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Are my pins growing alright? a Log of trials, errors and lack of material.
    #22678388 - 12/20/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So I need some help with some pin questions.

It has been 3 1/2 days since sight of first pin.
That pin is slow growing I thought this could be normal bc a lot of pins are popping everywhere.

My FC is small and I can't say if I am getting good humidity.

The strain is supposedly shooting star.
It is a 5 yr old syringe.

Pins are shooting everywhere some even down.

Do these pins look like a good size for 3 days?



Edited by Drmantus (01/07/16 11:36 PM)

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22678395 - 12/20/15 06:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They look good to me, in a few more days they'll have exploded, if they don't abort.
5 year old syringe???? Holy cow, be glad the spores germinated at all:crazy2:

And I was worried about my 6month old syringes.:blush:


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: impaired420]
    #22678452 - 12/20/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah spores are hardy things. Hell even slants that have been forgotten for years are sometimes able to recover.

On the subject, I notice that at first pins grow slow as you have noted OP, but after a few days they eill take off. I think this is because to grow a pin the mycelium will need to divide its cells similiar to how we grow but after a certain point their cells expand with water rather than divide. I forgot where I read that but it said that cells can expand much faster than they can divide which is logical and even the reason why some wild mushroom species seem to pop up overnight.

I remember when I was a kid I used to take the same route everyday to wait for the bus for school. There was this spot which had a lot of pine trees and every year, yellowish mushrooms would pop up overnight in the shade of these trees.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22678666 - 12/20/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You should try to increase your RH in your fruiting chamber.  It'll cut down on your side pins.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Psilicon]
    #22679007 - 12/20/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Do you have perlite in your FC? I dont see any.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #22679365 - 12/20/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the help guys.

Keeping my RH is difficult with my container and yes you are right I don't have perlite.
Which could be the main issue.

But I did have enough RH to trigger pinning.

It seems I need more humidity through out the container.
Most humidity is around the as opposed to the top of the cake.

When I fan after misting, a lot of RH is lost everytime.

I almost feel I should create a dub tub FC because I need something a little larger to hold RH and hopefully a little more room for FAE so I don't have to open the container as much.

^ is this a good idea or best if left in original container, until first flush?

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Psilicon]
    #22679591 - 12/20/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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van der griegen said:
You should try to increase your RH in your fruiting chamber.  It'll cut down on your side pins.




The rh on the sides will still be higher than the rh at the surface, which I suspect will still give him side pins regardless of his rh levels in his FC, besides rh at substrate level is a major pinning trigger, I would rather have side pins than lessen the performance of my mycelium.

My suggestion is to try to cut a piece of garbage bag and put that in the tray before you spawn. This will still stick to the substrate even when it shrinks. What this does is eliminate the constant evaporation on the sides of the substrate making conditions at the top better. My understanding is that the mycelium always seems to choose where the best microclimate is so even if you have say 20% rh at the upper surface, since the tray sides are so close to the substrate (trapping moisture) yet still has that gap letting fresh air through (providing evaporation as well as FAE) the microclimate on the sides will still be better in even the most arid conditions.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22679669 - 12/20/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If you have 20% RH on the top, just give up.  You're hopeless.  If you have good conditions throughout the fruiting chamber you will reduce side pins, and you'll also get fruits on the top.  I promise.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Psilicon]
    #22679937 - 12/20/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:lmafo: I actually thought you wrote decrease instead of increase in your post.  yeah increasing it will reduce them but not eliminate them like a liner would. Im actually dreading getting to the 2nd flush on my current tub which I didn't use a liner on, just started pinning its first normally but by the 2nd flush I suspect the substrate will have shruken enough to hold a better microclimate all around. Guess we'll see. Thinking of either taking it out after the first flush to wrap or putting the substrate on its side. Still some time left to decide though so im not giving it much thought for now.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22679989 - 12/20/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, side pins are really hard to pick without damaging the substrate. Liners ftw!!

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22680691 - 12/20/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So I had to do a FC Change will this effect my mushrooms.

Two reasons I felt the old fc was to small which means more fanning more humidity loss.
Second reason because I am stuck without perlite I have to change the paper towel every couple days, and I nearly touch all the pins trying to get the cake out (not literally but pretty close.

One thing I learned a moist paper towel is better than a wet one.

