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#22640654 - 12/10/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, the fucking do
and this one was in Chicago, had it not been for the quick, heroic actions of this uber driver then there's no telling how many people could have been killed
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-uber-driver-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html
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Authorities say no charges will be filed against an Uber driver who shot and wounded a gunman who opened fire on a crowd of people in Logan Square over the weekend.
The driver had a concealed-carry permit and acted in the defense of himself and others, Assistant State's Attorney Barry Quinn said in court Sunday.
A group of people had been walking in front of the driver around 11:50 p.m. Friday in the 2900 block of North Milwaukee Avenue when Everardo Custodio, 22, began firing into the crowd, Quinn said.
The driver pulled out a handgun and fired six shots at Custodio, hitting him several times, according to court records. Responding officers found Custodio lying on the ground, bleeding, Quinn said. No other injuries were reported.
Custodio was taken to Advocate Illinois Masonic hospital, where he was treated for gunshot wounds to the shin, thigh and lower back, authorities said.
Custodio, of the 2900 block of North Ridgeway Avenue, was charged with aggravated assault and unlawful use of a weapon charges. He was denied bond during the Sunday court hearing.
The Uber driver, a 47-year-old resident of Little Italy, provided police with a valid concealed-carry permit and a firearm owner's identification card, Quinn said.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22640664 - 12/10/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, but no guns, no shootings, fuckin Australia cunt.
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#22640683 - 12/10/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Yes, but no guns, no shootings, fuckin Australia cunt.
Are you fucking retarded?
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#22640690 - 12/10/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Yes, but no guns, no shootings, fuckin Australia cunt.
Are you fucking retarded?
Lol
Care to elaborate?
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease] 2
#22640692 - 12/10/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Yes, but no guns, no shootings, fuckin Australia cunt.
Are you fucking retarded?
Lol
He's Australian.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: California]
#22640697 - 12/10/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yep, not a single shooting in Australia. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/02/world/australia-shooting/
I betcha Australia covers up most shootings. Politics.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
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#22640720 - 12/10/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude, there are shootings in Australia, but a tiny tiny fraction of what there is in America. I can't stress this point enough.
Australia hasn't had a MASS shootings since 1996. USA, 1052 shootings in 1066 days. It's that simple.
Look here:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-america-gun-violence
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/06/australia-hasnt-had-a-mass-shooting-since-1996/
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#22640723 - 12/10/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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KnyggaPlease said: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/02/world/australia-shooting/ http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-11/tamworth-shooting-death-to-be-investigated/7020186 http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/video-gay-man-shot-flees-for-his-life-from-muslims-in-australia/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Sydney_hostage_crisis
226 deaths in 2015.
Ultimately yes, there are more shootings in the usa.
But a large chunk of it is due to the ravaged entitlement system in place by the liberals pushing the lower economic sectors to become dependent self entitled useless leeching people
Also, take Australia and put it in place of America geographically you'd get fucked by Mexico too
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#22640733 - 12/10/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Keep on passing the blame then.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
#22640743 - 12/10/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Keep on passing the blame then.
Blame certainly isn't on me now is it.
I don't vote the libtards in, I don't support or buy from the Mexican drug trade and I certainly don't participate in the ghetto gangbanging lifestyle
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
#22640761 - 12/10/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Yes, but no guns, no shootings, fuckin Australia cunt.
hahahaha... so why does australia have shootings?
oh yeah, because gun bans dont fucking work
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22640768 - 12/10/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If your gonna kill, your gonna kill. It doesn't have to be with a gun. There are countless ways to kill individuals, or even entire crowds without a gun.
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#22640776 - 12/10/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gun deaths in USA 2015: 12500 Gun deaths in AUS 2015: 226
hahahahahaha
Nah it's not working.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1] 2
#22640778 - 12/10/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: yes, the fucking do
and this one was in Chicago, had it not been for the quick, heroic actions of this uber driver then there's no telling how many people could have been killed
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-uber-driver-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html
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Authorities say no charges will be filed against an Uber driver who shot and wounded a gunman who opened fire on a crowd of people in Logan Square over the weekend.
The driver had a concealed-carry permit and acted in the defense of himself and others, Assistant State's Attorney Barry Quinn said in court Sunday.
A group of people had been walking in front of the driver around 11:50 p.m. Friday in the 2900 block of North Milwaukee Avenue when Everardo Custodio, 22, began firing into the crowd, Quinn said.
The driver pulled out a handgun and fired six shots at Custodio, hitting him several times, according to court records. Responding officers found Custodio lying on the ground, bleeding, Quinn said. No other injuries were reported.
Custodio was taken to Advocate Illinois Masonic hospital, where he was treated for gunshot wounds to the shin, thigh and lower back, authorities said.
Custodio, of the 2900 block of North Ridgeway Avenue, was charged with aggravated assault and unlawful use of a weapon charges. He was denied bond during the Sunday court hearing.
The Uber driver, a 47-year-old resident of Little Italy, provided police with a valid concealed-carry permit and a firearm owner's identification card, Quinn said.
Armed citizens also cause mass shootings. Whats your point?
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#22640788 - 12/10/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: vandago]
#22640821 - 12/10/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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vandago said:
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Prisoner#1 said: yes, the fucking do
and this one was in Chicago, had it not been for the quick, heroic actions of this uber driver then there's no telling how many people could have been killed
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-uber-driver-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html
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Authorities say no charges will be filed against an Uber driver who shot and wounded a gunman who opened fire on a crowd of people in Logan Square over the weekend.
The driver had a concealed-carry permit and acted in the defense of himself and others, Assistant State's Attorney Barry Quinn said in court Sunday.
A group of people had been walking in front of the driver around 11:50 p.m. Friday in the 2900 block of North Milwaukee Avenue when Everardo Custodio, 22, began firing into the crowd, Quinn said.
The driver pulled out a handgun and fired six shots at Custodio, hitting him several times, according to court records. Responding officers found Custodio lying on the ground, bleeding, Quinn said. No other injuries were reported.
Custodio was taken to Advocate Illinois Masonic hospital, where he was treated for gunshot wounds to the shin, thigh and lower back, authorities said.
Custodio, of the 2900 block of North Ridgeway Avenue, was charged with aggravated assault and unlawful use of a weapon charges. He was denied bond during the Sunday court hearing.
The Uber driver, a 47-year-old resident of Little Italy, provided police with a valid concealed-carry permit and a firearm owner's identification card, Quinn said.
Armed citizens also cause mass shootings. Whats your point?
