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OfflineScolecite
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To much water in casing layer?
    #2268627 - 01/24/04 05:30 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I belive there might be too much water if the casing layer starts to look like mud. True?

Is your casing layer usually crumbly?

~thanks~


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: Scolecite]
    #2268665 - 01/24/04 05:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

The casing shouldnt be muddy. It should be wet but still retain its crumbly appearance. if you can squeeze out water from a hand full of your casing then its to wet.

Max


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: Max1]
    #2268682 - 01/24/04 05:58 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

wrong you should be able to squeeze out water from a handful...in fact that is the most common way to judge if your casing material is at field capacity


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: ]
    #2268720 - 01/24/04 06:16 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

its kinda 'wet' as opposed to crumbly but wet.... Im worried.


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: ]
    #2268731 - 01/24/04 06:20 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

stupaod said:
wrong you should be able to squeeze out water from a handful...in fact that is the most common way to judge if your casing material is at field capacity




Well Field capacity is when you squeeze it and a drop comes out. so not wrong.
I will refrase it, If you can squeeze out more than a drop or 2 than its to wet.


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: Max1]
    #2268742 - 01/24/04 06:24 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

field capacity is when it is holding as much water as it can... absolutely saturated. you don't want that. it should be moist, not wet. a few drops should come out of it without too much effort if you squeeze a handful in your hand.


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: ]
    #2268755 - 01/24/04 06:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I stand corrected about the reference to what field capacity is. But as far as how wet, I agree. You dont wont it wet. People are so quick to point out when they THINK somebody is wrong, it kills me.
I guess it makes them feel big or important.

Thanks mushmaster, I alway thought field capacity was only a drop not saturated.


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: ]
    #2268764 - 01/24/04 06:34 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I checked it out on dictionary.com and your right about field capacity....weird cause everyone always refers to being able to squeeze out a few drops as feild capacity


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: ]
    #2268773 - 01/24/04 06:37 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yea well id like to know what part of what i said above it wrong?

The casing shouldnt be muddy. It should be wet but still retain its crumbly appearance. if you can squeeze out water from a hand full of your casing then its to wet.

Max


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: Max1]
    #2268918 - 01/24/04 07:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

so whats going to happen if its too wet, muddy kinda?


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: Scolecite]
    #2268950 - 01/24/04 07:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Well it really depends on how wet it is but if its REAL wet id strip it off and redo it. It has to breath and cant through all that water. it wont pin in to wet a casing so unless it is able to dry out some on its own your not going to be getting much from it.


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: Scolecite]
    #2269027 - 01/24/04 08:41 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

you probably will have to recase and I'd recommend getting some coir

and max1 you tell him no water should come out and then a few posts later you say it should(after I said it should) and then you have the nerve to give me a bad rating haha get some experience before giving out advice...and if you do have experience just stop giving out bad advice all together

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    #2269067 - 01/24/04 08:57 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: OldSpice]
    #2270970 - 01/25/04 09:04 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

if it 's too wet then add some vermiculit dudes why flaming each other? :laugh:


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: Scolecite]
    #2271177 - 01/25/04 11:49 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

What I really want to know is , how does a body tell if his casin layer is to wet once it is on the substrate ?


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: 284_27]
    #2271190 - 01/25/04 11:56 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Look at it you can tell atleast I can


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: 284_27]
    #2271388 - 01/25/04 01:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I'm the latest version of OCB so I've got water dedector on me.Update yourself!I hadn't got that feeling till I had overmisted it.:)


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Re: To much water in casing layer? [Re: Scolecite]
    #2271429 - 01/25/04 01:36 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

so whats going to happen if its too wet, muddy kinda?

the mycelium will not grow into it very well. it'll grow slowly, with sparse stringy growth. there will be a higher risk of contams.

i recently experienced this with my last 3 tubs of straw. two of them had no mycelium growth at all into the casing layer, but cobweb and trich instead. one had no mold, but only very sparse, slow-moving casing colonization.

make sure you get the water content right. it is most important. when you squeeze a handful of the material, a few drops should come out. you shouldn't have to squeeze it ridiculously hard though. it should be moist, but not wet. that's the best way i can really describe it.

this time of year, it can get really dry inside, and keeping optimum moisture content can be difficult. covering a cased tray tightly with plastic wrap is a good idea.


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