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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: valour]
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I sure the sun thing accually happened. Its somewhere on erowid i think. 4 guys tripped out on acid and started worshiping the sun. They stared at it for an afternoon and went blind.


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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: Ole Field Trashe]
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Apparently, it was a hoax fabricated by a doctor from the Institute of the Blind in Pennsylvania.

"...Later on the story was shown to be a hoax. A Dr. Yoder from the
Institute of the Blind in Pennsylvania admitted he had made up the story
"because I am concerned about the illicit use of LSD and other drugs".
^^ http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth6.shtml

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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: one800chiapet]
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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: valour]
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^^^ But it COULD happen. 


...IF you were retarded.   

:lol:


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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: Trip]
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When i was sentenced to rehab, i heard the most stupid ideas ever from the cousilors who knew it all from the books they read lol. So nothing would suprise me about stupid hear/say on drugs...


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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: Gridge420]
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i was never in rehab but had to talk to my fair share of substance abuse counslers (court ordered) and most of them were really cool and informed especially the hot lady :smile: she said she didn't see any problems with kids smoking marijuana unless it starts to affect the world around them with negative consequences i.e. grades in school, probation(failing drug test), job ect. and that it was basically a harmless substance and also never said one lie about psychedelics she gave us the honest truth that they pose very little danger at all except maybe a freak accident, which is unlikely for the most part, i think she does drugs or maybe did alot in college and realized most of the bullshit about drugs, anyway she used honesty instead of scare tactics and she earned my respect and I would actually listen to what she said rather than just ignore everything she says after the lsd/orange juice story :tongue:


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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: John]
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The way I heard the story was that a dealer at some school had a sheet of lsd with him at the bathroom while he was washing his hands, a principle or a teacher came from behind, took the whole sheet of lsd in his hands and fell with that hand in a sink full of water, triggering all the hits of acid to enter his system, so he went crazy thinking he's a cup of orange juice...  I believe that story, I dunno, you CAN trip so hard you go crazy.  I've heard that story in Israel, Americans have told me AND I still hear that story in Norway... so that story is really going around the world.  I also heard some girl took acid and thought she was an orange so she started peeling her skin, DAMN :shocked:!!!!  I also heard some story about a guy who took acid and  thought he was a tree, so he drank himself to death on water... you know, cause a tree needs alot of water...! :rolleyes:


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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: filthysock]
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Anybody seen Brass Eye by Chris Morris? He's the guy who made Phil Collins front an anti-paedophilia campaign called "Nonce Sense". They made an excellent episode which ridiculed drug propaganda. Lots of UK celebs and politicians speaking out against the new dangerous drug "Cake":

"It's a new Czechoslovakian drug called Cake. And luckily the story involves these people: Free the United Kingdom from Drugs and British Opposition to Medically Bi-sterbile Drugs." (FUKD and BOMBD)

Rolf Harris: This colour, that they thought would be a good selling point, is put in using an industrial dye which in itself is a pollutant and is causing in Czechslovakia something called 'Czech neck'. It causes enormous water retention so that the body swells up ... until the person that is on the trip dies from not being able to breathe at all.'

Bernard Manning: One little kiddie on cake cried all the water out of his body. Just imagine how his mother felt. It's a fucking disgrace.

Noel Edmunds: What is cake? Well, it has an active ingredient which is a dangerous psychoactive compound known as di-mesmeric ansonphosphate. It stimulates the part of the brain that deals with time perception ("Shatners Bassoon") so a second feels like a month. Almost sounds like fun, unless you're the Prague schoolboy who walked out into the street in front of a tram. He thought he'd got a month to cross the street.

Manning: And if you're sick on this stuff, you can puke yourself to death. One girl threw up her own pelvis. What a fucking disgrace

David Amess, then MP: You've heard what Bernard Manning's said: Cake's a Bi-sterbile Cradabolic Anphetamoid - which is a made up psycho-active chemical. It comes from Prague, with its own culture of Boon raves, where kids wolf down vast quantities... Look at that [gestures to huge yellow pill of Cake in his hand] ?100,000 in the pocket of the filth that sells it, a big yellow bullet in the head of some user.

Hilarious :smile:


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Take half a gram of phanerothyme."

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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: Trip]
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I heard weed gives you the munchies because it destroys all the vitamins in your body so you need to eat alot to get them back.

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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: filthysock]
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took the whole sheet of lsd in his hands and fell with that hand in a sink full of water, triggering all the hits of acid to enter his system

All of the "big dose" stories are myths. Acid has a saturation point, there's only so many brain receptors. Above a certain dose (I think it was something like 500-900 micrograms) nothing else happens unless someone has told you you're taking a "big dose" and you have a placebo effect.

Leary found this in the 60's, if he told people they were getting a low dose and then gave them an enormous dose there was no difference in how they tripped. If he told them they were getting an big dose they'd trip harder - pure placebo.

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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: Xlea321]
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chinacat72 said:
Quote:
Try taking 250mcg. and two weeks later eat two sheets(20,000mcg) and tell me there's no difference.

That's not the same thing. The key is if you think you're getting 250ug you don't notice any difference if it's 2000ug.

If this saturation theory were true , a person recieving a enormous dose would be saturated therefore they would'nt be thinking they were getting a "average hit".

No, if saturation point is at 250-500ug then it doesn't matter if you get 3000, you'll still think it's 250ug.

Why would Leary lie about people being unable to distuingish between 250 and 2000ug? 



In your statement you said Leary said people getting a enormous dose thought it was average. Can't you see the error in this statement. Lets assume that an Average dose is one that is not fully "saturated". An enormous dose would completely saturate you. So how could you get completely saturated off a dose that doesn't completely saturate your receptors? Thats what your saying when you say an average dose is no different than a enormous dose.

