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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #23999007 - 01/10/17 06:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Really?  I don't want the economic migrants of the EU to be deported back to their country of origin?  That's news to me. :lol:



You said it, qman:

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Who said they should be deported to Syria?  Even Trump stated they should have safe zones for these people in their region of the world




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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23999302 - 01/10/17 07:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Really?  I don't want the economic migrants of the EU to be deported back to their country of origin?  That's news to me. :lol:



You said it, qman:

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Who said they should be deported to Syria?  Even Trump stated they should have safe zones for these people in their region of the world







I don't think a safe zone in the region or country of origin has to be mutually exclusive.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23999342 - 01/10/17 08:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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my point was that it's an awful lot of hysteria over 10000 "suspects", in a country with a population of almost 81 million.





There is also an awful lot of hysteria about how much Germany is suffering. They have a huge population and the best economy in Europe.

Greece has no economy a tiny population and centruries (like atleast as long as Islam has been a thing) of grievance against Muslims, yet are swamped with refugees.



libs and not white-white. off-white.





"Libs" I think you mean leftists.


Why are the liberals on here so obsessed with skin color, you guys are almost like nazis with that's shit.

Greeks aren't white? Okay adolf.....



The shit that sucks about Muslims is the religion not their skin color.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: elax420] * 1
    #23999347 - 01/10/17 08:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i didn't claim that they were anything. wtf is with people (unthinkingly) assuming things all the time?

you asked: i told you why: it's because they are libs (leftists, same difference, the innocuous language gets tossed around regardless of context around here, didn't you know?) -- and it's because they are not white-white, just off-white. ie, Germany is white as fuck...Sweden...damn, they white. Greece? not as white.

:shrug: you asked, i told you the reasons why.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23999426 - 01/10/17 08:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Libs and leftists are not the same thing at all.

Libs are centrist/centerleft and believe in the merits of capitalism, or in reforming capitalism, and preach non violence

Leftists are generally communists/socialists/anarchists or all 3, not opposed to violence, and oftentimes promote it. Syriza became a lot less radical but few would call them liberals.




You brought up some weird shit about greeks not being white, as if whiteness is supposed to be the thing that gives your life value. ofc I'm going to call you out on that Neo nazi shit. I don't think you are a nazi but why you are even repeating that nonsense is a mystery to me.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: elax420] * 1
    #23999469 - 01/10/17 08:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

libs and leftists are not da same ting at all. :flowstone:

there happy now?

i mean, i never said they were the same thing...but i just thought you wanted me to repeat what you were saying...i'm really trying here man. really trying to communicate with you.

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You brought up some weird shit about greeks not being white, as if whiteness is supposed to be the thing that gives your life value. ofc I'm going to call you out on that Neo nazi shit. I don't think you are a nazi but why you are even repeating that nonsense is a mystery to me.



wow...how much would say you think about Swiss Cheese? i think it's starting to have an effect.

i never said anything about "value" of whiteness...or anything like that. :lol: holy shit. get a clue. you asked "why not Greek get attn. ???"

the answer is...it's not as white as Sweden and Germany.

that's not me saying i think it's right. i'm saying that's why.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23999506 - 01/10/17 08:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You brought up some nazi argument. I don't care if you think it's right or wrong the fact you repeat that garbage and give it validity is what causes my hostility. I don't tolerate that nazi shit.

Why don't you "get a clue" and learn to write like an adult.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23999555 - 01/10/17 09:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It probably has more to do with economic clout than whiteness per se.  Germany has more money, and is therefore more "important".
Maybe not, i'm just riffing here.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: elax420]
    #23999566 - 01/10/17 09:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You brought up some nazi argument. I don't care if you think it's right or wrong the fact you repeat that garbage and give it validity is what causes my hostility. I don't tolerate that nazi shit.