So I have created a dub tub like FC.
6 qt
8- quarter inch holes on the bottom
1 large hole above sub with poly each side.
2 large holes on top with poly may have put the in the wrong place.
And 10 small open holesource around the top.

I placed some steam water under fc to bring up humidity before tranfer.

So far moisture is holding well
RH is 80%

In the pictures you will see the new fc and the old fc
A pretty ghetto set up.

Any advice how is my FC i hope to have enough fae so I do have to open the tub for longer periods of time.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22680761 - 12/20/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just keep doing what you're doing.

I'm not gonna tell you to change your FC. If you have a pinset like that then the only thing I can tell you is to make sure your cake always has FRESH AIR


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22680801 - 12/20/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Just keep doing what you're doing.

I'm not gonna tell you to change your FC. If you have a pinset like that then the only thing I can tell you is to make sure your cake always has FRESH AIR




Well I have made the switch already I hope this is alright.

I will keep an eye on that and fan when needed.
I want to open the tub 3x a day instead of 6, 7 or more times a days.

At the rate of pins that are clustering and popping out everywhere I just feel the home for this cake needs to be larger.

They say if you put a fish in a bigger tank it will grow bigger.

I appreciate your advice, just want have all conditions good for this cake.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22680921 - 12/20/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Crazy cluster

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22681186 - 12/20/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If you cannot get perlite take two t shirts and fold them nicely. Soak them with water with a little salt dissolved in to keep away mildew, ECT.

Put in bottom of sgfc like you would with perlite. Its not optimal but it will work better than nothing at all.
Perlite is really light in weight and can be cheaply ordered online.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22682036 - 12/21/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Drmantus said:
So I had to do a FC Change will this effect my mushrooms.

Two reasons I felt the old fc was to small which means more fanning more humidity loss.
Second reason because I am stuck without perlite I have to change the paper towel every couple days, and I nearly touch all the pins trying to get the cake out (not literally but pretty close.

One thing I learned a moist paper towel is better than a wet one.

So I have created a dub tub like FC.
6 qt
8- quarter inch holes on the bottom
1 large hole above sub with poly each side.
2 large holes on top with poly may have put the in the wrong place.
And 10 small open holesource around the top.

I placed some steam water under fc to bring up humidity before tranfer.

So far moisture is holding well
RH is 80%

In the pictures you will see the new fc and the old fc
A pretty ghetto set up.

Any advice how is my FC i hope to have enough fae so I do have to open the tub for longer periods of time.






Hygrometer's are not accurate for our purposes. Some might argue they aren't accurate for anything but what I mean is that if you arw taking readings from the top or middle of your FC,even if the meter is accurate in its reading that is still not the rh at the substrate level. The wet casing or mycelium will create condensation so the humidity there will be more than the top of the chamber.

As tiger said if your pinset is good then you have sufficient microclimate to induce pinning. As he also said, all you need now is a ton of FAE.

Also fluctuations in rh are necessary to meet other requirements for pinning triggers, like FAE. So don't go thinking you need 90% all the time like I did when I started, thats some old ass info. It's safe to say no one on the site uses hygrometers anymore. All you need is to mist let it dry a bit and remist.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22684964 - 12/21/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

5 year old syringe. Daaaamn!

Those are hardy motherfuckin spores!!
Tell us more about it. How does it look when you pick it up? And why so long before you did them? Stored where?

And I get hella worried with year old spore prints!!


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22685052 - 12/21/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Pins always seem to start slow... But as another said... They will start boomin here very shortly! Especially for the first fruiting... They crack out!!! Lookin good man! Mine always grow a bit from the bottom too, usually the sides and top, but I get a few stinkers that like to go down and then up, it has even raised a cake or two of mine or grown under the perlite and out the side! Still good stuff though! :smile: best of luck!!! 3-5 days max on some of those pins and u will be harvesting! Have fun!!! :smile:


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Leeper]
    #22685733 - 12/22/15 05:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Having lots of fun would upload a pic but currently unable.

Since the last picture I have more pins some are getting fat.

Sometimes the growth seems slow but when I observed they seem to be growing fast doubling in size the really strong ones.

Sooner or later that fatness might turn into.height? Idk.

