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"An Afghan migrant accused of raping and killing a medical student in Germany had been convicted of attempted murder in Greece and had violated parole there, but German authorities were not aware of his criminal past when he entered the country"
Of course not, like most migrants they lie about their country of origin and criminal past. Liberals just take what they say as truth. 
Did you just make up the argument that "liberals just take what they (migrants) say as truth"? Or do you actually have evidence of this? Seriously, you aren't listening to what people are telling you. We're all in favor of tougher screening of immigrants so that only those that are truly refugees, and only those that don't have a criminal record are let through.
The EU hasn't done the best job of screening, but that doesn't mean liberals are happy about it. 
The point is when your homeland is flooded with millions of migrants from ALL over the world, a responsible screening process is IMPOSSIBLE.
Do you know what's better than some risky screening process? Sealing the border and turning the migrants in the other direction.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] 1
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qman said: Sleep if off. 
you're full of shit.
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hostileuniverse said: Are the progressive who don't have to deal with the consequences of these mass migrations still telling us how wonderful they are?
***not reading the thread
still just gibbering about how little you understand about what people are saying, without reading what they're saying. of course you are. no one should listen to you, unless they're willing to hopefully keep their mouth shut and keep their retarded shit to themselves.
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viktor said: Why spend all these resources on screening murderers who shouldn't be allowed into the country?
Much better to spend them on the homeless, mentally ill etc. already in our country.
Oh wait, that would be social democracy, and we can't have that. All that's allowed is SJW shit.
someone is getting their jimmies rustled and making leaps in logic. oh joy.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] 1
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qman said: New York bankers control the food, water, educational, housing and political destiny of African's. 
That's for the conspiracy forum.
Guess what spurred the explosion of population growth in the first place? Big gains in productivity, technology and food production in AFRICA!!!!
Maybe i should have said "relatively" small group of people. In any event, the banking overlords control the food, water, educational, housing, and political destiny of Americans and Europeans. Is it hard to believe that a group with those kinds of resources at their disposal could/would do the same for Africa? Why does it necessarily require a formal "conspiracy" rather than simply a high level of influence to pursue one's own best interests? Since you mentioned it though, where did the capital come from to produce these big gains in technology and food production etc.? Who picks up the tab for the loans if/when the nations involved default and their debt is "monetized"? Who makes the money off of the interest?
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You still don't get it, it's not about "our systems of distribution", it's their "systems of distribution" that does NOT "accommodate their needs".
What i don't get is how you can perpetuate this BS when you know damn well that the same small group of people is in financial control of "our" and "their" distribution systems.

New York bankers control the food, water, educational, housing and political destiny of African's. 
That's for the conspiracy forum.
Guess what spurred the explosion of population growth in the first place? Big gains in productivity, technology and food production in AFRICA!!!!
Well, Hillary Clinton did have Ghaddafi killed. By the way, Libya is a country in North Africa. There are conflicting opinions of Ghaddafi, the world over, but from what I understand, he was a beloved leader in Libya. He wanted Libya to be independent, and strong. He wanted their oil to be nationalized... or something..
If you think the West doesn't meddle in African affairs, you haven't been paying attention at all.
Africa has a staggering quantity of precious natural resources, which have been pillaged by the West; from their physical man-power, to their raw diamonds. They have reaped some small amount of technological benefit, that is incomparable to the devastation the western world has brought upon them.
We have meddled in their affairs so much, that all of the country boarders in Africa were drawn by the West. All of their major empires were crushed by the West, and all of their historical records were burnt to detach them from their roots.
If I didn't know any better (and I'm not so sure that I do), I'd say you were a complete and total fucking idiot who runs his mouth about shit he doesn't understand, almost every day!
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The Blind Ass said: For god sakes has this man never heard of the UN? Not to mention many more things...where to begin? Global Banking maybe? Even thats not right. I hate* the internet , I wish I could talk to you all in person and Im sure these stupid, petty misunderstandings would resolve in a matter of a few minutes.
The fact is were growing up and we live in experimental societies. Adaption to civilization is not evolution per say so we can just throw up our hands and say generations down the road will have a great place to live and they get to enjoy gods green earth. Im afraid it will take succesful terrorism, a few more grand wars, or some genius level mastermind who has a truly good heart and a whole host of people with enlightened minds in regards to what they put most their attention on in man's life and societal living.