Criminals cause mass shootings. What's your point
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#22640824 - 12/10/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Since we are stating the obvious. It's friday here.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
#22640829 - 12/10/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Gun deaths in USA 2015: 12500 Gun deaths in AUS 2015: 226
hahahahahaha
Nah it's not working.
actually it is working, the US has 300,000,000 legal guns in the hands of citizens
australia has no legal guns
your gun crime rates considering the number of legal guns is astronomical compared to the rate per legal guns in the US and just as this instance with the uber driver has shown, legal guns keep people alive
many of our 12,000 gun deaths, roughly 9000 are considered homicides, now the thing about homicide is that it doesnt just consist of murder, it also covers justifiable homicides in self defense such as this one... now, just how many pints of blood would have to be mopped up in australia after an attack like this given that australians arent allowed to shoot the machete wielding maniac
http://www.idahostatejournal.com/members/crime-victim-newly-released-video-brings-back-terrifying-shining-/article_878e6792-9ef2-11e4-98b3-4f40d061ad26.html
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22640852 - 12/10/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Gun deaths in USA 2015: 12500 Gun deaths in AUS 2015: 226
hahahahahaha
Nah it's not working.
actually it is working, the US has 300,000,000 legal guns in the hands of citizens
australia has no legal guns
your gun crime rates considering the number of legal guns is astronomical compared to the rate per legal guns in the US and just as this instance with the uber driver has shown, legal guns keep people alive
many of our 12,000 gun deaths, roughly 9000 are considered homicides, now the thing about homicide is that it doesnt just consist of murder, it also covers justifiable homicides in self defense such as this one... now, just how many pints of blood would have to be mopped up in australia after an attack like this given that australians arent allowed to shoot the machete wielding maniac
http://www.idahostatejournal.com/members/crime-victim-newly-released-video-brings-back-terrifying-shining-/article_878e6792-9ef2-11e4-98b3-4f40d061ad26.html
'Legal guns keep people alive.' Wow, that should be taught at every school. On that note, I'm receding from this fun thread.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: vandago]
#22640938 - 12/10/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Armed citizens also cause mass shootings. Whats your point?
my point is the point on your head
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#22641070 - 12/10/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Armed citizens also cause mass shootings. Whats your point?
my point is the point on your head
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: vandago]
#22641222 - 12/11/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is tough to pull up a long and dedicated history of armed civilians stopping mass shootings. If you google it you can find about 20 or so, that chicago incident being the most recent and most blatant, the others get blurrier with age and interpretation.
I've only been involved in one shooting, a drive by where a friend was clipped. There woulda been no point in shooting back even if any one could... The threat had passed left its damage in its wake. All I could do was hold a rag on his bloody abdomen till the cops and paramedics arrived.
It's a real surreal feeling you get when you're the only person trying to keep another person, who is panicking and crying and truly feeling like they're going to die, to try and keep them calm, and tell them they're going to be ok, even if you don't know if they will... Because you know the more they panic, the more their blood pressure will spike and the more they'll bleed out. Never even knew the kids real name... We just called him Fuzzy. I didn't see him for a while after they took him away in the ambulance.
Eventually I ran into him at a gas station, crazy fucker was alright... And trying to sell me a tank of nitrous. I guess when they had him in the table, in the or they pulled out the bullet just fine, but left him full of south side hustle.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin] 1
#22641238 - 12/11/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Gun deaths in USA 2015: 12500 Gun deaths in AUS 2015: 226
hahahahahaha
Nah it's not working.
I actually agree with what you are saying, but it is also important to note that compared to the US, nobody lives in Australia.
There are almost twice as many people in California as there is in all of Australia, and people in the US also have way, wayyyyyy more guns.
Population Australia: 23.13 million (2013) Population STATE of California: 38.8 million (2014) Population of the US: 318.9 million (2014)
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#22641274 - 12/11/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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When you compare it relatively... Australia has 7% of the population of the USA. Which means if you had the same population statistically you would be at 3228 gun murders/yr
Considering that's 25% of what the US has and we have the highest gun rate and you have guns banned in Aus, that's not very good, especially considering you are on an island which is 100x easier to stop guns from being imported in
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#22641281 - 12/11/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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australia sounds like a very dangerous place to live, the kind of place you'd send convicts to die
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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If only all the kids at Columbine High School were armed with pistols, the tragic killings could have been stopped....
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Uzziel]
#22641376 - 12/11/15 02:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: If only all the kids at Columbine High School were armed with pistols, the tragic killings could have been stopped....
See, this is the kind of affirmative action USA needs.Quote:
Uzziel said: When you compare it relatively... Australia has 7% of the population of the USA. Which means if you had the same population statistically you would be at 3228 gun murders/yr
Considering that's 25% of what the US has and we have the highest gun rate and you have guns banned in Aus, that's not very good, especially considering you are on an island which is 100x easier to stop guns from being imported in
So 25%. Your argument is: "If Australia didn't have gun control then it'd be the same as USA." Your argument is invalid. It's exactly my point that gun control works.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
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Jufin said: Gun deaths in USA 2015: 12500 Gun deaths in AUS 2015: 226
hahahahahaha
Nah it's not working.
I actually agree with what you are saying, but it is also important to note that compared to the US, nobody lives in Australia.
There are almost twice as many people in California as there is in all of Australia, and people in the US also have way, wayyyyyy more guns.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#22641545 - 12/11/15 05:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Keep on passing the blame then.
Blame certainly isn't on me now is it.
I don't vote the libtards in, I don't support or buy from the Mexican drug trade and I certainly don't participate in the ghetto gangbanging lifestyle
Yeah but your racist oppression is the reason they can't get jobs. Racists like you are to blame for the ghetto. You are the ones with the sense of entitlement, your whole lifestyle is supported by poor dark skinned people.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22641552 - 12/11/15 06:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Yes, but no guns, no shootings, fuckin Australia cunt.
hahahaha... so why does australia have shootings?
oh yeah, because gun bans dont fucking work
Yes the old one shooting means the whole law doesn't work and should be scrapped. Why are no other crimes held to this high standard? Like lets stop enforcement of any crimes since the law doesn't eliminate them 100 percent. You people only say this about guns, you never hear anyone say that drunk driving spot checks haven't stopped drink driving so lets just give up and legalize it. Rape laws haven't stopped rape so lets give up and legalize rape. No crime ever gets eliminated 100 percent. Gun control is supposed to lower the rate of crime, which it does. No one is claiming it's going to make all gun crime disappear. Banning guns is done to reduce gun crime which it does without question.
