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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
    #25280856 - 06/20/18 11:46 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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But by all means, continue to endorse a policy that gets the rich even richer at the expense of the poor working class.




But by all means, divide the working classes by hating on workers according to their immigration status, that'll really show the elites.




Maybe the native citizens should decide on the levels of LEGAL immigration into their homelands, not the elite.




But only if those "natives" agree with you.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: circastes]
    #25280904 - 06/20/18 12:02 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

That proves it was a good policy right? I'm trying to think like a loony leftist

The migrants came to europe and enriched it, now they are calling a conference to bring in more and sending the military to make sure they are all safe

have I got the ll slant on it right?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Stonehenge]
    #25281051 - 06/20/18 01:22 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.rt.com/news/430263-migrants-aquarius-spain-students/

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201806201065582949-spain-students-migrant-dorms/

"Spanish students, who were told to leave their dormitories in 24 hours to make room for new arrivals...who are mostly from sub-Saharan Africa...The students, who reportedly pay as much as 750 euros per month...were told to vacate the rooms within 24 hours...The migrant children were likely to have 'many diseases' and posed a health risk"

:huxleyfacepalm:  Very nice, the native students who paid for dorm rooms are forced out by they own government to fill it up with African migrants full of diseases.

This is the same boat Italy refused, now Spain has the problem.

Edited by qman (06/20/18 01:23 PM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
    #25281121 - 06/20/18 01:51 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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https://www.rt.com/news/430263-migrants-aquarius-spain-students/

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201806201065582949-spain-students-migrant-dorms/

"Spanish students, who were told to leave their dormitories in 24 hours to make room for new arrivals...who are mostly from sub-Saharan Africa...The students, who reportedly pay as much as 750 euros per month...were told to vacate the rooms within 24 hours...The migrant children were likely to have 'many diseases' and posed a health risk"

:huxleyfacepalm:  Very nice, the native students who paid for dorm rooms are forced out by they own government to fill it up with African migrants full of diseases.

This is the same boat Italy refused, now Spain has the problem.



Haven't you heard that we can make room for migrants or lower our quality of life to help others in need?

Its gonna get old real quick

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: MagicMush123] * 3
    #25281546 - 06/20/18 05:41 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Or we could just make the rich pay their fair share.


How can anyone be such a bootlicker that they dont even consider shifting the increasing burden of the working class onto the unprecedented rich? Shits wild.

"Well OBVIOUSLY we can never increase tax revenue unless it comes out of my paycheck."

The ruling class is so proud of yall.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: circastes]
    #25281592 - 06/20/18 06:03 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, music, ecs, the krypto twins, and all the other ll's are paying out of their own pocket to house migrants.

Not. Its up to someone else to pay for it of course. Maybe spain will learn a lesson?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #25281607 - 06/20/18 06:08 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Or we could just make the rich pay their fair share.


How can anyone be such a bootlicker that they dont even consider shifting the increasing burden of the working class onto the unprecedented rich? Shits wild.

"Well OBVIOUSLY we can never increase tax revenue unless it comes out of my paycheck."

The ruling class is so proud of yall.




The EU gets a much higher tax revenue to GDP than the US, so there's not much more to get on that front. But guess what?  They still don't want millions of third world migrants invading their homelands!

The elite caused in the migrant crisis in the first place, you know the open door policy YOU support. Good job siding with the elite once again. :thumbdown:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25281610 - 06/20/18 06:09 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Or we could just make the rich pay their fair share.


How can anyone be such a bootlicker that they dont even consider shifting the increasing burden of the working class onto the unprecedented rich? Shits wild.

"Well OBVIOUSLY we can never increase tax revenue unless it comes out of my paycheck."

The ruling class is so proud of yall.



The rich cant fix the worlds problems .
Nearly 1/2 of the world's population — more than 3 billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day. More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day. 1 billion children worldwide are living in poverty. According to UNICEF, 22,000 children die each day due to poverty, can raising the riches taxes buy more food for half of the world's population? Or is taxing the rich your default line?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Stonehenge]
    #25281613 - 06/20/18 06:10 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Yes, music, ecs, the krypto twins, and all the other ll's are paying out of their own pocket to house migrants.

Not. Its up to someone else to pay for it of course. Maybe spain will learn a lesson?




They talk a great game behind the keyboards, but when it comes to taking money out of their own wallets?  No where to be found.

What about housing the migrants?  Nope, they won't do that either.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 2
    #25281616 - 06/20/18 06:12 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I've told all of you multiple times of the charities and orgs i donate to, and the time i spend volunteering and doing activism.


But hey, the facts never got in your way before.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25285548 - 06/22/18 04:30 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-22/trump-might-rescue-italy-migrant-crisis-order-divide-europe

Italian Interior Minister, Salvini-"We need a mass cleansing, Street by street, quarter by quarter in the EU"

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25285572 - 06/22/18 04:41 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Or we could just make the rich pay their fair share.


How can anyone be such a bootlicker that they dont even consider shifting the increasing burden of the working class onto the unprecedented rich? Shits wild.

"Well OBVIOUSLY we can never increase tax revenue unless it comes out of my paycheck."

The ruling class is so proud of yall.




Fine make the rich pay...who's gonna make them?..

Not you, and not ANYONE without any power either

That's an everybody problem, not just a right wing problem

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: stzacrack]
    #25285594 - 06/22/18 04:53 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Where does power come from? Resources.

So how do we decrease the power of the rich and increase the power of the people? We take their fuckin resources.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25285630 - 06/22/18 05:10 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Where does power come from? Resources.

So how do we decrease the power of the rich and increase the power of the people? We take their fuckin resources.




But we can't strong arm them

We have to play by the rules (even if others don't)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: stzacrack]
    #25285650 - 06/22/18 05:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

No we dont.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic] * 3
    #25285657 - 06/22/18 05:23 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Easy plan:

1. Tax inheritances at 99%
2. Kill the rich.
3. ????
4. Profit.



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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Enlil]
    #25285661 - 06/22/18 05:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

VAT tax could work as well. Or just cap wealth entirely.

100% tax on everything above x amount.



I like the Motorhead song better :smile:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25285673 - 06/22/18 05:31 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

How dare you?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Enlil]
    #25285682 - 06/22/18 05:34 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I guess I was born too late to appreciate Aerosmith :shrug:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25285687 - 06/22/18 05:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I won't ban you this time, but there are lines that shouldn't be crossed.


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