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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: relic]
    #25532685 - 10/12/18 04:09 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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I believe the climate is changing, but I don't think humans contribute as much as we think. Someone here tried to tell me that humans are responsible for 100% of the change.





humans are clearly the major cause of our warming climate.  i agree that humans don't account for exactly 100% of the warming, but does the percentage matter?




It matters because this stance allows XUL to appear credible to people with triple digit IQs, but still get to bash al gore and the libtards with his friends.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: relic]
    #25533093 - 10/12/18 07:38 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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I believe the climate is changing, but I don't think humans contribute as much as we think. Someone here tried to tell me that humans are responsible for 100% of the change.

I call bullshit.




humans are clearly the major cause of our warming climate.  i agree that humans don't account for exactly 100% of the warming, but does the percentage matter?




I was that person, and this was my post:

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100 percent of global warming over the past century has been caused by humans. In 2013, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fifth Assessment Report stated a clear expert consensus that: “It is extremely likely [defined as 95-100% certainty] that more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951 to 2010 was caused by the anthropogenic [human-caused] increase in greenhouse gas concentrations and other anthropogenic forcings together.

Then in 2014, research in the journal Climate Risk Management using rigorous statistical techniques revealed an objective link between global temperature increases and human activity, with a probability exceeding 99.999 percent. In fact, according to a Skeptical Science review of studies on human and natural contributions to global warming:

“Most studies showed that recent natural contributions have been in the cooling direction, thereby masking part of the human contribution and in some cases causing it to exceed 100% of the total warming.”



Further reading:
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
https://futurism.com/humans-caused-100-of-the-past-centurys-global-warming/






@XUL, what leads you to denounce the above post as bullshit? Because it looks to me like you are disregarding the established scientific consensus in favour of your unfounded feelings.

What's that thing I hear people decrying liberals for? "Feels before reals." What makes your behaviour regarding climate change different?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25541759 - 10/16/18 11:26 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Great interview (Cathy Newman), pure entertainment.

"Channel 4 interview on immigration- German vs Polish Perspective"


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 3
    #25545204 - 10/17/18 04:52 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I wish we had more people like that Polish guy in the British parliament.

BTW Channel 4 is a government controlled channel.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Will Scarlet] * 2
    #25546361 - 10/18/18 06:20 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Three Kansas men calling themselves ‘Crusaders’ charged in terror plot targeting Muslim immigrants

PATRIOT PRAYER MEMBERS ARMED WITH SNIPERS POSITIONED THEMSELVES ON ROOF AHEAD OF AUGUST PROTEST, POLICE REVEAL


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I wish we had more people like that Polish guy in the British parliament.





I'm really glad we don't have as many guys like this right wing Pole.
He claims that child asylum seekers are breaking the law (not true) so fuck em. Why even pretend its about the law when he is open its about Islam.
And you want more of that in the UK? Jesus


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
    #25546619 - 10/18/18 08:39 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Tipote said:
Three Kansas men calling themselves ‘Crusaders’ charged in terror plot targeting Muslim immigrants

PATRIOT PRAYER MEMBERS ARMED WITH SNIPERS POSITIONED THEMSELVES ON ROOF AHEAD OF AUGUST PROTEST, POLICE REVEAL


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Will Scarlet said:
I wish we had more people like that Polish guy in the British parliament.





I really glad we don't have as many guys like this right wing Pole.
He claims that child asylum seekers are breaking the law (not true) so fuck em. Why even pretend its about the law when he is open its about Islam.
And you want more of that in the UK? Jesus




No, fuck the EU elite trying to force a sovereign nation to take in economic migrants and their children.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-17/international-disgrace-france-busted-dumping-migrants-across-italian-border

https://www.thelocal.it/20181016/french-police-admit-taking-two-migrants-over-the-italian-border-by-mistake

If bringing in economic migrants is such a great idea, why do the countries advocating for them always want them in another country? :lol:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #25554658 - 10/21/18 06:38 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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If bringing in economic migrants is such a great idea, why do the countries advocating for them always want them in another country? :lol:




countries are made up of many people, opinions can be divided. Are you referring to an example?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
    #25554661 - 10/21/18 06:38 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
    #25554763 - 10/21/18 07:42 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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If bringing in economic migrants is such a great idea, why do the countries advocating for them always want them in another country? :lol:




countries are made up of many people, opinions can be divided. Are you referring to an example?