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#22641556 - 12/11/15 06:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My lifestyle is quite comfortable.
When did I say I was racist, did I say blacks specifically?
I did mention Mexico in another post but disprove the fact that Mexico is a Hotspot for crime.
Disprove that the ghettos are a Hotspot for crime as well.
Disprove the fact that social conditioning created a Hotspot for crime for disadvantages sectors of the economy / country.
Oh wait. They're disadvantageD because they choose to be fucking lazy and mooch off the system.
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#22641574 - 12/11/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: On that note, I'm receding from this fun thread.
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LogicaL Chaos said: If only all the kids at Columbine High School were armed with pistols, the tragic killings could have been stopped....
See, this is the kind of affirmative action USA needs.Quote:
Uzziel said: When you compare it relatively... Australia has 7% of the population of the USA. Which means if you had the same population statistically you would be at 3228 gun murders/yr
Considering that's 25% of what the US has and we have the highest gun rate and you have guns banned in Aus, that's not very good, especially considering you are on an island which is 100x easier to stop guns from being imported in
So 25%. Your argument is: "If Australia didn't have gun control then it'd be the same as USA." Your argument is invalid. It's exactly my point that gun control works.
You said you were done here.
Australians are liars.
You're argument is invalid
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I don't think there's any good correlation between the availability of weapons and murders and the like. It's bad socioeconomic factors that tend to make crime more prevalent. Australia has less poor people and it treats the poor and the sick better than the US does. You could give everybody in Australia a gun and still get nowhere near the number of shootings there are in the US. People there are less desperate and pissed off so they have less reason to shoot shit up.
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Mr.GuessWork said: I don't think there's any good correlation between the availability of weapons and murders and the like. It's bad socioeconomic factors that tend to make crime more prevalent. Australia has less poor people and it treats the poor and the sick better than the US does. You could give everybody in Australia a gun and still get nowhere near the number of shootings there are in the US. People there are less desperate and pissed off so they have less reason to shoot shit up.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#22641823 - 12/11/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: If only all the kids at Columbine High School were armed with pistols, the tragic killings could have been stopped....
Actually they might well have.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: my3rdeye] 1
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Jufin said: Yes, but no guns, no shootings, fuckin Australia cunt.
hahahaha... so why does australia have shootings?
oh yeah, because gun bans dont fucking work
Yes the old one shooting means the whole law doesn't work and should be scrapped.
I like the way you're thinking, they should scap that law since it doesnt work, isnt that what so many people are saying about the drug laws, after all, the odd 1 arrest for marijuana possession is proof it doesnt work
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Why are no other crimes held to this high standard? Like lets stop enforcement of any crimes since the law doesn't eliminate them 100 percent.
you mean like the drug prohibition laws? or are you saying you support those laws
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Patlal]
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Stay in Canada
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: Well. You gun people are now 1 for 36734786
actually we're 300 million for 12,000
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Patlal said: Well. You gun people are now 1 for 36734786
Stay in Canada
In fact. I've lived 27 years in America and not one day... at all, have I felt threatened by a gun.. worried about someone shooting me when I see people carry guns.
EXCEPT the one time a over zealous cop drew it gun on me.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: burgerbrain]
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Switzerland doesn't have the lowest homicide rate in the entire world. It also has very strict gun control laws. The US should look at Switzerlands law as an example.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
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Patlal said: Well. You gun people are now 1 for 36734786
Stay in Canada
In fact. I've lived 27 years in America and not one day... at all, have I felt threatened by a gun.. worried about someone shooting me when I see people carry guns.
EXCEPT the one time a over zealous cop drew it gun on me.
I've never ever did anything wrong. Except this one time at the cottage....
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Apparently they don't....
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/september/fbi-releases-study-on-active-shooter-incidents/pdfs/a-study-of-active-shooter-incidents-in-the-u.s.-between-2000-and-2013
They identified 160 incidents where a mass shooting took place, in the US, from 2000 to 2013. Of those incidents:
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In 5 incidents (3.1%), the shooting ended after armed individuals who were not law enforcement personnel exchanged gunfire with the shooters. In these incidents, 3 shooters were killed, 1 was wounded, and 1 committed suicide.
Just 3%? In the nation with the most guns?
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Seems like us "unarmed civilians" are pwning
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
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LogicaL Chaos said: If only all the kids at Columbine High School were armed with pistols, the tragic killings could have been stopped....
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Uzziel said: When you compare it relatively... Australia has 7% of the population of the USA. Which means if you had the same population statistically you would be at 3228 gun murders/yr
Considering that's 25% of what the US has and we have the highest gun rate and you have guns banned in Aus, that's not very good, especially considering you are on an island which is 100x easier to stop guns from being imported in
So 25%. Your argument is: "If Australia didn't have gun control then it'd be the same as USA." Your argument is invalid. It's exactly my point that gun control works.
No... because statistically speaking as the population rises, crime rate increases as well and we can only assume the gun death rate will actually be higher, this is just a blanket statistic since Australia's population is pretty low. I'd say gun control failed if you can't stop thousands of gun murders a year in an island where its banned
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: trendal]
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If armed citizens stopped mass shootings then we wouldn't have any mass shootings since we have the most guns.
The US is one big failed experiment in wide spread gun ownership.
as for Switzerland, it is not the example gun lovers want to bring up I think. What Switzerland demonstrates is that very strict gun regulation laws work.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
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koods said: Switzerland doesn't have the lowest homicide rate in the entire world. It also has very strict gun control laws. The US should look at Switzerlands law as an example.
so what you're saying is that strict gun laws dont reduce the homicide rate so we need to pass strict gun laws in order to have more people murdered off...
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are you suggesting we throw out the ethnic minorities and align ourselves with the nazis
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Uzziel]
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Uzziel said: When you compare it relatively... Australia has 7% of the population of the USA. Which means if you had the same population statistically you would be at 3228 gun murders/yr
Considering that's 25% of what the US has and we have the highest gun rate and you have guns banned in Aus, that's not very good, especially considering you are on an island which is 100x easier to stop guns from being imported in
So 25%. Your argument is: "If Australia didn't have gun control then it'd be the same as USA." Your argument is invalid. It's exactly my point that gun control works.
