contaminated subs on my porch in the fall. Ive seen subs manage to pin in very chilly temps, low 50s
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: mushpunx]
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It's hard for noobs to drop the heating pads.......
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
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i like to put them on my chair when im at my sab, nice warm ass while i work so they have there perks.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: cronicr]
#22742443 - 01/06/16 12:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I somtimes use mine to help maintain temperature when I pasteurize in totes.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
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I somtimes use mine to help maintain temperature when I pasteurize in totes.
great idea!
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
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It's hard for noobs to drop the heating pads.......
choosing less abrasive language helps convey your knowledge to others more easily, but if that's not your goal then my bad.
but I've learned a lot from this thread and really appreciate everyone's input.
the room in the winter can get quite cold, but i have already lost the heating pad and will just insulated my bedroom windows better and keep the radiator at a hotter temperature when im done, since i normally turn it down.
everything seems to be going great right now, already moved my bulk mushroom compost into the fridge from the freezer, and will be removing it from there to warm to room temperature, then in a clean environment, i plan on taking my fully colonized rye berries, with gloves, mixing them in with the compost evenly as possible.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22745233 - 01/06/16 06:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't know you paid us to be your PC college professors. Silver platter delivery isnt a shroomery perk.
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It's hard for noobs to drop the heating pads.......
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: bodhisatta]
#22745246 - 01/06/16 06:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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alright everyone that has contributed more than one post so far will get a peyote seed?
and if you dont want to contribute any more, your help has been appreciated thus far and you can stop helping at any point.
I don't want anyone to feel obligated to help me. I'm a gentlemen, I assure you. And I believe you must have recognized it a bit, it taking one to know one and all hah hah
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22745824 - 01/06/16 08:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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teefizzle said:
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PussyFart said:
It's hard for noobs to drop the heating pads.......
choosing less abrasive language helps convey your knowledge to others more easily
If that was abrasive you're in for a world of hurt.
lol
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22745868 - 01/06/16 08:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is nothing offensive in that statement. Noob isn't an insult. It's just what you are. We were all noobs at some point.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22745976 - 01/06/16 08:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ACTUALLY
Get a big ass steam tub made from a suit-steamer and a giant ice-cooler to steam sterilize (8 hours) the entire setup every 2 weeks.
Fuck that idea.
Just run a hardcore fucking steamer inside the greenhouse every two weeks for 8 hours and sanitize the outside with alcohol or bleach or something.
Literally: Greenhouse Sterilization.
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Better make sure you find a kickass steamer though. If the heating elemenet isn't hot enough to bring all the air above 100C then you're not going to be sterilizing anything inside, even running it for 8 hours or more.
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i clean my gh after every grow, sporeload clean up time!
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: cronicr]
#22746097 - 01/06/16 09:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I cleaned my green house once I think.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22746124 - 01/06/16 09:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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PussyFart said:
It's hard for noobs to drop the heating pads.......
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MudaFuka said:
I somtimes use mine to help maintain temperature when I pasteurize in totes.
 fucking grate idea.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22746137 - 01/06/16 09:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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teefizzle said:
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PussyFart said:
It's hard for noobs to drop the heating pads.......
choosing less abrasive language helps convey your knowledge to others more easily
If that was abrasive you're in for a world of hurt.
lol
I've only seen negativity from your end. I was surprised you were a moderator when instead of contributing or leaving me alone, you choose to make comments like those you have.
not mad just observing
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22746139 - 01/06/16 09:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay but what about my idea of steaming from the inside.
Be cool guys. 
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Put a beaker of formaldehyde on a hot plate with a remote switch.
http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/ac802e/ac802e0j.htm
Right now there's a page 4 with no posts yet
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (01/06/16 09:41 PM)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: bodhisatta]
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tiger steaming would work just fine as well
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: bodhisatta]
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Put a beaker of formaldehyde on a hot plate with a remote switch.
http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/ac802e/ac802e0j.htm
Right now there's a page 4 with no posts yet
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22746296 - 01/06/16 10:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was surprised you were a moderator
Me 2
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22746321 - 01/06/16 10:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i am surprised i am still a mod lol
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: bodhisatta]
#22748231 - 01/07/16 12:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Put a beaker of formaldehyde on a hot plate with a remote switch.
http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/ac802e/ac802e0j.htm
Right now there's a page 4 with no posts yet
then i have formaldehyde vaporizing in my home? how long til i develop cancerous growth?
