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Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions
    #2263700 - 01/22/04 09:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I can't find Red Devil Lye at the hardware stores in my area.
Any ideas for NaOH anywhere else over the counter?

Other question: Has anybody used Coleman camp fuel as their Naptha source?


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: blink]
    #2264264 - 01/22/04 11:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Check your local supermarket.


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: blink]
    #2265046 - 01/23/04 08:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Look at the supermarket (I got mine at Safeway) in the drain cleaner section. I got some other brand of lye, and it works just fine.

As for Coleman fuel, I have used it, yes. It seems to work ok.


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: ChiLong]
    #2265369 - 01/23/04 12:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

many folks report siginifcant amounts of residue after "test evaporating" a sample of coleman's fuel...
consider VPM naphtha (varnish paint manufacture) which is mostly hexane, and usually evaps nice & clean...


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: gnrm23]
    #2265409 - 01/23/04 12:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the ideas!
I will check out the supermarket later today and post what I find.
VPM naptha, what does this M mean by manufacture?
I will just get some Varnish & Paint remover? Any brands that I can be a slave to (for uniform quality results)?

Hexane at what percentage would you take it at? 95-99%/100%?
I have heard things about Kerosene and Anhydrous Methanol being used in an extraction as well, any ideas? I have read all the teks btw, just trying to put all the pieces together

The is the one I am going to use



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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: blink]
    #2265611 - 01/23/04 01:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Go to a Sherwin Williams paint store, or something.

Home Depot has some too.

You want the big metal things.


They have all kinds of goodies at SW, actually.

HCl, Naptha, Xylene, all kinds.


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #2265690 - 01/23/04 02:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

HCL?


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #2265707 - 01/23/04 02:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ok, I just hit the supermarkets and hardware stores all over town.

the only source of Sodium Hyroxide was a no name drain cleaner.
900mL of liquid drain cleaner and the warning speaks of NaOH, KOH, Ammonium OH, and Sodium Metasilicate.
Good stuff?

And the camp fuel I got was Colemans (it has "rust protector" added, I am looking up what that may be...)

Has anybody had any experiences with these brands or similar? residues?

I will work on borrowing a digicam so I can document my progress and let psychopsilocyber put it up on his DMT Extraction Web Page

Anybody experienced with some last minute pointers?
Thanks to those who responded


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: blink]
    #2265745 - 01/23/04 02:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

that liquid drain cleaner is big no no you only want NaOH


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: blink]
    #2265841 - 01/23/04 03:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

blinki:
and that "rust protector" is some sort of petrol product with a very high boiling point (when compared with naphtha/ligroine/pet.ether) & will almost certainly leave a nasty oily residue when evaporated... use the campstove fuel for campstoves...
jeez, have you visited dmtworld yet ???


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: gnrm23]
    #2265845 - 01/23/04 03:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

oh, and lye (sodium hydroxide) is used to manufacture home-made soap... as well as to clean drains...


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    #2265893 - 01/23/04 03:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: tuco_ramirez]
    #2265990 - 01/23/04 04:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

DMT - DiMethylTrytamine
not DXM- dextromorphan

and NaoH is very easily available from places on the net, very very cheap too.


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: Infrared]
    #2266147 - 01/23/04 05:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I live in canada, small town.
If anybody can tell me what brand other than Red Devil to look for I would love to buy it. I know what I am looking for but it is honestly not there, should i hit up the home depot?

The only camp fuel that was availible where I looked was the kind that had the rust protector added so I just bought it for a lack of options. I'm not planning on distilling it so I guess I will return it and wait to you guys suggest something to look for specifically (I know Sodium Hydroxide, NaOH, Caustic Soda, Lye, etc but I need a place/brand to go to and get)

Thanks again for your comments, I don't want anything spoling this extract


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: blink]
    #2266196 - 01/23/04 05:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, you should definitely go to home depot if you have one locally. Just look in the household cleaning items and you will find Red Devil near the other drain cleaners. I know for a fact they sell this. Many supermarkets and practically every hardware store I have been to has Red Devil also, it is a very common product (at least here in the US) Also, home depot sells VM&P Naptha and the muriatic acid that you will need. Don't go using some colemans fuel or other shit like that otherwise you will end up with a bunch of stuff that you definitely don't want to be smoking.

Hope this helps.


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Re: Replacement for Red Devil in DMT extractions [Re: blink]
    #2266728 - 01/23/04 08:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

>I will work on borrowing a digicam so I can document my progress and let psychopsilocyber put it up on his DMT Extraction Web Page

That's not for sure, I don't even remember talking to you about that, but we'll see. If anything you could put the pics on a new web-page and I'll put the link to that site on mine.

Ok so either look into distillation equipment or just find somewhere to buy the pure naphtha. Don't buy the NaOH unless it's pure, same with the naptha unless you can distill it.

If in the end you do not get what you expected check my extraction diagnosis and if you still can't figure out what went wrong leave a post at dmt world. I'm pretty sure everything you need to know is in that web page(except sources), and if you get stuck DMT World is there for you.


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