No... because statistically speaking as the population rises, crime rate increases as well and we can only assume the gun death rate will actually be higher, this is just a blanket statistic since Australia's population is pretty low. I'd say gun control failed if you can't stop thousands of gun murders a year in an island where its banned
Firearm death rates are highest in rural states. You are much more likely to be killed with a firearm in Mississippi or Alaska than you are in Illinois or California.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
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koods said: If armed citizens stopped mass shootings then we wouldn't have any mass shootings since we have the most guns.
false, you were given 1 of many examples of a gun stopping a mass shooting, just because you choose to ignore them doesnt mean it doesnt happen
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The US is one big failed experiment in wide spread gun ownership.
it looks more like australia and the UK afe failed experiments in gun banning as a crime prevention technique. banning guns hasnt stopped crime, it's made it worse
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as for Switzerland, it is not the example gun lovers want to bring up I think. What Switzerland demonstrates is that very strict gun regulation laws work.
looks really strict doesnt it...
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yeah because you know those little Columbine kids were just armed to the teeth, etc, etc..
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Uzziel]
#22642030 - 12/11/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here's two simple facts
We have more armed citizens than any developed nation. We have more mass shootings than any developed nation.
Simple question: Do more armed citizens reduce the number of mass shootings?
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
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Uzziel said: When you compare it relatively... Australia has 7% of the population of the USA. Which means if you had the same population statistically you would be at 3228 gun murders/yr
Considering that's 25% of what the US has and we have the highest gun rate and you have guns banned in Aus, that's not very good, especially considering you are on an island which is 100x easier to stop guns from being imported in
So 25%. Your argument is: "If Australia didn't have gun control then it'd be the same as USA." Your argument is invalid. It's exactly my point that gun control works.
No... because statistically speaking as the population rises, crime rate increases as well and we can only assume the gun death rate will actually be higher, this is just a blanket statistic since Australia's population is pretty low. I'd say gun control failed if you can't stop thousands of gun murders a year in an island where its banned
Firearm death rates are highest in rural states. You are much more likely to be killed with a firearm in Mississippi or Alaska than you are in Illinois or California.
but it's not higher in rural areas while it is higher in urban areas, places like new orleans and chicago will see higher murder rates than places like boisie idaho, it would also seem that the cities with the highest homicide rates really drive the statistics, those areas are also controlled by liberals, for instance the state of georgia is a little under the national average, not by a lot but when you look at atlanta and compare it to the atlanta suburb of kennesaw, you see stark contrast with kennesaw at less than half the national average on gun crimes dispite the laws requiring gun ownership while atlanta likes to enforce strict regulations but atlant's homicide rate is well over the national average
I think it's pretty clear. democrats cause homicide
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
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Jufin said: Dude, there are shootings in Australia, but a tiny tiny fraction of what there is in America. I can't stress this point enough.
Australia hasn't had a MASS shootings since 1996. USA, 1052 shootings in 1066 days. It's that simple.
Look here:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-america-gun-violence
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/06/australia-hasnt-had-a-mass-shooting-since-1996/
Each year in Australia, Alcohol kills 5,475 people and sends 156,950 more to the hospital. This includes people who were victims of those intoxicated by alcohol. Let's leave tobacco out of the equation right now cause those numbers are lol.
My point is, if your country is so high and mighty and cares about it's citizens lives and well being, why are these far more deadly elements still accepted? You know why, because just like in the USA, the dollar reigns supreme. So get off your high horse my good sir and join the rest of us, your country is ruled by hipocrites just as well.
I'll give it to the US actually for doing it's best not to strip freedoms from it's citizens.
http://theconversation.com/australias-daily-alcohol-toll-15-deaths-and-430-hospitalisations-29906
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: ManianFH]
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do you remeber the movement for alcohol prohibition about 10 years ago in australia, the claim was that alcohol was responsible for more violent deaths than firearms
for some reason liberals want to treat the symptoms and not the disease
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
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koods said: Here's two simple facts
We have more armed citizens than any developed nation. We have more mass shootings than any developed nation.
Simple question: Do more armed citizens reduce the number of mass shootings?
HAH.
Of course you choose to ignore that most mass shootings are in gun FREE zones.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Uzziel]
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Uzziel said: When you compare it relatively... Australia has 7% of the population of the USA. Which means if you had the same population statistically you would be at 3228 gun murders/yr
Considering that's 25% of what the US has and we have the highest gun rate and you have guns banned in Aus, that's not very good, especially considering you are on an island which is 100x easier to stop guns from being imported in
Lol.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Herbologist]
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koods said: Here's two simple facts
We have more armed citizens than any developed nation. We have more mass shootings than any developed nation.
Simple question: Do more armed citizens reduce the number of mass shootings?
HAH.
Of course you choose to ignore that most mass shootings are in gun FREE zones.
he also has no issues with outright lying abut this shit and fails to mention that most of these shooting are done by liberals and that there's about 3 times more mass shooting under the obama administration than under the last 6 presidents combined
liberals are clearly the problem
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Patlal said: Well. You gun people are now 1 for 36734786
Stay in Canada
In fact. I've lived 27 years in America and not one day... at all, have I felt threatened by a gun.. worried about someone shooting me when I see people carry guns.
EXCEPT the one time a over zealous cop drew it gun on me.
I've never ever did anything wrong. Except this one time at the cottage....
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Uzziel said: When you compare it relatively... Australia has 7% of the population of the USA. Which means if you had the same population statistically you would be at 3228 gun murders/yr
Considering that's 25% of what the US has and we have the highest gun rate and you have guns banned in Aus, that's not very good, especially considering you are on an island which is 100x easier to stop guns from being imported in
Lol.
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Exactly I don't even know how people are arguing this anymore
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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koods said: Here's two simple facts
We have more armed citizens than any developed nation. We have more mass shootings than any developed nation.
Simple question: Do more armed citizens reduce the number of mass shootings?
HAH.
Of course you choose to ignore that most mass shootings are in gun FREE zones.
he also has no issues with outright lying abut this shit and fails to mention that most of these shooting are done by liberals and that there's about 3 times more mass shooting under the obama administration than under the last 6 presidents combined
liberals are clearly the problem
That is something he/they would prefer to ignore
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
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Considering that's 25% of what the US has and we have the highest gun rate and you have guns banned in Aus, that's not very good, especially considering you are on an island which is 100x easier to stop guns from being imported in
Well, thank you for admitting that the reason America has such a high murder rate is because of guns.
I do have to wonder what kind of logic would describe a murder rate 1/3 that of the US as not very good.
