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Does their behaviour have anything to do with their genetics?
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: circastes]
#22722428 - 12/31/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And here's another one, even from a trusted liberal site, nice try fal,
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6319654
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Chilling guidelines believed to be published by the Islamic State counsel militants on how to treat female slaves, according to the Middle East Media Research Institute. The document advises captors they can have sex immediately with virgins, and even pre-pubescent girls if "fit for intercourse," reads the institute's translation. Fighters can have sex with non-virgins, although the "uterus must be purified."
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22725327 - 01/01/16 06:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Muslims attacking liberals in England, yeah that cultural diversity is working out so well. 
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#22727864 - 01/02/16 12:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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straw man, do you think any of us are defending Daesh and their attitudes towards slavery?
all your link shows is that Daesh do this. This is not mainstream Islam or even mainstream Sunni islam.
Shall i post how an american soldier raped iraqis in prison and then generalise that to all americans and then all white people? then i can say ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RAPISTS....?
no because that would be stupid.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
#22727920 - 01/02/16 12:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman i will respond to your video when i can but my computer is fucked right now, i dont have audio.
i watched it without audio and im not sure how this is making a strong point about cultural diversity being the problem. perhaps i missed something in the audio so i'll get back to you on that eventually..
i do find it interesting how (correct me if i'm wrong) youve never stepped foot in the UK or Europe, or seen these areas, or seen these communities, but you seem to get a lot of your opinions about this from some terrible out of context videos without any experience to back it up.
do you know what "leftist group" those people were from?
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: burgerbrain] 1
#22727974 - 01/02/16 12:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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burgerbrain, what drivel is this...? where do you even find this stuff? no, don't answer that.
i notice that Kosovo and Macedonia are off the list. i visited both countries this year. Kosovo is 90% muslim and are deeply secular. Macedonia is about 30-40% muslim and is also a shining example of islamic moderation in Europe.
your crazy list seems to show muslim percentage as the only factor in all of this.
fucking drivel, mate. as usual.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
#22728031 - 01/02/16 01:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tipote said: qman i will respond to your video when i can but my computer is fucked right now, i dont have audio.
i watched it without audio and im not sure how this is making a strong point about cultural diversity being the problem. perhaps i missed something in the audio so i'll get back to you on that eventually..
i do find it interesting how (correct me if i'm wrong) youve never stepped foot in the UK or Europe, or seen these areas, or seen these communities, but you seem to get a lot of your opinions about this from some terrible out of context videos without any experience to back it up.
do you know what "leftist group" those people were from?
I have been to Europe over 15 times- France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Austria, Czech, and Sweden. Never been to the UK.
And no I don't know what "leftist group" that was out there, but the women sure said they were being attacked in the streets for no reason.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
#22728211 - 01/02/16 01:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And no I don't know what "leftist group" that was out there, but the women sure said they were being attacked in the streets for no reason.
sounds conclusive..
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I have been to Europe over 15 times- France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Austria, Czech, and Sweden. Never been to the UK.
btw "Czech" is like saying youve been to French.
well i apologise for my assumption then. I can probably bet that you havent really been in any of these places for very long. Passing through? Travelling? It's a little different when you live amongst these communities and understand really what locals think and how communities interact.
I thought it was a safe bet that you havent been to the UK at least.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
#22729519 - 01/02/16 07:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tipote said: burgerbrain, what drivel is this...? where do you even find this stuff? no, don't answer that.
i notice that Kosovo and Macedonia are off the list. i visited both countries this year. Kosovo is 90% muslim and are deeply secular. Macedonia is about 30-40% muslim and is also a shining example of islamic moderation in Europe.
your crazy list seems to show muslim percentage as the only factor in all of this.
fucking drivel, mate. as usual.
LOL so since Kosovo and Macedonia aren't on the list then that makes the information "drivel"? Hilarious. "Ooop that graph didn't include all 200+ countries, it must be wrong!" Stupid stupid shit
"drivel" is that shit that continually spews from your leftist mouth.
So since you think this information is "drivel" do you mind citing one sentence and telling me why it's wrong?