America is not doing well. Its citizens are unhealthy, mentally ill, narcissistic, ignorant, addicted, traumatized, and it caters to a deeply flawed ideology. And this is coming from someone who has everything in the world he could wish for. For regular people they are seen as actual commodities to be traded bought and sold. They are either consumers or producers - the value of life without those two things alone can cause someone to become sick if they have been raised in this environment.
We cant keep separating mind from body - because its simply flawed. Same goes with individual and environment. I literally turn off the radio, the tv, the internet,anything that plays advertising and marketing to me like they own my senses and think Ill fall for their bull shit jedi mind tricks... ahh whata time to be alivee
Go to bed you drunk blind ass! (speaking to myself)
This was a great post. I think Qman is drunk with Arianism. Maybe he needs to sleep it off.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] 2
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Much better to spend them on the homeless, mentally ill etc. already in our country.
Oh wait, that would be social democracy, and we can't have that. All that's allowed is SJW shit.
I would see your point, and agree with you, had the Western world not gone to the middle east and stirred this shit up in the first place. You make a mess, man up and clean it up.
Regardless, I believe our modern societies could do both, so stow your ultimatums.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said: Regardless, I believe our modern societies could do both, so stow your ultimatums.
You can't spend the same dollar twice.
You've got homeless people and mentally ill people waiting for their share of their society. Now you've got Syrians looking to jump the queue.
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You can't spend the same dollar twice.
You've got homeless people and mentally ill people waiting for their share of their society. Now you've got Syrians looking to jump the queue.
So you spend different dollars once.
You could even spend that dollar paying a homeless person to partake in the screening process of the refugee, if you want to get creative.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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So we all have to pay more taxes just to pay for an invasion by Muslims that we don't even want here?
Get stuffed!
I don't think you have any idea of the magnitude of the backlash that is waiting for you fools!
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] 2
#23938482 - 12/18/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't speak for NZ, but in the U.S. we could pay for all sorts of things if we eliminated a fraction of our military waste. no tax increase required.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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viktor said: So we all have to pay more taxes just to pay for an invasion by Muslims that we don't even want here?
Get stuffed!
I don't think you have any idea of the magnitude of the backlash that is waiting for you fools!
oh man, now the paragon of reason is getting emotional.
are you gonna go on on the soapbox and suggest a lib-hunt?
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viktor said: Why spend all these resources on screening murderers who shouldn't be allowed into the country?
Much better to spend them on the homeless, mentally ill etc. already in our country.
Oh wait, that would be social democracy, and we can't have that. All that's allowed is SJW shit.
Most EU nations, especially the ones taking in refugees, are social democracies.
But yeah, the obsession with "social issues" by the left in America holds the nation back as a whole.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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You can't spend the same dollar twice.
You've got homeless people and mentally ill people waiting for their share of their society. Now you've got Syrians looking to jump the queue.
Woofs society can absorb all illegals and muslims, he loves them, and to prove it, he'll spend as much of your money on them as he can
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23939856 - 12/19/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/15/world/europe/germany-murder-maria-ladenburger.html?_r=0
"An Afghan migrant accused of raping and killing a medical student in Germany had been convicted of attempted murder in Greece and had violated parole there, but German authorities were not aware of his criminal past when he entered the country"
Of course not, like most migrants they lie about their country of origin and criminal past. Liberals just take what they say as truth. 
Did you just make up the argument that "liberals just take what they (migrants) say as truth"? Or do you actually have evidence of this? Seriously, you aren't listening to what people are telling you. We're all in favor of tougher screening of immigrants so that only those that are truly refugees, and only those that don't have a criminal record are let through.
The EU hasn't done the best job of screening, but that doesn't mean liberals are happy about it. 
I'm really getting tired of this childish bullshit.
This is now, what, the third strawman in a row? I suppose some folks around here find satisfaction winning fabricated arguments, if their ideas don't hold up in the realm of legitimate, substantive debate.
Maybe we shouldn't even bother pointing it out anymore. After all, it is not more than a shallow symptom of a deeper condition. The unwillingness to reflect honestly on ones own opinions, to the point of misrepresenting all information to the contrary.
"I'm really getting tired of this childish bullshit"
So you're upset that the NYT's is reporting the news in Germany and that many around here supported a free for all migration into the EU?