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Uzziel said: When you compare it relatively... Australia has 7% of the population of the USA. Which means if you had the same population statistically you would be at 3228 gun murders/yr
Considering that's 25% of what the US has and we have the highest gun rate and you have guns banned in Aus, that's not very good, especially considering you are on an island which is 100x easier to stop guns from being imported in
Well, thank you for admitting that the reason America has such a high murder rate is because of guns.
I do have wonder what kind of logic would describe a murder rate 1/3 that of the US as not very good.
actually look at the number of legally owned guns in the US to the number in australia that are legally owned. er legally owned firearms in the US we have a .003% homicide rate per firearm while australia has a 2798375398756% higher homicide rate per legally owned firearm
once more, it's proof positive that liberals are responsible for the murder of innocent people
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false, you were given 1 of many examples of a gun stopping a mass shooting, just because you choose to ignore them doesnt mean it doesnt happen
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it looks more like australia and the UK afe failed experiments in gun banning as a crime prevention technique. banning guns hasnt stopped crime, it's made it worse
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as for Switzerland, it is not the example gun lovers want to bring up I think. What Switzerland demonstrates is that very strict gun regulation laws work.
looks really strict doesnt it...
When everybody is rich with a lots of social perks combined with no access to ammunition. Guns work. Well actually they don't because they don't have bullets. But it serves its purpose: Give Americans a half ass argument about the second amendment.
EDIT: Might as well throw out there that they all recieve military training and only 25% of them choose to keep the gun after.
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false, you were given 1 of many examples of a gun stopping a mass shooting, just because you choose to ignore them doesnt mean it doesnt happen
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it looks more like australia and the UK afe failed experiments in gun banning as a crime prevention technique. banning guns hasnt stopped crime, it's made it worse
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looks really strict doesnt it...
When everybody is rich with a lots of social perks combined with no access to ammunition. Guns work. Well actually they don't because they don't have bullets. But it serves its purpose: Give Americans a half ass argument about the second amendment.
Don't you find it peculiar that once the U.N. arms treaty started to circulate around Washington the Colorado shooting happened and many more there after.
Conspiracy or not....
Gun control talk skyrocketed since the introduction of the treaty and the fact that a U.N. agreement could potentially trigger such a debate and possiby root an existential principal from this nations foundation, is something everyone should take a close look at... that is, the motives behind the gun control talk.
Uneducated opinions and beliefs are always a recipe for disaster.
Any supporter of this sounds guilty of treason to me.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/07/10/the-u-n-arms-trade-treaty-are-our-2nd-amendment-rights-part-of-the-deal/
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No automatic weapons. Very limited conceal carry. All ammo and gun purchases are registered and go through a background check. Gun control works, just look at Switzerland.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
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I guess KnyggaPlease is a fan of Alex Jones., which means he has no common sense.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
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koods said: No automatic weapons. Very limited conceal carry. All ammo and gun purchases are registered and go through a background check. Gun control works, just look at Switzerland.
Civilians here can't buy automatic weapons
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
#22642205 - 12/11/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Absolutely not. Lol...
Just stating the obvious.
But hence why I said, conspiracy or not
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
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Gun control cannot work in theUS until it cntrolled nationally.
It's obvious that if a state bans the purchase of ARs, that the guy who wants an AR will drive to the state next to him and suddenly gain an arms advantage over the people that didn't make that drive.
Hell, I'm not sure if a study has been made about this, but I'm pretty sure that the further away inside a gun controlled state, the least gun you will find and if you go to the edge of the state, you will find more gun which defeats the purpose of the gun ban. The further the drive, the less likely you will make it.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Patlal]
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Obviously, gun control has to be done at a federal level. That's a no brainer.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Patlal]
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Good thing we have the 2nd amendment for stupid ideas like that.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Patlal]
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koods said: If armed citizens stopped mass shootings then we wouldn't have any mass shootings since we have the most guns.
false, you were given 1 of many examples of a gun stopping a mass shooting, just because you choose to ignore them doesnt mean it doesnt happen
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The US is one big failed experiment in wide spread gun ownership.
it looks more like australia and the UK afe failed experiments in gun banning as a crime prevention technique. banning guns hasnt stopped crime, it's made it worse
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as for Switzerland, it is not the example gun lovers want to bring up I think. What Switzerland demonstrates is that very strict gun regulation laws work.
looks really strict doesnt it...
When everybody is rich with a lots of social perks combined with no access to ammunition. Guns work. Well actually they don't because they don't have bullets. But it serves its purpose: Give Americans a half ass argument about the second amendment.
EDIT: Might as well throw out there that they all recieve military training and only 25% of them choose to keep the gun after.
HOLY SHIT!
Look at those young girls at the candy shop, carrying flipping rifles! The Swiss are nutz!
But with all the shootings happening in the world, maybe its not a bad idea for teenagers to carry Lethal Weapon 4.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Herbologist]
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Herbologist said: Good thing we have the 2nd amendment for stupid ideas like that.
There is nothing unconstitutional about gun control. It is also perfectly legal to ban most types of semi automatic weapons. The Supreme Court just last week declined to review a state ban on semiautomic weapons.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Herbologist]
#22642223 - 12/11/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: No automatic weapons. Very limited conceal carry. All ammo and gun purchases are registered and go through a background check. Gun control works, just look at Switzerland.
Civilians here can't buy automatic weapons
What about the second amendment
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Patlal]
#22642234 - 12/11/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Slightly off-topic, but Australia came up early in this thread, and Australia's gun control policy rather interested me last time it came up. The thing I find most interesting about Australia's gun regulation is not the impact on homicides, but rather the impact on suicides:
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n 2011, Harvard's David Hemenway and Mary Vriniotis reviewed the research on Australia's suicide and homicide rate after the NFA. Their conclusion was clear: "The NFA seems to have been incredibly successful in terms of lives saved."
What they found is a decline in both suicide and homicide rates after the NFA. The average firearm suicide rate in Australia in the seven years after the bill declined by 57 percent compared with the seven years prior. The average firearm homicide rate went down by about 42 percent.
Now, Australia's homicide rate was already declining before the NFA was implemented — so you can't attribute all of the drops to the new laws. But there's good reason to believe the NFA, especially the buyback provisions, mattered a great deal in contributing to those declines.
http://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback
Have seen issues regarding illegal guns in Australia tied to criminal violence, but the suicide factor was quite a dramatic drop.