Reason for it being 5 yrs, I don't live home anymore I returned and found it in my closet.
Even though my siblings went through all my stuff and grabbed what they wanted the little box with the syringe stayed untouched. :smile:

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22686106 - 12/22/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, it's really hard to tell which will be fatties or tall skinnies... They r deceitful for sure... Sometimes the ones that look huge r my smallest mushies! But reguardless should give u a good time! :smile:


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22686380 - 12/22/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Drmantus said:
Having lots of fun would upload a pic but currently unable.

Since the last picture I have more pins some are getting fat.

Sometimes the growth seems slow but when I observed they seem to be growing fast doubling in size the really strong ones.

Sooner or later that fatness might turn into.height? Idk.

Reason for it being 5 yrs, I don't live home anymore I returned and found it in my closet.
Even though my siblings went through all my stuff and grabbed what they wanted the little box with the syringe stayed untouched. :smile:




Wow... Potential mushrooms were just sitting there the whole time... imagine that. And now you're so close to chomping on some... Tahaha ha

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: pablokabute]
    #22687201 - 12/22/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Here's where I'm at some happy pins.
I have it in a small dish of water.

Still many pins forming.



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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22687219 - 12/22/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting setup... Y u have the holes plugged? Do u have a top? Putting a lid on and opening the holes may keep moisture better and allow for minimal FAE but just fan more for that with so few holes!

Just looked up more... I c the holes!! Lol! But still, y u plugin holes?


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22687225 - 12/22/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:aweohyou: :rockon:

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: seand04]
    #22687263 - 12/22/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well I have had those holes there for FAE

I have tried with and without poly fill.
Best conditions are when left in.
And ofcourse I have a top
Let's be realistic here, if I didn't have a top how could I hold humidity to trigger pins.
It's a strange set up i kmow maybe my holes are wierd to you but my mushroom aren't complaining :smile:

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: pablokabute]
    #22687276 - 12/22/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Wow... Potential mushrooms were just sitting there the whole time... imagine that. And now you're so close to chomping on some... Tahaha ha

:getstoned:


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I know right pretty bizzare, thought my rents would of found it and had a melt down by now.

But i have been giving a gift from the gods for sure.

Maybe Christmas I'll be harvesting.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22687323 - 12/22/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Those look a little waterlogged, man.  You might want to ease up a bit on them and only mist them when they're not glistening.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22687338 - 12/22/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would def say u will have some presents for u on Christmas!!! Maybe not dry... But still good presents!! :smile:


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22687361 - 12/22/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Here's where I'm at some happy pins.
I have it in a small dish of water.

Still many pins forming.







Dr. Toboggan? Dr. Mantis Toboggan? lol
You have done fairly well with your rigged fc. The poly in the lower holes will help hold in some of the humidity. Watch that there is never 'standing' water in that dish for over a day. But you will be trippin' soon. And that's a fairly decent looking flush from one cake.

You said they are stargazers? Did you get them from the Keeper? I remember him having that 'variety'.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: dankington]
    #22687395 - 12/22/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you
And thanks for the tip was wondering how long that water can sit.

Not sure honestly it's been so long. I got it for a great price, def did not pay 45 to 50.

Shooting stars is what they are called my first flush ever very exciting
I think I got some good genes here. :cool:

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22687449 - 12/22/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm inclined to agree, brother! Good genes, good vibes :mushroom2:
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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: dankington]
    #22688298 - 12/22/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So here is some more pin pics.
It's so amazing I can't not share.

So there is a second cluster on the other side of the bigger cluster.

Many pins popping and growing well around top.

It has been so amazing watching everything transform.
I had kind of a messy sub pieces of coir fiber sticking off the top.

Well some of those fibers turned into a pin or like the one photo, a pin is growing off a small fiber.
Looks so beautiful.

Thank you guys this forum has helped me a lot, I have other threads were I received much help especially from cronicr, thank you all who have been through this journey and those who have offered guidence.

The journey still continues this Christmas eve will be the first full moon to land on that day in a while.

I remember hearing an old folk lore that says Christmas was a time of celebrations mushrooms usually gathered on the solstice and taken for christmas.
I think it's a little off but not to get side tracked
Enjoy these pin babes!
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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22688317 - 12/22/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What the fuck kinda camera are you using?


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    #22688364 - 12/22/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Phone why?