As for Leary lying. Leary isn't a lier. He was a very beautiful ,well intentioned man in a pivatol place in history. He made many mistakes, but so would any person put in his shoes. His research may not have been able to tell the difference between 250mcg and 2000. I don't think he intentionaly lied  ever about anything.

Ask anyone who has ever taken a huge dose of LSD(10,000+mcg.) if it's different than 250mcg. I assure you that they can tell the difference. A huge fuckin difference. As Whiterasta said in the thumbprint thread at huge doses LSD starts acting on other neurotransmitter receptor systems other than the normal ones it effects. I know alot of people from tour who have eaten massive doses of LSD and every one of them felt it was more powerful than 500mcg. By far more powerful.

Since going off info from folks off the net is skeptical I propose a test.
A blind non-placebo test. Take two bottles of water. Have a trusted friend put 250mcg. of liquid LSD in one bottle. Have him put 20,000mcg. in the other. Have him mark them so he knows what they contain, but not tell you. Take them home and drink one then two weeks later drink the other. At both times have your friend be there as a sitter(your going to need it for the 20,000mcg.) I would bet my wife,house, and kids that you will definatly know which one contained the 20,000mcg. In fact you would know it very quickly.
peace
chinacat72 :cool: 




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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: d33p]
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In your statement you said Leary said people getting a enormous dose thought it was average. Can't you see the error in this statement.

No, you misunderstand. They could tell no difference between an enormous dose and a much smaller one.

Thats what your saying when you say an average dose is no different than a enormous dose.

No, I'm saying a smallish dose that is beyond the saturation point cannot be distuingushed from an enormous dose unless you tell them.

I know alot of people from tour who have eaten massive doses of LSD and every one of them felt it was more powerful than 500mcg. By far more powerful.

Yes but did they know they were taking a big dose? If you know you are taking a big dose it is very likely you will convince yourself you "tripped harder". Pure placebo.

I would bet my wife,house, and kids that you will definatly know which one contained the 20,000mcg. In fact you would know it very quickly.

Fine - you are entitled to your opinion. All we know for certain is that someone who actually experimented with this on many, many people found the complete opposite. Leary found none of them could ever tell the difference.

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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: Xlea321]
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Funniest thing I ever heard was that if someone is pregnant and takes LSD that their baby will be born without a conscience. Thats just rediculous, however I dont advise the use of any drug while pregnant.

On a seprate note, I also heard that everytime you masterbate God kills a kitten.






(killing kittens never felt so good!)


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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: rockytop83]
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I heard if you fall asleep, you can fall victim to such horrible side-affects such as "nightmares" (highly intense dreams which cause the sleep user to feel very scared/paranoid. this often leads to depression for the users of sleep) and a an affect called SW, or sleep walking. Many sleep users walk around in a confused and dazed state of conscience, which could lead to harm of others or the users of sleep. This new form of "getting high" is highly addictive and many kids find themselves doing it every night.

Another lethal chemical, H2O, is finding it's way into schools and more and more children's hands. Kids often do not know the amount of fluoride or other potentially lethal chemicals they are getting along with the water. There have also been several cases of death among heavy H2O users when they submerge themselves in the water for extented periods of time to "increase the pleasures they recieve from H2O." Please inform your kids about the devastating affects that H2O has on their lives.

We need these chemicals out of our society, so we can all live greedy lives based on fear and consumption.

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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: HIghInOhio]
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HIghInOhio said:
Another lethal chemical, H2O, is finding it's way into schools and more and more children's hands. Kids often do not know the amount of fluoride or other potentially lethal chemicals they are getting along with the water. There have also been several cases of death among heavy H2O users when they submerge themselves in the water for extented periods of time to "increase the pleasures they recieve from H2O." Please inform your kids about the devastating affects that H2O has on their lives.

We need these chemicals out of our society, so we can all live greedy lives based on fear and consumption.




100% of all people who have died, have used H20 sometime in their life.

Water; it's more harmful than we all thought.....

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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: Twirling]
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a chick in school once said that acid "crystalizes in your spine" and if you ever go to a certian altitude (like on an airplane) your neck will break and you will die, or if you're lucky, you'll have a flashback. I mean, I'll admit, the LSD crystalizing in your spine COULD be logicial to someone who knows nothing aobut it, but the other part is just rediculous. I mean, what, does the acid have some sort of altimeter in it, so it can decide to kill you when you travel at a certain hight? ugh.

Edited by Catharsis (02/01/04 09:09 PM)

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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: valour]
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valour said:
"Forget the name blah blah blah"

Yeah, and this is how such urban legends are perpetuated.




Fortunately, I know the difference between true events and urban legends.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/longterm/memories/bias/launch/biasfrnt.htm

Although, it does say his heart attack may have been caused by a heart ailment.

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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: FocusHawaii]
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Props for posting a source, but it's not exactly conveying a story of "Sports figure tries cocaine once and drops dead on the spot."
I've absolutely no doubt that cocaine does kill people. I mean, duh, right?
It's the "one hit DIE!" thing which um...pushes the envelope.


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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: valour]
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Well some one tryed to convinse me flash back are caused by lsd being stored in the bodys fat and is then sometimes released. I told him it was all rubbish but he wouldnt have it cos his science teacher told him and apperently this guy dosent lie.

But i have heard this storey before which i beleive was some 60s 70s crap released by the goverment. But yeah its all lies as i think lsd has a half life of two hours in the body.


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Re: funniest drug propaganda that youve ever heard [Re: recalcitrant]
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mushrooms make you crazy


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