Yet Australia has the "euthanasia loophole" with regards to canned suicide
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We asked the man behind the company and euthanasia advocate Dr Philip Nitschke, who in 1996 became the world's first physician to administer a legal, lethal injection in Northern Australia. The Australian government later quashed the North's euthanasia law, so Philip set up an organization called Exit International to help advise over-fifties on taking matters into their own hands. Since then he's pioneered several suicide devices, written three books, and formed a political party, all in the pursuit of legalized euthanasia.
What I find really interesting is that the year of the first legal lethal injection was in the same year as the largest mass shooting. The two are not likely related in any direct way; but it is an interesting perspective to look at how Australia has changed through time in a more general sense, rather than just the gun laws.
Ignoring murders, gun laws can have dramatic effect on death by firearms from suicide.
Suicide is also a whole other major issue of consideration though -- if someone is set on dying a gun serves to make it faster, but banning guns does not automatically give those people the structure and help they actually need.
Back on topic, would generally expect a better rate of response from a legally armed and properly trained citizen than from the police, but I live in Canada so gun control is already a thing here making police the only option for me anyway. Take interest in the debate over gun rights in the US, but am not actually impacted by it and thus find myself more interested in observing and taking in information.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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You know what else stops mass shootings? The inability to shoot people.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
#22642240 - 12/11/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: No automatic weapons. Very limited conceal carry. All ammo and gun purchases are registered and go through a background check. Gun control works, just look at Switzerland.
Civilians here can't buy automatic weapons
What about the second amendment
Further proving your ignorance.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Ihateyou]
#22642241 - 12/11/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That kind of common sense is unacceptable.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Ihateyou]
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Ihateyou said: You know what else stops mass shootings? The inability to shoot people.
Like when? When you dont have hands or your arthritis is too advanced to pull the trigger?
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Herbologist]
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koods said: No automatic weapons. Very limited conceal carry. All ammo and gun purchases are registered and go through a background check. Gun control works, just look at Switzerland.
Civilians here can't buy automatic weapons
What about the second amendment
Further proving your ignorance.
I'm ignorant? You think civilians can't buy automatic weapons in the us.
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An average civilian with no military background or law enforcement background cannot walk into a store and buy an automatic weapon.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Herbologist]
#22642253 - 12/11/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's not what you said.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
#22642255 - 12/11/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry I had to clarify for the libtard
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
#22642288 - 12/11/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Here's two simple facts
We have more armed citizens than any developed nation. We have more mass shootings than any developed nation.
Simple question: Do more armed citizens reduce the number of mass shootings?
There's nothing simple about dealing with lunatics...whether they have guns, bombs or something else
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Uzziel]
#22642296 - 12/11/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Higher population leads to higher probability of violent, murderous people who can access guns.
Scary.
Time to shop online for a Lethal Weapon 5.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Uzziel]
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We have more armed citizens than any developed nation. We have more mass shootings than any developed nation.
Simple question: Do more armed citizens reduce the number of mass shootings?
There's nothing simple about dealing with lunatics...whether they have guns, bombs or something else
Koods overlooks the socioeconomic factors of this ordeal
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: ManianFH]
#22643064 - 12/11/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Dude, there are shootings in Australia, but a tiny tiny fraction of what there is in America. I can't stress this point enough.
Australia hasn't had a MASS shootings since 1996. USA, 1052 shootings in 1066 days. It's that simple.
Look here:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-america-gun-violence
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/06/australia-hasnt-had-a-mass-shooting-since-1996/
Each year in Australia, Alcohol kills 5,475 people and sends 156,950 more to the hospital. This includes people who were victims of those intoxicated by alcohol. Let's leave tobacco out of the equation right now cause those numbers are lol.
My point is, if your country is so high and mighty and cares about it's citizens lives and well being, why are these far more deadly elements still accepted? You know why, because just like in the USA, the dollar reigns supreme. So get off your high horse my good sir and join the rest of us, your country is ruled by hipocrites just as well.
I'll give it to the US actually for doing it's best not to strip freedoms from it's citizens.
http://theconversation.com/australias-daily-alcohol-toll-15-deaths-and-430-hospitalisations-29906
Man, I have no pride about Australia whatsoever. I have no love for government, my only point to make was about gun laws. I'm on a mushroom forum. I love mushies! They're a Schedule 1 substance here, which is the highest penalty possible.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
#22644092 - 12/11/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: No automatic weapons. Very limited conceal carry. All ammo and gun purchases are registered and go through a background check. Gun control works, just look at Switzerland.
how many people are killed in the US with legally owned machine guns?
when's the last time someone was shot with one of these?
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#22644097 - 12/11/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Koods will tell you it's the wealthy that are the real criminals
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
#22644270 - 12/11/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Gun deaths in USA 2015: 12500 Gun deaths in AUS 2015: 226
hahahahahaha
Nah it's not working.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#22644302 - 12/11/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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crazy that Obama has sold more guns than probably any other president. He has to be getting kickbacks behind the scenes.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: ManianFH]
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Im at the point where I think cops and people in the army, security should be allowed to carry and the rest should be gotten through buy back programs.. no one's going to pay a lot of money to murder someone if they can save some money and just stab them
either that or track bullets and guns
america is stupid though fuck this place can't even smoke pot
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Konyap]
#22644418 - 12/11/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: Im at the point where I think cops and people in the army, security should be allowed to carry and the rest should be gotten through buy back programs.. no one's going to pay a lot of money to murder someone if they can save some money and just stab them
either that or track bullets and guns
america is stupid though fuck this place can't even smoke pot
Oh fuck off
Buy back programs? Guess what there is still a black market genius
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: ManianFH]
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crazy that Obama has sold more guns than probably any other president. He has to be getting kickbacks behind the scenes.
He surely is.
Black Friday had the biggest single day requests for background checks, ever.
Also, today I waited 5 hours to get one
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
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crazy that Obama has sold more guns than probably any other president. He has to be getting kickbacks behind the scenes.
He surely is.
Black Friday had the biggest single day requests for background checks, ever.
Also, today I waited 5 hours to get one
I just bought a lower receiver (to build an ar-15) for my dad for christmas. The part cost $50, the cost of californias legal transfer fees and such - $125
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: ManianFH]
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crazy that Obama has sold more guns than probably any other president. He has to be getting kickbacks behind the scenes.
with all these record sals of guns under the obama administrations why is the homicide rate dropping?
clearly gun control isnt the driving force
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/true-cost-of-gun-violence-in-america
says right here it cost 230billion dollars a year for you dumb fucks to shoot each other
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Konyap]
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says right here it cost 230billion dollars a year for you dumb fucks to shoot each other
So it costs 230b dollars a year, that money doesn't just dissappear it's invested into the economy.
