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 Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe  [Re: qman]
#24189992 - 03/24/17 07:54 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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And if this thread was on a different website, I would have the "five vote up's", that wouldn't either validate or invalidate what I'm posting.
Thats as good an excuse as any. 
Do the vast majority of the members on this site and forum have a slant towards "liberal" values? Yes it does, myself included.
You and I are the liberals here, mate.
The ones opposing us, who want to force the long-discredited policy of mass Muslim immigration onto an unwilling European populace to lower their wages and destroy national solidarity, are not at all liberal.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
#24190001 - 03/24/17 07:56 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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i don't know if the hammer and sickle "muh jobs" people are so liberal, though.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
#24190751 - 03/25/17 02:50 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] 4
#24190900 - 03/25/17 05:26 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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"I live in a terrorist free fucking paradise"
No you don't, having a large group of foreigners committing a massive amount of crimes and living in no go-zones is terrorizing for most people. They're also terrorizing the finances of your "paradise", just wait until that starts hitting your fellow countrymen.
Oh, how nice, you managed to fit "terrorized" in that sentence to create the illusion of a connection between your post and mine. There's no connection. Terrorism and street violence is not the same thing, with our without your deceitful rhetoric.
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I simply pointing out the facts that are occurring on the ground floor, deal with it. 
"i'm simply..."
Do you really believe that? Deceitful even towards yourself...
You are using specific incidents as rhetorical tools to fuel your hateful agenda. I don't condemn the facts, I condemn how you portray information, how you insinuate and deceive, and how you agitate and polarize the debate itself.
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"dishonest narrative"
So the terrorist attack in London didn't occur?
How interesting that you interpose a rhetorical question in the middle of all political rhetoric.
Pun intended?
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qman said:
"ignore all relevant response"
I usually respond to members posts directed at myself, if you have an example of me ignoring a "relevant response" please point it out and I will respond to it.
Yet when I explain my position over and over you continue to act like I have some other position. I.e. you have ignored what I have said, regardless if you have responded to it or not...
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"calling them out for what they are: deceitful rhetorical hate mongering"
So posting about a terrorist attack in London is "hate mongering" now? I'm sorry that you don't like the fact that these incidents make your delusional ideology look bad, but that doesn't mean it's "deceitful". 
Posting information is never hate mongering. And that claim has never been made. Now you pretend that claim has been made to earn rhetorical points. Yet again a major fuck up.
And yet again insinuations regarding my ideology. You pretend my ideology is something it isn't. This is perfectly in line with your hyperboles and generalizations towards Muslims. A false portrait to create a polarization which enables hatred. Aka hate mongering.
Thank you for proving my points.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
#24190951 - 03/25/17 06:16 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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A British born criminal...
How's that assimilation theory been working out?
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Surely Brexit will stop Muslims from being born in the UK, tho.
So deportation of the high risk Muslims would be better?
The man who attacked people in Westminster the otherday was born in Kent and coverted to Islam as an adult. His name was Adrian Russell Elms 52 years of age. Conversion to Islam doesnt equal radicalisation which probably occurred in prison which was 13 years ago.
Where would you propose deporting British nationals to?
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Dont' get discouraged Mal - you got (at least) five 'vote up's for your last post. As of now qman got zero for his.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Webster10] 1
#24191052 - 03/25/17 07:29 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Ayyy look whos unbanned
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Webster10]
#24191054 - 03/25/17 07:30 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Upvoted just for the irony
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Webster10] 1
#24191327 - 03/25/17 09:43 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Dont' get discouraged Mal - you got (at least) five 'vote up's for your last post. As of now qman got zero for his.
Mal's been making some very well argued posts.
There was a short time I thought you might make an interesting contributor, but you've proven me very wrong.
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Blind squirrel.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] 3
#24191358 - 03/25/17 09:56 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Upvoted just for the irony
This demonstrates the differences in what each side appreciates. We give upvotes for well reasoned arguments, you give them for "DURR, CIRCLE JERK!" and "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?".
That's the irony here. 
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Webster is just dicking around, he is perfectly capable of holding a conversation, unlike certain Qmen here.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Turtletotem] 3
#24191381 - 03/25/17 10:05 AM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
#24191668 - 03/25/17 12:04 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Malkuthian said:
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qman said:
"I live in a terrorist free fucking paradise"
No you don't, having a large group of foreigners committing a massive amount of crimes and living in no go-zones is terrorizing for most people. They're also terrorizing the finances of your "paradise", just wait until that starts hitting your fellow countrymen.
Oh, how nice, you managed to fit "terrorized" in that sentence to create the illusion of a connection between your post and mine. There's no connection. Terrorism and street violence is not the same thing, with our without your deceitful rhetoric.