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    #22688377 - 12/22/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

just never seen pins resolved so well on a phone camera. :shrug: I thought maybe you had a dedicated unit but clearly my phone is just shit.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22688400 - 12/22/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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just never seen pins resolved so well on a phone camera. :shrug: I thought maybe you had a dedicated unit but clearly my phone is just shit.




Yea I do have a newer phone the camera quality is the best I've ever had in a phone. Even better than some dslr pictures I take.

Also I noticed you mentioned my cake looked water logged does it look alright now.
I was suggested to place my cake in a dish of water to support all the pins.
I usually mist it too right before I take the pic because it's usually time for FAE

Without this camera quality I wouldn't feel like you guys were enjoying the view as much as I was.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22688426 - 12/22/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Dishes of water are not necessary really (though there are definitely people who believe in 'bottom watering')

Also just to be clear, a quick breath of fresh air is not 'fae'

FAE for cubensis is the constant steady cycle of fresh air while maintaining high humidity.

Basically creating conditions similar to the Amazon rain forest.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22688446 - 12/22/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I believe in bottom watering, but definitely not in this case.  Only when you have a pinset that's too large for a substrate to fully support.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22688476 - 12/22/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Gotcha well thanks for clarifying that so I don't seem like a complete noob.

Well with my current FC i don't know how good my fae is.
But when doing my bulk hopefully I can provide good fae and observe if growth patterns are any different
This would be the only way to know how good my conditions were in this first grow.

This cake on top of being an old syringe it colonized most of a large Canning jar 2 months of time which is long I birthed it
Because I couldn't wait,
Cut my cake clean rolled it after dunk obv, and threw the remaining sub in a 6 qt container.
This myc has been through a lot and with my lack of experience a proper equipment I am just happy to be here now.

Here's where it began from the jars.
I don't know the size of this jar, but you could pickle a few cucumbers in there.
10 days till pin not bad imo.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22699983 - 12/25/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Merry Christmas everyone

Heres some pics these babes are growing slow and steady some more than others.

Pins are still producing daily.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22702229 - 12/26/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Growin pretty slow for sure.... Slowly but surely wins the race! As long as nothing else grows inbetween the fruitings! :smile:


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Leeper]
    #22702613 - 12/26/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yea growing great this guy is a fatty.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22702909 - 12/26/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:whoah:

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22703845 - 12/27/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Definitely gonna be a fatty!!!!!!


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Leeper]
    #22707226 - 12/27/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Here's some more pics. Two long guys coming out from the bottom.

Sometimes these pins look like they need water but it also seems like they have too much.

So how do these guys look so far?


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22707255 - 12/27/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Looks super wet in there dude. Hold off on the misting for a couple of days.
Let the pins mature and new ones will pop up as the moisture evaporates from the surface.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22707417 - 12/27/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm inclined to agree. Let that cake dry itself out a little more before you water it again. Also looks like you could be fanning it a little more or even just leave the container open for an hour or so a couple times a day.

After reading the thread I'm guessing your ambient temperature is running in the mid to high sixties, am I right?

Very nice looking cake. I think you could get some nice scaling on them mushrooms with a little more drying of the sub before you add water.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: george castanza]
    #22707614 - 12/27/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks n yea it's cold was unsure If I was misting too much.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22710760 - 12/28/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:leocheers:
WTG DrMantus! Yeah, let 'em dry out before misting again. I'd make sure the room your FC is in has good airflow :thumbup:

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: dankington]
    #22715602 - 12/30/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

A couple questions and concerns.

In the first pic the longer guy on the bottom of my cake has split in half and looks hollow.
Not solid like the others.

During the move and paper towel change I lost a cluster of 3.
I am extremely careful but the cake has gotten to the point were I can't really move it.
Heres some pics
That fatty is splitting at the veil a little. A lot of black lines does this say too much water?


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    #22716394 - 12/30/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

repost those images bro I wanna see!!!


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    #22717155 - 12/30/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure why images don't show.
Here they are again let me know if it's visible.

Since yesterday I had no idea how delicate these guys are.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: Drmantus]
    #22718349 - 12/30/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

On the left picture I also lost a cap on one of the guys.
Would it be best to leave it or remove it?

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    #22722181 - 12/31/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I would go ahead and remove it. I would also think about harvesting anything that has stopped showing noticeable growth.