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22748391 - 01/07/16 01:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not soon enough, who said to breathe it in.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: bodhisatta]
#22748764 - 01/07/16 03:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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nobody, I was being presumptuous i guess
anyway
im thinking a couple more days before I mix them into the mushroom compost
**and the heating mat is not plugged in
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22749403 - 01/07/16 05:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I find the cat in your signature and your lack of faith in the mods disturbing.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Mr. Alien]
#22750991 - 01/08/16 01:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have no lack of faith in the mods.
Show me where I lacked faith in the moderators.
I pointed out that one wasn't contributing, but I'm fine with it and we've moved on.
anyway,
I need more spawn, thinking about just getting two per tray, with like 8 trays
although that is kinda of overkill because I probably won't even be able to fit it all if i spawn to the full amount of bulk substrate
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
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I have no lack of faith in the mods.
Show me where I lacked faith in the moderators.
I pointed out that one wasn't contributing, but I'm fine with it and we've moved on.
But I did contribute....check the first page.
Solid advice/info was given.
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Edited by PussyFart (01/08/16 03:42 AM)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22752488 - 01/08/16 01:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah you did, my bad
so i should wait til the bags are like super white before breaking them up to mix with my bulk substrate right?
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22752550 - 01/08/16 01:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Every single grain should be colonised by mycelium before spawning.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
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so i should wait til the bags are like super white before breaking them up to mix with my bulk substrate right?
Giving the bags an extra couple of days after the outside is completely colonized is best.
You want to make sure all the inner grains get equally colonized as well.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22759637 - 01/09/16 10:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah my laziness will probably result in that anyway, but solid advice, I was thinking that might be the best idea.
here's a photo of them now, i had to re-crumble the left one because one spot wasn't colonizing still, but it's recovering well since i just did that today.
the right is looking better.
The right is treasure coast and the left is menace
they are getting noticeable humid in the bags, like drops of water on the sides and all.
do i have to worry about rot within the short time until they're ready to bulk spawn?
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22776795 - 01/13/16 11:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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so i broke it all up evenly and mixed it evenly with the bulk mushroom compost and re-selaed the bags and placed them on the top shelf of the GH with the heat pad momentarily on on the middle level, below the bags and a layer of plastic from an upside down lid on which they reside atop.
so very indirect heating, but it's getting pretty uncomfortably cold in my grow room in particular with this weather so it wont hurt.
*it was 5lb of bulk mushroom compost that i mixed half with one of the spawn bags, half with another.
I kind of liked the idea of just mixing both strains, or doing them side by side in a single, plastic-lined aluminum serving trays.
I'm kinda trying to do the math in my head to see if it's be enough to fill up the volume in the aluminum tray, but i have 5 lbs of mushroom compost, and 2 lbs of myc-covered rye berries, plus the big of dirt for the casing layer on top.
it's about 3.25 dollar bills long and a half bill tall (the aluminum trays)
i figure instead of fruiting in the bags i made with the compost, I might be better off casing into the trays for better FAE while in the green house, and just the pure increase in surface area makes me want to believe the more growth in general.
Edited by AgingHippy (01/13/16 11:40 PM)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22776908 - 01/14/16 12:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you are going to fruit in the trays. You better get your substrate in them before it starts colonising. You don't want to break the mycelium up again after spawning.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
#22776931 - 01/14/16 12:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok well i dont have plastic lining right now, and my humidifier hasn't shown, so I guess I'll just do these two in the bags I put them in, with a little layer of casing dirt stuff ontop once it's fully colonized, then mist the surface and let it evaporate with a cfl over it right?
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22776947 - 01/14/16 12:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't know what casing dirt stuff isbut yeah that sounds about right.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
#22776961 - 01/14/16 12:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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the casing layer you put over the colonized bulk substrate, that you mist.
it came in my kit 
dont most people use a casing layer in their grows?