Poor lefties don't use their brains very much do they? Mod edit: user banned for this sentence.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
#22730151 - 01/02/16 10:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tipote said: Shall i post how an american soldier raped iraqis in prison and then generalise that to all americans and then all white people? then i can say ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RAPISTS....?
no because that would be stupid.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: burgerbrain] 1
#22730573 - 01/03/16 01:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ignoring the obvious over generalizations, hyperbole, and inaccuracies in your figure, correlation does not equal causation. It would be foolish to attempt to attribute complex social and political tendencies, not to mention total war, in countries around the world, to a single factor. Surprisingly, it turns out there's more to life than just race/religion.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22730714 - 01/03/16 02:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So Muslims think they're doing "the right thing" by attempting to spread their ideology everywhere? Or are they just scared of Allah?
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: circastes]
#22730969 - 01/03/16 06:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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you forget that whenever you say "muslims" you are generalising 1.6 billion people of all races and of most or a lot of countries in the world?
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So Muslims think they're doing "the right thing" by attempting to spread their ideology everywhere?
I've mingled with Muslims alot and although they politely say that they would be honoured if I converted, they do not push when you say no the first time. On the contrary, i've felt Christians seem to be much more obsessed with spreading their ideology everywhere? BUT again we can't just lump one group all together. Some Christians don't give a fuck.
Christians and Muslims do tend to look for converts, yes. There is a long history of both religions having large missionary campaigns. Judaism less so but many people still convert to Judaism.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: burgerbrain]
#22730973 - 01/03/16 06:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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#22731069 - 01/03/16 08:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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circastes said: So Muslims think they're doing "the right thing" by attempting to spread their ideology everywhere? Or are they just scared of Allah?
Both, as is the case with all religion.
It is your duty, as a theist, to proselytize for your creator and also fear him.
Some Muslims just take it way too seriously.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said: you forget that whenever you say "muslims" you are generalising 1.6 billion people of all races and of most or a lot of countries in the world?
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Or are they just scared of Allah?
what?
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So Muslims think they're doing "the right thing" by attempting to spread their ideology everywhere?
I've mingled with Muslims alot and although they politely say that they would be honoured if I converted, they do not push when you say no the first time. On the contrary, i've felt Christians seem to be much more obsessed with spreading their ideology everywhere? BUT again we can't just lump one group all together. Some Christians don't give a fuck.
Christians and Muslims do tend to look for converts, yes. There is a long history of both religions having large missionary campaigns. Judaism less so but many people still convert to Judaism.
Most Christians don't give a fuck and they are not even close to being devote, they are Christian in name only, Muslims can't say the same thing. Just another example of why the assimilating process isn't taking place in Europe.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
#22733293 - 01/03/16 07:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, most Muslims are peace loving and kind individuals... That's why Norway has begun teaching them that it's NOT OKAY to rape little girls and boys, but I'm sure that's not because of their culture, prolly because of Donald Trump or some such rubbish...
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/20/report-norway-is-offering-classes-to-teach-muslim-immigrants-not-to-rape/
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/europes-rape-epidemic-western-women-will-be-sacrificed-at-the-alter-of-mass-migration/
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22734353 - 01/04/16 01:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Muslims are fucking scum and hate us. Only lib'tard dhimmis suck their cocks.
Fuck Islam. Fuck the Left.
I 100% support the rise of the Right in Europe and Australia, and I hope Trump wins. Now lefties, if Shari'a law were to rule there's no way I'd do what I do. It's one thing doing jail if nicked, it's quite another getting one's fucking head chopped off for drugs!!
          
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#22734601 - 01/04/16 04:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Yeah, most Muslims are peace loving and kind individuals... That's why Norway has begun teaching them that it's NOT OKAY to rape little girls and boys, but I'm sure that's not because of their culture, prolly because of Donald Trump or some such rubbish...
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/20/report-norway-is-offering-classes-to-teach-muslim-immigrants-not-to-rape/
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/europes-rape-epidemic-western-women-will-be-sacrificed-at-the-alter-of-mass-migration/
I'm all for immigrants or natives to be taught whats right and wrong when it comes to treating women. Rape, in all cases, should be dealt with by a firm hand. I'm all for immigrants who do come from countries in which relations with women are bad, to be educated. Efforts at integration on both sides are vital.