Why don't you "get a clue" and learn to write like an adult.



no, i'd rather write in the comedic way i'm writing now.
i didn't make a nazi argument. LOL

i simply told you way Greece, whilst they're being bombarded with migrants, is not getting talked about...and it's because like i said. it's not white enough...and it's not right enough.

i didn't do it, so get real, stop being so foolish.

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It probably has more to do with economic clout than whiteness per se.  Germany has more money, and is therefore more "important".
Maybe not, i'm just riffing here.



Germany and Swedish "represent more", to put it simply. Greece represents "bad things" (excess, waste-- the dawn of western and even Islamic thought, oddly enough, LOL) -- Sweden and Germany represent purity in Europe, justice, they command respect

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24000878 - 01/11/17 11:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

According to Akira

White



Not white

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: elax420] * 1
    #24001693 - 01/11/17 04:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

not according to me. LOL

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24001809 - 01/11/17 05:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4109136/Marine-Le-Pen-LEADS-poll-round-French-presidential-voting.html

Her more moderate opponent (Fillon) said- "he would urge the EU to tighten its asylum and immigration policy to counter threats from Islamic terrorists."

Looks like changes are coming to the EU this year.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #24001878 - 01/11/17 05:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/11/church-attendance-increases-conservative-poland/

"Poland is showing signs of being increasingly resistant to globalist liberalism, adopting an ever more culturally conservative approach to issues. The country is also increasingly resistant to mass immigration"

"In April last year, the Polish government announced it would not accept 7,000 migrants it has previously agreed to take under EU-imposed quotas"

Some people might say they're not welcoming to Muslim migrants, but at least they're never going to have blood on their hands, I don't think the rest of the EU will have that luxury.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #24002318 - 01/11/17 08:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Poland is Poland. this is the norm- Poland is might. after their persecution, in the past, solidarity (not per se, but the idealism behind it) is basically a part of their social fabric.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
    #24003566 - 01/12/17 09:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

what I find interesting is that qman can see how European populations can be increasingly pushed to more conservative and violent positions under pressure, but he can't seem to see the parallels in other countries in the same way.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
    #24003602 - 01/12/17 10:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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what I find interesting is that qman can see how European populations can be increasingly pushed to more conservative and violent positions under pressure, but he can't seem to see the parallels in other countries in the same way.




If you have specifics please state them, otherwise nobody has a clue what your broad generalizations are attempting to conclude.  :shrug:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #24003621 - 01/12/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Tribalism is a very basic human instinct.  The "far-right" (as if there is a meek and modest right) plays to this, its like Colt 45...works every time.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Prem. Kissoff]
    #24003656 - 01/12/17 10:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Tribalism is a very basic human instinct.  The "far-right" (as if there is a meek and modest right) plays to this, its like Colt 45...works every time.




I agree about tribalism, with that being said why do many people attempt to force "cultural diversity" down everyone's throat? 

"The 'far-right' plays to this...works every time."

The conservative parties are finally acknowledging the massive miscalculations of the US/EU immigration policies that the majority of the general populations already knew to be true, I don't know how that is playing anyone.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #24003684 - 01/12/17 10:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4109136/Marine-Le-Pen-LEADS-poll-round-French-presidential-voting.html

Her more moderate opponent (Fillon) said- "he would urge the EU to tighten its asylum and immigration policy to counter threats from Islamic terrorists."

Looks like changes are coming to the EU this year.



Looks like they are finally getting what the liberals here have been asking for.  Not you bigoted policy of blocking ALL Muslims.  :shrug:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #24003704 - 01/12/17 10:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4109136/Marine-Le-Pen-LEADS-poll-round-French-presidential-voting.html

Her more moderate opponent (Fillon) said- "he would urge the EU to tighten its asylum and immigration policy to counter threats from Islamic terrorists."

Looks like changes are coming to the EU this year.



Looks like they are finally getting what the liberals here have been asking for.  Not you bigoted policy of blocking ALL Muslims.  :shrug:




The current second place politician is running a very conservative stance on immigration. Le Pen has even a more conservative stance on the issue.

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