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: ballsalsa]
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qman said: New York bankers control the food, water, educational, housing and political destiny of African's. 
That's for the conspiracy forum.
Guess what spurred the explosion of population growth in the first place? Big gains in productivity, technology and food production in AFRICA!!!!
Maybe i should have said "relatively" small group of people. In any event, the banking overlords control the food, water, educational, housing, and political destiny of Americans and Europeans. Is it hard to believe that a group with those kinds of resources at their disposal could/would do the same for Africa? Why does it necessarily require a formal "conspiracy" rather than simply a high level of influence to pursue one's own best interests? Since you mentioned it though, where did the capital come from to produce these big gains in technology and food production etc.? Who picks up the tab for the loans if/when the nations involved default and their debt is "monetized"? Who makes the money off of the interest?
If someone has a great idea that can produce profits down the road, they use the capital MARKETS to raise money, ANYBODY is eligible to participate in that public investment.
Nobody is stopping African's from developing their own resources and nations other than themselves. Nobody is forcing them to have too many children that they can't support.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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You still don't get it, it's not about "our systems of distribution", it's their "systems of distribution" that does NOT "accommodate their needs".
What i don't get is how you can perpetuate this BS when you know damn well that the same small group of people is in financial control of "our" and "their" distribution systems.

New York bankers control the food, water, educational, housing and political destiny of African's. 
That's for the conspiracy forum.
Guess what spurred the explosion of population growth in the first place? Big gains in productivity, technology and food production in AFRICA!!!!
Well, Hillary Clinton did have Ghaddafi killed. By the way, Libya is a country in North Africa. There are conflicting opinions of Ghaddafi, the world over, but from what I understand, he was a beloved leader in Libya. He wanted Libya to be independent, and strong. He wanted their oil to be nationalized... or something..
If you think the West doesn't meddle in African affairs, you haven't been paying attention at all.
Africa has a staggering quantity of precious natural resources, which have been pillaged by the West; from their physical man-power, to their raw diamonds. They have reaped some small amount of technological benefit, that is incomparable to the devastation the western world has brought upon them.
We have meddled in their affairs so much, that all of the country boarders in Africa were drawn by the West. All of their major empires were crushed by the West, and all of their historical records were burnt to detach them from their roots.
If I didn't know any better (and I'm not so sure that I do), I'd say you were a complete and total fucking idiot who runs his mouth about shit he doesn't understand, almost every day!
"If you think the West doesn't meddle in African affairs"
I never made that assertion.
"precious natural resources, which have been pillaged by the west"
They (African's) made money off of their natural resources, they just keep the profits in the hands of the very few unlike of parts of the world, it's called being selfish.
"I'd say you were a complete and total fucking idiot"
That's a flame Mr.Potty Mouth.
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Bigbadwooof said: Regardless, I believe our modern societies could do both, so stow your ultimatums.
You can't spend the same dollar twice.
You've got homeless people and mentally ill people waiting for their share of their society. Now you've got Syrians looking to jump the queue.
So you spend different dollars once.
You could even spend that dollar paying a homeless person to partake in the screening process of the refugee, if you want to get creative.
Great idea.
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viktor said: Why spend all these resources on screening murderers who shouldn't be allowed into the country?
Much better to spend them on the homeless, mentally ill etc. already in our country.
Oh wait, that would be social democracy, and we can't have that. All that's allowed is SJW shit.
But yeah, the obsession with "social issues" by the left in America holds the nation back as a whole.
Thank you for stating some honesty despite the fact it goes against your own ideology.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4048268/Just-34-000-migrants-1-2million-arrive-Germany-two-years-work-government-reveals.html
"This means the bill of feeding, housing and caring for the migrants will continue to soar into the billions and fall upon the German taxpayer"
Sounds like a great deal for German's, watch your culture, security and homeland go to hell while paying for people that don't belong there in the first place.
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"This means the bill of feeding, housing and caring for the migrants will continue to soar into the billions and fall upon the German taxpayer"
Sounds like a great deal for German's, watch your culture, security and homeland go to hell while paying for people that don't belong there in the first place.
Didn't take long, the Muslims have started killing Germans today: http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/87754128/lorry-ploughs-into-german-christmas-market-in-berlin--reports
I have always said that, once the Muslims start trying to terrorise the Germans, their days in Europe are numbered.
The Germans will do to the Muslims what the did to the Jews.
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