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qman said:
I simply pointing out the facts that are occurring on the ground floor, deal with it.
"i'm simply..."
Do you really believe that? Deceitful even towards yourself...
You are using specific incidents as rhetorical tools to fuel your hateful agenda. I don't condemn the facts, I condemn how you portray information, how you insinuate and deceive, and how you agitate and polarize the debate itself.
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qman said:
"dishonest narrative"
So the terrorist attack in London didn't occur?
How interesting that you interpose a rhetorical question in the middle of all political rhetoric.
Pun intended?
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qman said:
"ignore all relevant response"
I usually respond to members posts directed at myself, if you have an example of me ignoring a "relevant response" please point it out and I will respond to it.
Yet when I explain my position over and over you continue to act like I have some other position. I.e. you have ignored what I have said, regardless if you have responded to it or not...
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qman said:
"calling them out for what they are: deceitful rhetorical hate mongering"
So posting about a terrorist attack in London is "hate mongering" now? I'm sorry that you don't like the fact that these incidents make your delusional ideology look bad, but that doesn't mean it's "deceitful".
Posting information is never hate mongering. And that claim has never been made. Now you pretend that claim has been made to earn rhetorical points. Yet again a major fuck up.
And yet again insinuations regarding my ideology. You pretend my ideology is something it isn't. This is perfectly in line with your hyperboles and generalizations towards Muslims. A false portrait to create a polarization which enables hatred. Aka hate mongering.
It's pretty sad when you have already given up on debating the real issues and now only focus on how I present my positions. 
"hate mongering"
I got news for you, just calling people that hold some of my concerns about immigration "hateful" isn't going to workout very well for you. Hillary called Trump supporters "deplorable", how did that turn out?
People that supported the Brexit were called "racist, xenophobic, and ignorant", how did that turn out?
People that support Marine Le Pen are also labeled as "racist and stupid", do you see the trend yet?
"I explained my position over and over"
Yeah, I know your position. It goes something like this- I want as many immigrants as possible until something bad happens, that's called living in a fantasy land.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
#24191679 - 03/25/17 12:10 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Tipote said:
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A British born criminal...
How's that assimilation theory been working out?
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The Ecstatic said:
Surely Brexit will stop Muslims from being born in the UK, tho.
So deportation of the high risk Muslims would be better?
The man who attacked people in Westminster the otherday was born in Kent and coverted to Islam as an adult. His name was Adrian Russell Elms 52 years of age. Conversion to Islam doesnt equal radicalisation which probably occurred in prison which was 13 years ago.
Where would you propose deporting British nationals to?
It's a good question, I wonder what country his mother is from.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/24/khalid-masood-everything-know-london-attacker/
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Dont' get discouraged Mal - you got (at least) five 'vote up's for your last post. As of now qman got zero for his.
Mal's been making some very well argued posts.
If you have specific examples please share them, I wouldn't call flaming me based on emotion a "well argued posts".
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Turtletotem]
#24191705 - 03/25/17 12:16 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Webster is just dicking around, he is perfectly capable of holding a conversation, unlike certain Qmen here.
Well, that last argument you made was that one Muslim makes you great takeout food for you when you get drunk, therefore there's no immigration issue in your homeland.
Are you still sticking with that line of reasoning? 
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] 1
#24191709 - 03/25/17 12:18 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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You just quoted the examples.
If you dont like your rhetoric being criticized, try debating like an adult. Youre probably the oldest one here and youre setting a bad example for young whippersnappers like webster.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24191725 - 03/25/17 12:25 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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I hate to agree with qman, but malk has been engaging in a lot of shitty childish tactics:
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So just Shut the fuck up
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Grow up.
I found three recent posts from him in this thread. Those quotes are from two of them. I'm not saying that he hasn't made some good points, but his rhetoric does need some work, IMO.
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24191739 - 03/25/17 12:29 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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You just quoted the examples.
If you dont like your rhetoric being criticized, try debating like an adult. Youre probably the oldest one here and youre setting a bad example for young whippersnappers like webster.
"You just quoted the examples"
Hmm, saying that someone is using "deceitful rhetoric, illusion, insinuate, agitate, polarize and hate mongering" without SPECIFIC EXAMPLES is NOT an example. You should know better than that nonsense.
"If you don't like your rhetoric being criticized"
I don't care if someone disagrees with what I post, but give me a SPECIFIC EXAMPLE instead of saying it's "hate mongering".
Can you see the difference, it's really not that difficult to understand.
Edited by qman (03/25/17 12:30 PM)
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