Paying for people's jobs, technology, materials that were manufactured.
Money makes the world go 'round. Welcome to capitalism
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Konyap]
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that's not nice, tell him ur sorry
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Konyap]
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Your IQ shines through the quality and content of your posts
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Knygga, u stop that
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/true-cost-of-gun-violence-in-america
says right here it cost 230billion dollars a year for you dumb fucks to shoot each other
wanna know the real cost. about 50 cents because that's what it costs to buy a bullet now that obama has instituted new taxes on bullets so the real cost is around $90,000 if each shooter emptied a magazine into someone
now, what's the cost of not shooting an assailant that's trying to kill you? your family suffers for starters, then there's the whole lost productivity at work, apparently dead people cant do their job but what's the monetary cost?
$8 million per murder, $217,000 per rape, $87,000 for aggravated assault, all together, it's more than $5,000,000,000 per year, this isnt a ficitional number that comes from some lefty retard site like mother jones that loves to push some real horse shit such as:
will the earth survive the next 24 hours? http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/12/will-planet-survive-next-24-hours
and of course calling obama a pussy was the lowest of the low http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2015/12/fox-news-ralph-peters-obama-terror
you get more accurate and unbiased information from the weekly world news http://weeklyworldnews.com/
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Prisoner#1 said: yes, the fucking do
and this one was in Chicago, had it not been for the quick, heroic actions of this uber driver then there's no telling how many people could have been killed
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-uber-driver-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html
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Authorities say no charges will be filed against an Uber driver who shot and wounded a gunman who opened fire on a crowd of people in Logan Square over the weekend.
The driver had a concealed-carry permit and acted in the defense of himself and others, Assistant State's Attorney Barry Quinn said in court Sunday.
A group of people had been walking in front of the driver around 11:50 p.m. Friday in the 2900 block of North Milwaukee Avenue when Everardo Custodio, 22, began firing into the crowd, Quinn said.
The driver pulled out a handgun and fired six shots at Custodio, hitting him several times, according to court records. Responding officers found Custodio lying on the ground, bleeding, Quinn said. No other injuries were reported.
Custodio was taken to Advocate Illinois Masonic hospital, where he was treated for gunshot wounds to the shin, thigh and lower back, authorities said.
Custodio, of the 2900 block of North Ridgeway Avenue, was charged with aggravated assault and unlawful use of a weapon charges. He was denied bond during the Sunday court hearing.
The Uber driver, a 47-year-old resident of Little Italy, provided police with a valid concealed-carry permit and a firearm owner's identification card, Quinn said.
It's all about the spin. Anyone who can't see that needs to open their eyes. whoever controls the information and whatever perception they'd like us to receive is brainwashingly entertaining. i cant think of anyone more deserving of being called"fuckbags" more than the media.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: sprinkles]
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So the Chicago tribune spun a story cheering on a law abiding, responsible gun carrying citizen saving people's lives?
Yeah, right
They told the story how it was. I live 40 minutes north
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22644944 - 12/12/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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stoppit dammit. quit imposing your insanely radical beliefs on our vulnerable and impressionable youngsters.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: sprinkles]
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sprinkles said: stoppit dammit. quit imposing your insanely radical beliefs on our vulnerable and impressionable youngsters.
Tell that to every liberal in the nation
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#22644960 - 12/12/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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whatever. you're all insane with your liberal vs conservative stupid ass bullshit. i seriously hate all of you people.
sorry dont mind me just my "i hate people why do they live?" daily rant thing I do.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: sprinkles]
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all the mean rich people are robbing people
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Konyap]
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#22648320 - 12/12/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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KnyggaPlease said: So the Chicago tribune spun a story cheering on a law abiding, responsible gun carrying citizen saving people's lives?
Yeah, right
They told the story how it was. I live 40 minutes north
Yeah that puts you in the rich north side, where you have no real exposure to the real shit going on in chicagos south side.
Go get dinner at the Popeyes at 26th and California, and walk back home.
You won't even make it a block.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22648343 - 12/12/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's crazy, a couple of terrorists go on a shooting spree at a company christmas party in the firearms unfriendly state of california and 14 people wind up dead
a couple of terrorists decide to go on a shooting spree at an art show in gun friendly texas and the only fatalities they have are a couple of terrorists
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: ZippoZ]
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ZippoZ said: you have no real exposure to the real shit going on in chicagos south side.
Go get dinner at the Popeyes at 26th and California, and walk back home.
You won't even make it a block.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22648690 - 12/13/15 02:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm beginning to change my mind about USA and guns. Ultimately it's a good thing as it keeps the population down.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
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Jufin said: Yes, but no guns, no shootings, fuckin Australia cunt.
Yeah well, when this happens I am going to run around hacking heads with a machete just to prove a point.
If 1,000 people have to die each year in mass shootings to protect the rights of the rest, then so be it. I gladly ad myself to the pile of 1,000.
-------------------- [quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
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Psychoslut said:
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Jufin said: Yes, but no guns, no shootings, fuckin Australia cunt.
Yeah well, when this happens I am going to run around hacking heads with a machete just to prove a point.
If 1,000 people have to die each year in mass shootings to protect the rights of the rest, then so be it. I gladly ad myself to the pile of 1,000.
This again reinforces my theory of the positive effect of gun laws in USA keeping the population down.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22649246 - 12/13/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ZippoZ said: you have no real exposure to the real shit going on in chicagos south side.
Go get dinner at the Popeyes at 26th and California, and walk back home.
You won't even make it a block.
I have exposure.
As I used to get my drugs from there... Yeah its a fucked up place however, by no means is it a death sentence
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#22655409 - 12/14/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I stayed there for a week with a friend at his mom's place, the only incident we had was him getting a ticket for not having a parking permit for the right day
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
#22655473 - 12/14/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Psychoslut said:
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Jufin said: Yes, but no guns, no shootings, fuckin Australia cunt.
Yeah well, when this happens I am going to run around hacking heads with a machete just to prove a point.
If 1,000 people have to die each year in mass shootings to protect the rights of the rest, then so be it. I gladly ad myself to the pile of 1,000.
These are the people that believe in lax gun laws
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Ihateyou]
#22655508 - 12/14/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What? It's funny because I am willing to die over it? Death is better than living unarmed and in fear of machetes and armed thugs I would say.
-------------------- [quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22655539 - 12/14/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: yes, the fucking do
Prisoner #1 for president. "YES THE FUCKING DO!"