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22777561 - 01/14/16 08:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah. I was just messing with you a bit. Moste people case with peat moss, vermiculite, coir or jiffy mix. I've never heard of anyone using dirt stuff. I'm sure it's fine though.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: MudaFuka]
#22777581 - 01/14/16 08:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've used dirt before lol. I call it the poor man's casing. Even used ground up egg shells for it once, which was a pain in the ass to make, but it's also a very cheap way of getting lime
Edited by Mad Season (01/14/16 08:23 AM)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Mad Season]
#22778041 - 01/14/16 11:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've used dirt before lol. I call it the poor man's casing. Even used ground up egg shells for it once, which was a pain in the ass to make, but it's also a very cheap way of getting lime
Just had a montage go through my head of all the various things I would try to do to get egg shells into little pieces. All of it hilarious and not very productive. What method did you go with?
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Mad Season]
#22780560 - 01/14/16 10:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've used dirt before lol. I call it the poor man's casing. Even used ground up egg shells for it once, which was a pain in the ass to make, but it's also a very cheap way of getting lime
ground up egg shells sounds pretty cool, get a mortar and pistil
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22780933 - 01/15/16 01:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Casings are not required for cubes.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: zepski]
#22790440 - 01/17/16 01:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh okay, then I guess I'll just leave it as is
anyway, lot's of humidity in the bag, but the growth i can see is pure white, doesnt smell like mold, and near the edge of the bag it like has these snowflake kinda patterns of white
it's hard to see in this picture
the flash really highlights the humidity, should i breath the bags or wait til its fully colonized, then get a light on it, take the tops off the bags and just let them sit in the greenhouse for some FAE.
might have to mist these first couple blocks before my humidifier shows.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22790457 - 01/17/16 01:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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anyway, lot's of humidity in the bag,
That's condensation, not humidity.
Humidity cannot be seen.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22790571 - 01/17/16 01:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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very true, condensation can happen at any humidity above 0
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: PussyFart]
#22792374 - 01/17/16 09:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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sure, makes sense, ill just follow the guideline I have from a guide ive been using.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22792429 - 01/17/16 10:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Excuse me if someone else has already addressed this, but after two pages, I have one burning question. Have you ever done a grow in a SGFC or monotub before? It seems like you are asking questions that someone with one or two grows under the belt, would probably already know.
Maybe consider scaling things down a bit, understand the process, then move into a greenhouse.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Kalistis]
#22800468 - 01/19/16 06:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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this thread title is a little misleading, I plan on stepping it up to the full green house after this first go with growing with bags
I have my two bags spawning for the last time, mixed with the mushroom compost. They're just sitting in my GH.
once they fully colonize I am debating on cutting just the tops of the bags off or taking the entire thing out of the bags and fruiting as a big block, so i can get pins on the side too.
would that make sense? it'd be like a pf tek but bigger and cubic
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Kalistis said:
Excuse me if someone else has already addressed this, but after two pages, I have one burning question. Have you ever done a grow in a SGFC or monotub before? It seems like you are asking questions that someone with one or two grows under the belt, would probably already know.
Maybe consider scaling things down a bit, understand the process, then move into a greenhouse.
and I understand what you mean, it's best to not rush things as to absorb everything better during the first, more simple grow.
I've grown cubes a couple times before, mainly with grow bags, once in a monotub.
I plan on doing monotubs as well as the GH, so I'm gonna dip my toes in everything and see which I'm most comfortable with. I have a lot of time to kill.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22848999 - 02/01/16 01:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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does this blurry image look good?
sorry it didn't focus and i didnt want it open for long, wiped the camera down with iso before shooting and used gloves wiped down with iso to touch everything, then wiped the bag after.
it's on a 12/12 cycle, and seems like humidity is pretty high so i breath them once a day.
Should I leave the tops of the bags open when the light is on since it's in a green house? or should I just cut the tops off and spray it with water since I don't have a humidifier yet since it got refunded and i haven't had the chance to pick one up yet.
I'd use a brand new spray bottle and distilled water
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22849024 - 02/01/16 01:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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next time don't worry about opening it, it won't cause you any harm to open it up for a good pic, it looks fine btw.
also no need to wipe things down in iso either. i would cut the bags and mist by hand with tap water.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: cronicr]
#22849026 - 02/01/16 02:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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okay, but im gonna wear gloves 
thanks for the feedback!
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22849045 - 02/01/16 02:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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and can I just keep the light on 24hr? or is the circadian rhythm thing true?
