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Re: Why do people say Popcorn Grain sucks? [Re: insanemike]
    #22652416 - 12/13/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've always had great success with popcorn. It was my first bulk substrate, spawned to coir. I was able to get a very good yield that would be about 10 wet grams less than I get with rye berries.

Like insanemike, I PC after soaking to allow approx 15%-20% of the hulls to crack so the PC would do it's job. I soaked for 24 hours to allow endospores to grow and then PC it for 120 min + @15psi.

So I find the price of popcorn makes it worth it for me when I want a fast colonization to spread over to other grains, or as a starting point for an LC.

I find it really easy to do an LC with popcorn due to the large surface area per individual grain.

So in the end, to each their own. YMMV.


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Re: Why do people say Popcorn Grain sucks? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22660100 - 12/15/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

What is really nice is when you live right next to a popcorn farm (no kidding, a farm growing popcorn corn) and can get a 25kilo bag for the price of a brick of coir, or if you want to harvest it yourself: as much as you want free. Even once in a blue moon, you can find a popped kernel on a cob.

I too noticed that popcorn tends to soak up that little extra. It also gives some space for the sclerotia to work their "magic" more easily, and (At least I) have noticed the sclerotia tend to form their first knots fastest on pcorn.

The magic of growing mushrooms is they will try to grow with whatever you have, and you can keep experimenting without smelling up the entire neighborhood.

In the end I agree with both Muda and Pasty, but I still love me some popcorn. Just save some off to the side and some butter for your movie night while you PC those jars!

MajickMuffin: keep us updated (at least me please)


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Re: Why do people say Popcorn Grain sucks? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22660260 - 12/15/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Machiavelliavore said:
Damn director, you should really check out the blackout method.  You could potentially prepare SOOOOO much in one round, then bag it and PC it for like ~60 mins to sterilize the outside of the kernels.



I'm looking up that method now, however I don't really have the urge to do a big grow. It is fun to grow these on your own for your personal use at most.
HOWEVER, non-psychoactives would be a good thing to try on a large scale for a farm grow.

thanks for the suggestion, i'll keep looking.


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Re: Why do people say Popcorn Grain sucks? [Re: eatyualive]
    #22685551 - 12/22/15 02:28 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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eatyualive said:
mycelia loves pcorn grain. its a little slower to colonize due to large kernal size. but i must say, oysters love it. and cubes as well. its a bit more work to prepare than normal grain like wbs or oats. also, its starchy. that is where most people fail. if you boil it an hour then lay it all flat out on a towel to soak up the extra starches. its real easy to work with. i had some issues with bad grain so i had to switch to the popcorn for a while. i will say at the time it was cost effective, but it can be expensive. depends on your location.






Not to resurrect an 8 hour old thread, but this is the reasoning why I went wih popcorn, just soak out that starch and it goes to town on your edibles.


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