Call it a flush, and hope for another.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: george castanza]
    #22724332 - 01/01/16 12:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I would go ahead and remove it. I would also think about harvesting anything that has stopped showing noticeable growth.

Call it a flush, and hope for another.




:whathesaid:
I have only had a few fruits that split. I attributed it to such a rapid growth, as it'd been on each of those occasions. Too much moisture could also be a factor in this, but I'm not sure.

But nice effin' goin' DrMantus!
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Re: Are my pins growing alright? [Re: george castanza]
    #22725272 - 01/01/16 06:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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I would go ahead and remove it. I would also think about harvesting anything that has stopped showing noticeable growth.

Call it a flush, and hope for another.




OK thanks you think this is the case.
It does seem possible.

First I will remove the largest ones and see if any growth continues.

It is also possible to much water may have been a factor.
Thanks guys for the support and help.
I am looking to improve my set up
So I can grow properly and obtain better results.

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Are my pins growing alright? a Log of trials, errors and lack of material. [Re: Drmantus]
    #22750190 - 01/07/16 09:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

To continue and update this log

I have harvested the first flush, small little guys but I am not complaining.
I feel that moisture what a large factor.

After the harvest I let the cake sit in the open and even elevated the bottom because there was a lot of moisture built up there.

Off in the distance my harvest sat on a dehydrator with a simple small fan, I did not need the dehydrator but did use the rack for good air flow.

This fan also hit my cake.
I let it dry and then stuck it back for rehydration in clean filtered water.
As a test I use a new filter we bought that is suppose to remove all fluoride from the water.

The cake sat in the water for about 1 hr,
Being that the cake was already wet this was good just to rinse off the outer of the cake, all the yellow metabolite rinsed off.
All the small pins I didn't picked bruised turned blue/black
Were I harvested a nice sized bruised area.

So after cleaning up the cake I returned it back to the fc.
After 2 days the cake recovered and was growing healthy again and covering the outside of the cake with fresh myc.

I now have many pins, again some very nice pins coming out of the top.
This flush looks to be growing at a much faster rate.
I have learned through this first flush
To much water the cake will grow slow as mine did.

With just the right amount of water the cake will produce enough heat to create optimal enviroment.
I notice when I put my hand around the cake it is very warm, and this will vary with how much you spray your cake.

That is all I will post pics later,
I hope that by explaining my steps it will help others with future troubleshooting.

Ofcourse if I had perlite, it would be different.

Consider this a log of mistakes, trial and errors and gibberish.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? a Log of trials, errors and lack of material. [Re: Drmantus]
    #22752341 - 01/08/16 12:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

whatcha using for an FC man? Sorry if its been posted already.


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Re: Are my pins growing alright? a Log of trials, errors and lack of material. [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #22753145 - 01/08/16 03:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I am currently using a large water jug.

It's a little larger than a 2 liter.

Within the next couple of days I plan on making a Shotgun with a 24 qt container.
I should have some perlite too.

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? a Log of trials, errors and lack of material. [Re: Drmantus]
    #22753147 - 01/08/16 03:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Drmantus said:
I am currently using a large water jug.

It's a little larger than a 2 liter.

Within the next couple of days I plan on making a Shotgun with a 24 qt container.
I should have some perlite too.



:rockon:

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Re: Are my pins growing alright? a Log of trials, errors and lack of material. [Re: Drmantus]
    #22763410 - 01/10/16 07:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Drmantus said:
I am currently using a large water jug.

It's a little larger than a 2 liter.

Within the next couple of days I plan on making a Shotgun with a 24 qt container.
I should have some perlite too.




When you built your SGFC put a piece of mesh screen in the bottom to avoid a fuckshow of perlite all over your floor....


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    #22764624 - 01/11/16 01:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Drmantus said:
I am currently using a large water jug.

It's a little larger than a 2 liter.

Within the next couple of days I plan on making a Shotgun with a 24 qt container.
I should have some perlite too.




When you built your SGFC put a piece of mesh screen in the bottom to avoid a fuckshow of perlite all over your floor....




Hell yes. The mess my SGFC makes is horrible. I emptied it now on account I don't use it anymore but If I were to use it, ill definitely try something to stop the fine stuff from going out

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    #22765835 - 01/11/16 12:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Good to know we agree on something! :grin: Happy New Year Suplamon.


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