I cut one bag, gonna leave the other bag closed til it's more colonized since the casing layer was thicker.
this is the treasure coast strain after only like 2 days after putting the casing layer down
Edited by AgingHippy (02/01/16 02:28 AM)
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22849056 - 02/01/16 02:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Paul Stamets, in his '6 ways mushrooms can save the world' Ted talk, stated that mushrooms don't need light to grow. Although, light helps pin formation. I wouldn't do 24hr light.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Rocket]
#22849061 - 02/01/16 02:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Think of the light more like a signal that the weather is optimal. Truthiness (omg that word was in my auto keyboard).
Or try an alternative sleep Cycle.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22851063 - 02/01/16 04:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
teefizzle said:
and can I just keep the light on 24hr? or is the circadian rhythm thing true?
I cut one bag, gonna leave the other bag closed til it's more colonized since the casing layer was thicker.
this is the treasure coast strain after only like 2 days after putting the casing layer down
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: cronicr]
#22852968 - 02/01/16 11:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks for the advice, i've got it on 12/12, and my treasure coast has it's first pin!
check it out:
hard to see but it's in the left side middle of the screen, wish i had a nice camera.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22856527 - 02/02/16 06:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I completely didn't think to look at the side of the bag!
  
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22862355 - 02/04/16 12:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Connoisseur]
#22863154 - 02/04/16 10:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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the same side ones.
This treasure coast bag is doing well, there are numerous sets of pins forming on top and more coming up from the sides
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22863160 - 02/04/16 10:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Awesome!
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Connoisseur]
#22863786 - 02/04/16 01:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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pin sets are coming in, almost exclusively on-top of the bag with a thicker casing layer (as opposed from starting to fruit on the sides of the bag), which is also requiring more misting to make it wet enough for evaporation of moisture off the surface.
both are looking promising and im more excited than i have been in a long time because this is only the beginning of an awesome journey for me that's taken wayyyy too long to get to.
I have been a member since 2007 and have never done big grow, and plan on doing so after these two bags as my experiment.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22882421 - 02/09/16 10:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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*UPDATE (02/09/16):
so I've discovered that if the casing layer is too thick/thin, then the fruits will mainly start growing from the sides of the bags. Not sure which one is which is which anymore, can anyone weigh in?
I assume this is a light-related issue.
The missing caps are just ones that I ate
  
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22882805 - 02/09/16 12:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not really an issue. Side pinning is ok. It depends on the cultivators needs/wants is what I take away from doing a search on here for "side pinning bags".
It's due to FAE, that search query above will yield you this answer, like here:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17726514#17726514
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Rocket]
#22896209 - 02/12/16 02:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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small harvest, one of the fruits was about to fully open so I went ahead and harvested a couple clusters
i wasn't very gentle with them, hence the bruising
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#22896270 - 02/12/16 03:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Congrats.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Rocket]
#22896367 - 02/12/16 03:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks man, you're signature really helps me remember to focus on FAE and evaporation
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22896405 - 02/12/16 03:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Awesome.    It's been my focus as well lately.
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22897490 - 02/12/16 09:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice flush o' mush. Save any aborts if you don't already. Aborts and fruit bodies that are not yet mature are more potent by weight then the much bigger sized, fully mature fruits. It appears that the psilocin/psilocybin production happens and is finished in the early stage of fruit body formation, where from there the mushroom just grows in size and weight. If you eat 3g - 5g dry of aborts or smaller immature fruits, vs. one big 3g - 5g shroom, you should be able to see there's a difference. Well anyway, enjoy... Peace.
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#22897883 - 02/12/16 10:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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i have some aborts that are starting to bruise in one of my bags, ill make sure to save them
I've always heard they were more potent
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: AgingHippy]
#22899111 - 02/13/16 09:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
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i have some aborts that are starting to bruise in one of my bags, ill make sure to save them
I've always heard they were more potent
Never tried eating fresh aborts, heard they really pack a punch.
I'm defintiely gonna try a 3.5 gram trip with aborts only and see where it takes me. 
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Re: sterilizing my portable greenhouse [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22942085 - 02/24/16 06:45 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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just ate like 4g maybe, i think 2.7 in tea and like 1.7-2g treasure coast and menace mix
been eating only the treasure coast so far, which i really like, but mixing it up this time.
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