But you are not really showing that this has got anything to do with Islam. You can perhaps make a case about various countries, yes, but generalising this to Islam is a bit of a jump.
First of all, Sweden has changed what it qualifies as rape. Since the redefinition some years ago, numbers have increased significantly. Rape statistics by its nature are somewhat inaccurate. Some don't ever come forward and some are increasingly coming forward when they see others coming forward.
When it comes to Norway.. this is what the Ministry of Justice and Policing said about those conclusions..
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Statistics regarding assault rapists:
The Oslo Police District has given a report of rapes in Oslo in 2010. The report shows that for all types of rape, except assault rape, European perpetrators are in the majority, and they are mostly Norwegian. Assault rapes covers only five identified unique person. These have all a foreign origin. The number is however, so low that it does not provide a basis for drawing conclusions with regard to country of origin. Two of them were very young (under 18) and two had severe psychiatric diagnoses and cannot be regarded as representative of their ethnic culture. It is highlighted in the report that generalizations like “Oslo’s rapists are foreigners”, which have been seen in media, are wrong. The report gives no statistics regarding religion of rapists.”
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Norway has a rape and other sexual crime problem..
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Sexual violence against women in Scandinavia shares characteristics seen in more unequal societies: It is all too common and rarely reported, and those who commit it are even more rarely convicted. Ancient prejudices about male prerogative and modern assumptions about female emancipation conspire to create a thick wall of silence, shame and legal ambiguity.
One in 10 Norwegian women over the age of 15 has been raped, according to the country’s largest shelter organization, the Secretariat of the Shelter Movement. But at least 80 percent of these cases are never brought to official attention and only 10 percent of those that are end in a conviction, the Justice Ministry says.
Nowhere is this taboo more stubborn than in the family home, long considered off-limits for law enforcement and the state.
“The statistics tell us that the safest place for women is outside, on the street — most rapes happen at home,” said Tove Smaadahl, general manager of the Shelter Movement. In a 2005 survey by the Norwegian Institute for Urban and Regional Research, 9 percent of female respondents in a relationship reported experiencing sexual assault.
“No, we don’t have equality between men and women,” Ms. Smaadahl said, “not until we have addressed the issue of relationship rape.” from here
According to the Oslo Policy Study...
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The majority of registered perpetrators in cases of reported rape in Oslo in 2010 have Norwegian citizenship, as has been the case in every previous rape study. In 2010 this went for 61.2% of the perpetrators, which is relatively stable compared to the material from 2007 (60.3%). A relatively high proportion, 12.5%, of the registered perpetrators are from other parts of Europe, and taken together almost three quarters of the perpetrators in 2010 have European citizenship. For the rest, 10.5% are from Africa, 9.2% from the Middle East, 4.6% from Asia and 2% from America.
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The proportion of perpetrators (unique persons) of Norwegian national background is the group whose representation increases the most, comprising 38.2% of perpetrators. Together this brings the proportion of perpetrators with a European continental background to a total of 51.9%.
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Crude generalizations that have given the impression that rapists are only foreigners – and primarily Muslims – are shown to be inadequate and erroneous. see here for more
Sexual crimes are not part of Islam. Can you show me how they are? Are religions used to commit sexual crimes? yeh sure, but can you show me who this applies here?
Is there a serious problem? of course there is. but on what grounds can you say this is specifically related to Islam? There is a rape epidemic in India, are we going to say its something about Hinduism? Are you going to start talking about FGM? Also nothing to do with Islam.
Its true that there was a rape gang in Rotherham, England which was largely of Pakistani origin but there were Europeans involved too. At best you can say that all countries have a serious rape problem. Pakistan certainly, India certainly. Do your best not to assume this can be generalised to such huge groups
Majority of Rotherham child exploitation suspects are white, claims new report
I would however agree that political correctness does hinder the willingness to talk about these issues and to tackle them properly. In the gap of people not talking about it openly, it is the ignorant who are dominate vocally with large generalisations and assumptions that distort the picture.
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