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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 2
    #24008297 - 01/13/17 09:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Are your standards so low for Muslims that you measure their success in Western culture based on if they're "dangerous" or not?  :facepalm:



If people aren't dangerous then it's none of my business what they choose to believe.

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How come you don't measure their success based on domestic crime rates, embracing civil liberties, embracing democracy, embracing education, employment, and being respectful to Western culture?



We never discussed how I measure success.  Being successful isn't a prerequisite for living in America.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24008530 - 01/14/17 12:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah I can sort of see that The Espastic lives in a very privileged, middle-class bubble. He is trying to be like Malkuthian but does not have the life experience.




I grew up dirt poor. My father was in the navy and my mother worked retail.





You had two parents with jobs and you felt hard done by?

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Privileged as fuck.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24008532 - 01/14/17 12:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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American Muslims who can afford to live in SF are the absolute cream of the cream of what the Muslim world has to offer.

They are absolutely in no way representative of the hordes of inbred plebs who have driven the European working classes out of their traditional neighbourhoods.





:kaneclap:



Well then I suppose the same can argument can be made for European Muslims who can afford to live in Paris.




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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 3
    #24008928 - 01/14/17 05:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah I can sort of see that The Espastic lives in a very privileged, middle-class bubble. He is trying to be like Malkuthian but does not have the life experience.




I grew up dirt poor. My father was in the navy and my mother worked retail.





You had two parents with jobs and you felt hard done by?

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Privileged as fuck.




No you said I was in a very privileged, middle class bubble.

I was not. I am not. Dont hurt yourself backpedaling.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24009877 - 01/14/17 01:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Two parents working full time jobs in the wealthiest country on Earth and he feels hard done by.

Absolutely clueless.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 3
    #24009893 - 01/14/17 02:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So when you say "very privileged middle-class bubble" he is supposed to interpret that as middle class not according to the standard of the country hi lives in but middle class compared to the whole world? To guess that you meant to do such a comparison when you wrote "very privileged middle-class bubble" is close to impossible. Don't blame others for not understanding you in situations like this.

In fact it feels so obvious what you mean by your first statement that I'd rather believe that you are now trying to retroactively claim that you meant something else, then to think you just expressed yourself poorly...

Smells like dishonest behavior again.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 3
    #24009964 - 01/14/17 02:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Two parents working full time jobs in the wealthiest country on Earth and he feels hard done by.

Absolutely clueless.




So do you think all people living under the poverty line are very privileged and living in a middle class bubble? Or just liberals?

Face it, you made a wildly inaccurate assumption. Deal with it. If you want to argue standards of living per capita by nations, go make a thread about it.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24010129 - 01/14/17 03:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No-one who has two parents both working for American wages is under the poverty line.

Utterly clueless.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 1
    #24010138 - 01/14/17 03:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Did i say my mother worked full time or is that another facet of my childhood you know better than I do?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24010206 - 01/14/17 04:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe talk to someone who grew up on welfare if you want to learn something about poverty.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 1
    #24010449 - 01/14/17 06:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

are we having a poverty based dick-measuring contest? if so, why?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
    #24011258 - 01/15/17 03:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Because Victor thinks being a poor new Zealand hillbilly with a nazi family makes him understand all of this a little bit better than the rest of us?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
    #24011288 - 01/15/17 04:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, a hillbilly with a Master's degree in psychology who has been around the world four times :facepalm:

I've probably even been to the town you live in. It must be near Umea.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 4
    #24011296 - 01/15/17 05:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My comment was meant to ridicule your idea that your arguments are worth more based on your background and experience, because if your arguments need that kind of backing they must by really lousy... A good argument does not need the be backed by "I have a diploma"... "my family are nazis so I know more then you about the far right". "I have traveled more then you so I know more about cultures". Get over yourself already.

Also: your constant claims regarding your excellent experiences suggest that you think you have better experience than others. Which suggest you actually know what experience other people in here have. Without enough input data you assume you are better than others... Narcissistic tendencies?

And when I ridicule you for this behavior, you make more claims about your fantastic background and experience.... Epic fucking face palm.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
    #24011304 - 01/15/17 05:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You've got nothing. Just impotent rage :shrug:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 1
    #24011830 - 01/15/17 10:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Maybe talk to someone who grew up on welfare if you want to learn something about poverty.





Cant be done. I'm trapped in my over privileged middle class bubble.

Hey, do you know when my internet bill is due? I know its coming up but I dont remember the exact date. Thanks.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 3
    #24011895 - 01/15/17 11:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hold on a second.  A globetrotting psychologist is chastising people ITT for being privileged, while at the same time questioning the perspectives of "privileged" people because they can't afford to travel the world 4 times?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 3
    #24011908 - 01/15/17 11:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You've got nothing. Just impotent rage :shrug:




He seems like one of the more level headed posters here to me.

Impotent rage :lol: says the guy losing his shit about muslims on the opposite side of the planet.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: ballsalsa]
    #24011913 - 01/15/17 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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hold on a second.  A globetrotting psychologist is chastising people ITT for being privileged, while at the same time questioning the perspectives of "privileged" people because they can't afford to travel the world 4 times?

:wonka:




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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: ballsalsa]
    #24012644 - 01/15/17 05:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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hold on a second.  A globetrotting psychologist is chastising people ITT for being privileged, while at the same time questioning the perspectives of "privileged" people because they can't afford to travel the world 4 times?

:wonka:




It's a complicated balancing act. If I pull it off I can discredit both Tipote and The Espastic.


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