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ravenfeeder
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Is this possibly Mycogone perniciosa?
#22670511 - 12/18/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi All!
I'm about to make up some trays of PE6 with fully colonized jars and pasteurized coir/verm/gypsum substrate, but before I continue, I'd like to ask the experienced eyes to help distinguish the "growths" within my spawn jars. Could it be M. perniciosa?
Much appreciated!

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cc2
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Re: Is this possibly Mycogone perniciosa? [Re: ravenfeeder]
#22670923 - 12/18/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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difficult to tell without doing an isolation or cutting something up. that last on right surely has the common feature of blobbing and yellow drops on that, though you'll have to handle something of that and tear it apart in a safe environment to have a more reasoned guess of who's who.
http://www.academicjournals.org/journal/AJAR/article-full-text-pdf/655616F35806
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Toadstool5
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Re: Is this possibly Mycogone perniciosa? [Re: cc2]
#22672076 - 12/18/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just looking at them though, the top of the jar to the right looks like it and there is a decent amount of bubbles in the middle jar to the right of "19/11".
I'm not experienced with bubble disease, only seen pictures so take my advise lightly
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ravenfeeder
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Re: Is this possibly Mycogone perniciosa? [Re: Toadstool5]
#22674488 - 12/19/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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cc2 said: difficult to tell without doing an isolation or cutting something up. that last on right surely has the common feature of blobbing and yellow drops on that, though you'll have to handle something of that and tear it apart in a safe environment to have a more reasoned guess of who's who.
http://www.academicjournals.org/journal/AJAR/article-full-text-pdf/655616F35806
Thanks for the nice article, cc2! Yeah I have broken up some of the "bubbles" after tossing trays that got infected with Trich, and they are quite compact and meaty, with spawn grain here and there inside, beige-coloured inside and almost wet to touch.
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Toadstool5 said:

Just looking at them though, the top of the jar to the right looks like it and there is a decent amount of bubbles in the middle jar to the right of "19/11".
I'm not experienced with bubble disease, only seen pictures so take my advise lightly 
I know, right!? Sometimes I think it's only grains that didn't seperate properly when I banged it against a tyre to g2g it to make this spawn, and that the droplets might be metabolites, as my room can sometimes reach 87°F due to this crazy hot Summer we're having currently. I am moving all my trays and jars to a new, slightly cooler spot - underneath my bed - where Temps near the tiled flooring only reaches max 81°F.
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ravenfeeder
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Re: Is this possibly Mycogone perniciosa? [Re: ravenfeeder]
#22678690 - 12/20/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've decided to improvise by moving colonizing jars and trays to underneath my bed, where the temps are slightly cooler, and the cool floor will also help fight temperature spikes within the subs on hot days.

Not seeing much of the bubbles on the new, colonizing trays, so I think I might have "outrun" the possible bacteria through a couple of g2g'ing sessions, so I expect PE6 soon..!

Thanks All!
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Toadstool5
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Re: Is this possibly Mycogone perniciosa? [Re: ravenfeeder]
#22679567 - 12/20/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I might have "outrun" the possible bacteria through a couple of g2g'ing
Can you do that? With the level of nutrition in grains and the elevated temps you are at I would think bacteria would colonize much faster even with an adjusted pH. Perhaps moist cardboard would be better. I know a lot of guys that clone to cardboard and use it as spawn or transfer to agar for a final check.
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