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
#22655543 - 12/14/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're about to run around and hack people with a machete to prove that guns don't make a difference in murder rates? Even if that's true I wouldn't want someone like you having one
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Ihateyou]
#22655553 - 12/14/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, well I sleep with a remengton 1187 to my left, a russian sks with a banana clip to my right, a glock 17 under the pillow, and a copy of the United States constitution and a flag flying in my room, so you better talk to your senators about how you feel
-------------------- [quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Ihateyou]
#22655562 - 12/14/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know, the SKS is dangerous over-kill for home defense but you never know when you might need to chop through the walls and kill folks before they ever have a chance to get a bead on you
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
#22655886 - 12/14/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would rather be killed by getting shot than be sliced up by a knife, thats sick!
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22655910 - 12/14/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd rather just not die, that's why everyone should have an equal opposition to anything criminals may have.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22655920 - 12/14/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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And no smart-asses, Im not saying that because mexican drug cartels and ISIS has RPGs, dirty bombs, anthrax, and IEDs that we all need to pack missiles on our back and surround our house with buried munitions.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
#22656035 - 12/14/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think you meant to reply to me. What makes you speak in such a manner if so?
If it's a reference to earlier posts, I did not read them. I just saw the word 'knife'. It crossed my mind "man I would much rather be shot"
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22656058 - 12/14/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You replied to me
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
#22656061 - 12/14/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Psychoslut said: I'd rather just not die
I can guarantee that you will die, I'd even bet money on it
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Psychoslut said: And no smart-asses, Im not saying that because mexican drug cartels and ISIS has RPGs, dirty bombs, anthrax, and IEDs that we all need to pack missiles on our back and surround our house with buried munitions.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
#22656106 - 12/14/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Psychoslut said: Yeah, well I sleep with a remengton 1187 to my left, a russian sks with a banana clip to my right, a glock 17 under the pillow, and a copy of the United States constitution and a flag flying in my room, so you better talk to your senators about how you feel
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Psychoslut said: And no smart-asses, Im not saying that because mexican drug cartels and ISIS has RPGs, dirty bombs, anthrax, and IEDs that we all need to pack missiles on our back and surround our house with buried munitions.
The irony
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
#22656161 - 12/14/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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How the fuck is that ironic, retard? How the fuck does an RPG, capable of taking out the better part of a wal-mart compare to small arms? How does a flag compare to lining the interstate going past my house with under ground homemade land mines?
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22656170 - 12/14/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Psychoslut said: I'd rather just not die
I can guarantee that you will die, I'd even bet money on it
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Psychoslut said: And no smart-asses, Im not saying that because mexican drug cartels and ISIS has RPGs, dirty bombs, anthrax, and IEDs that we all need to pack missiles on our back and surround our house with buried munitions.
Alright, alright I'd rather just not die by the hands of some shithead with red hair, a half retarded kid with mommy issues, or a stone age muslim with ideas of becoming rich and famous in the California/United States by starting civil war.
-------------------- [quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
#22656173 - 12/14/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmmm I did not mean to give off the scent of a "smart ass". False alarm partner! Must be a local septic tank.. maybe some leakage..
Okay, okay, okay.. now i'm being a smart ass.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22656184 - 12/14/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's fucking hilarious because now that finals are about over, I just got a phone call from a buddy of mine that wants me to dig up his septic while the ground is thawed out and help him re-route some new piping and shit to put the septic out further away from the kids play area.
-------------------- [quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
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Psychoslut said: How the fuck is that ironic, retard? How the fuck does an RPG, capable of taking out the better part of a wal-mart compare to small arms? How does a flag compare to lining the interstate going past my house with under ground homemade land mines?
The self denial
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
#22656217 - 12/14/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You sound like my piece of shit liberal cousin from Minnesota. I think your Democrat turd cutter is bleeding at the thought of someone being capable of cutting down crowds of Muslims at a moments notice. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
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Psychoslut said: You sound like my piece of shit liberal cousin from Minnesota. I think your Democrat turd cutter is bleeding at the thought of someone being capable of cutting down crowds of Muslims at a moments notice. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow, you really are a badass!
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
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Jufin said:
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Psychoslut said: You sound like my piece of shit liberal cousin from Minnesota. I think your Democrat turd cutter is bleeding at the thought of someone being capable of cutting down crowds of Muslims at a moments notice. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow, you really are a badass!
Bout time you recognized.
-------------------- [quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
#22656294 - 12/14/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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How many Muslims do you reckon you could take out with one clip?
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Dr.Wongburger
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
#22656297 - 12/14/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is weird.. maybe I'm a crazy person who has stalked you for a long time, made a shroomery account because of you and found your friends septic tank and messed it up and made a reference of it to you here on the shroomery as a first response to you because I know you are on this forum. nahhh I'm just messsin Gnome sing mane. Just messin around.. hehehehehmewhahahahahah
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
#22656311 - 12/14/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jufin said: How many Muslims do you reckon you could take out with one clip?
Well at least 1/3 of the full metal jackets will take out two from a 30 round clip, and its got another one duct taped to it so you help me on the math because I dont do algebra im just an accountant.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
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Jufin said: How many Muslims do you reckon you could take out with one clip?
Well at least 1/3 of the full metal jackets will take out two from a 30 round clip, and its got another one duct taped to it so you help me on the math because I dont do algebra im just an accountant.
How about Muslim children though? Surely they would need less bullets.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Jufin]
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Yeah but because they keep a low profile and hunker behind there moms tent you miss sometimes and just get flesh wounds in on mom but thats what the bayonet is for.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
#22686881 - 12/22/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/293806744/HEN15F53-Firearms-EXOs
There's a bill that would nullify any executive orders on firearms marking them as advisory only.
It would require congressional approval to pass it as law
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#22686898 - 12/22/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It would require the president to sign it.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
#22686981 - 12/22/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Congress can bypass a veto with a 2/3rd majority vote in house and senate
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: Psychoslut]
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Psychoslut said: Yeah but because they keep a low profile and hunker behind there moms tent you miss sometimes and just get flesh wounds in on mom but thats what the bayonet is for.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: KnyggaPlease]
#22687098 - 12/22/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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KnyggaPlease said: Congress can bypass a veto with a 2/3rd majority vote in house and senate
There aren't enough votes to override a veto. If it hasn't happened yet it's not going to happen.
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Re: do armed citizens stop mass shootings? [Re: koods]
#22688961 - 12/22/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What if they had another government shutdown over that?
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