If you have been paying attention, much of the debate is about Germany, France and others attempting to force other EU nations to accept their quota of migrants.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/922525/EU-latest-Germany-less-migrant-aid-Hungary-Poland-Angela-Merkel

Again, if accepting broke third world migrants is such a great idea, why would they want them in another nation?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 2
    #25554782 - 10/21/18 07:49 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

If solving climate change is such a good idea how come one nation doesn’t just do it by themselves?


I have a very good brain.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #25554788 - 10/21/18 07:51 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

"The far right in Germany"


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25554794 - 10/21/18 07:54 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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If solving climate change is such a good idea how come one nation doesn’t just do it by themselves?


I have a very good brain.




The selling point is that these people enhance the existing culture from a social and economic perspective. 

It should be an easy sell and the more the better, correct?  Yet, even the leaders advocating the accepting of these migrants don't want them in their own nation.

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    #25554857 - 10/21/18 08:27 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

That is absolutely not the selling point.

The selling point is that these human beings are desperate and we are bound by international and federal law to help them, or at the very least process them and analyze their status.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25554862 - 10/21/18 08:28 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

The whole “immigrants enhance our society” talking point only exists because the right is constantly pissing their pants about how a caravan of destitute Hondurans will destro Western civilization.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25554878 - 10/21/18 08:35 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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That is absolutely not the selling point.

The selling point is that these human beings are desperate and we are bound by international and federal law to help them, or at the very least process them and analyze their status.




No, "human beings are desperate" isn't an excuse for being in millions of economic migrants. Merkel and others also sold the idea from an economic perspective. Did you forget these unskilled and broke migrants from Africa and the Middle East were going to fund the retirement pensions for the German population?  :rofl2:

"process them"

Yeah, that really works so great with a bunch of fake passports and liars in the game of scamming. The process should have been closed borders and deportation, now the future is going to be ugly because of people living in a fantasy land.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25554890 - 10/21/18 08:40 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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The whole “immigrants enhance our society” talking point only exists because the right is constantly pissing their pants about how a caravan of destitute Hondurans will destro Western civilization.




Well, an open border policy for the past 40 years really hasn't helped the nation at all.

So why would anyone be thrilled to bring in more poor people into the US when there's tens of millions struggling in poverty today? 

You obviously will never get it and that's why the US/EU are in the shape it's in today.  Just wait until the economics and debt breaks loose, it will get ugly.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #25554918 - 10/21/18 09:01 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Open border policy lmfao


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25554925 - 10/21/18 09:05 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

You just can’t seem to grasp that accepting refugees for processing is because of international and federal law, not to make SJW liberals feel better.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #25556973 - 10/22/18 04:43 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
If solving climate change is such a good idea how come one nation doesn’t just do it by themselves?


I have a very good brain.




The selling point is that these people enhance the existing culture from a social and economic perspective. 

It should be an easy sell and the more the better, correct?  Yet, even the leaders advocating the accepting of these migrants don't want them in their own nation.



They can say whatever they want. But the goal isn't social and its not to help those in need. Its purely economic in the sense that they are effectively flooding Europe with cheap labor. If politicians and governments are really in the beds with big business then that should make a lot of sense to you. We and they know that any immigrant will take any job for any amount of pay.( im not saying they're bad people or anything. Its just the reality of their situation. They're just thankful to be here and being a poor European is definitely better than wherever came from) When the populations of any country get too comfortable financially or otherwise they feel privileged enough to not do certain jobs or work below what they feel is not worth the pay. So businesses will have no choice but to offer perks or increase their wages. But that effects their bottom line and is the least attractive option. What big companies want is a surplus and float of cheap labor so that they can keep their expenses down and profits up. To stay competitive. As in there will always be someone willing to take the job regardless of pay.
So the reason behind the migrant crisis isn't to ruin European culture, to help those in need or to enhance the existing culture. You can ultimately say that the reason is capitalism. The world today is about making money. Helping those in need etc are all on the back burner. They dont matter. Money matters. And how can they make more money? By flooding the market with cheap labor to stagnate wages and to help their profits.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #25557061 - 10/22/18 06:02 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

> feigns concern about wages and livelihood of working class
> votes to elect party that is the biggest existential threat to the domestic working class


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