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InvisibleBadEnglish
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NASA loses contact with Spirit rover
    #2262582 - 01/22/04 01:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just read this on CNN.com.I hope contact is reestablished soon,but at least the second rover lands tomm.

PASADENA, California (CNN) -- NASA researchers said Thursday they were unable to make contact with the Mars rover "Spirit" and the source of the problem was unknown.

Spirit project manager Pete Theisinger told reporters there is a "very serious anomaly" in communicating with the robot and the last exchange of information scientists had with the craft was Wednesday morning. He said researchers remained hopeful that the problem could be resolved.

Scientists initially thought a storm in Australia was keeping them from sending signals to instruct the Spirit rover to drill into a Mars rock. But on Thursday, the problem appeared to be more serious than a passing storm.

The six-wheeled Spirit has sent dozens of highly-detailed pictures of the red planet's landscape since landing in Gusev crater on January 3 for a mission that was expected to last around 90 days. While many sleep-deprived scientists are poring through the data from Spirit, others are making final preparations for its rover twin, Opportunity, to land just past midnight Saturday. Opportunity is heading for the other side of the planet.

Each of the rovers is equipped with eight cameras designed to snap panoramas of the Martian surface with resolutions so sharp they retain crisp detail when blown up to the size of a movie screen, according to NASA.

Their microscopes, spectrometers and drills could unlock geologic secrets from billions of years ago, when scientists think the planet might have had conditions more suitable for life.

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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: BadEnglish]
    #2263144 - 01/22/04 05:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Man that sucks! :frown:
I hope they can regain contact with it. If not, at least they got some use out of it, unlike the Beagle II.


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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: Le_Canard]
    #2263218 - 01/22/04 06:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yes i mean even if it is dead,you could hardley call it a failure.They received countless pictures and have recorded minerals they never knew where oon mars and all kinds of things like never befor,andd they have a second chance coming tommorow,butwho knows it might still come to life again.


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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: BadEnglish]
    #2263223 - 01/22/04 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

bummer!


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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: simplemachine]
    #2266199 - 01/23/04 05:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2266243 - 01/23/04 05:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yay! :laugh:
Now it can proceed with the soil and rock sampling in more detail.


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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2266351 - 01/23/04 06:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

that is great news,especially since the ESA found water on the surface of mars,well ice anyway.heres that article:

11:15 AM EST
Europeans Find Evidence of Water on Mars
By MELISSA EDDY, AP

DARMSTADT, Germany (Jan. 23) -- Europe's Mars orbiter has found the most direct evidence yet of water in the form of ice on the Red Planet's surface, the European Space Agency said Friday


While scientists have long believed that the planet's polar caps contain frozen water, the findings were based on indirect methods such as analysis of temperature data or the detection of traces of hydrogen.

European scientists said their discovery was based on analysis of vapors of water molecules detected by the infrared camera aboard the Mars Express spacecraft that is circling the Red Planet's south pole.

''You look at the picture, look at the fingerprint and say this is water ice,'' said Allen Moorehouse, the project's manager of spacecraft operations. ''This is the first time it's been detected on the ground. This is the first direct confirmation.''

If Mars once had surface water, it had the potential to support life - although Moorehouse cautioned that it was too early to draw conclusions.

In 2001, NASA's Mars Odyssey spacecraft had determined that there is lots of ice mixed with the soil, as little as 18 inches from the surface.

However, ESA's science director David Southwood said those previous conclusions were based on indirect measurements, such as the detection of traces of hydrogen, and that the European finding was more concrete.

''Previous measurements have been indirect and this is the first time we have direct indications of molecules that are present in water,'' Southwood said. ''Of course, finding anything that has to do with water on Mars is a sort of holy grail. This is certainly better than anything we've had so far.''

However, the director of NASA's Mars exploration program disputed the Europeans' claim that their discovery was new.

''Our Odyssey spacecraft that has been orbiting Mars since 2001 did discover vast amounts of frozen water in the northern and southern latitudes. And we were surprised by the fact that there was so much, and so close to the surface,'' Orlando Figueroa, director of NASA's Mars exploration program, told CNN on Friday

''So it's not new news but we are happy to see that their satellite is also able to pick up where it exists,'' he said when asked about the Mars Express findings

Phil Christensen, an Arizona State University professor involved in NASA's Mars projects, said the findings bolstered known data that pointed to the presence of frozen water on Mars.

''That is a very nice confirmation of the other measurements that have been previously made,'' he told The Associated Press.

European Space Agency officials said their discovery confirmed something that scientists long suspected.

''It's been looked at for such a long time and it's been inferred there was water'' at the south pole, said agency scientist Jean-Pierre Bibring.

''This is the first time we can really see vapors of the molecules themselves,'' he said.

More than 40 years of Mars exploration have been searching for evidence of whether the planet ever had liquid water.

Mars Odyssey, as well as another U.S. spacecraft, Mars Global Surveyor, have been circling the planet searching for indications of water.

In October, a team of scientists reported Odyssey had detected on the surface of Mars copious amounts of a mineral that's easily weathered away in the presence of water. That suggested Mars has been a dry wasteland.

Weeks later, a second team reported evidence to the contrary after Global Surveyor beamed back images that show features apparently created by the meandering flow of rivers.

The Mars Express orbiter is part of Europe's first mission to Mars. Mars Express hit orbit Dec. 25 and began transmitting its first data from the planet this month, starting with high-resolution pictures of the surface that captured in detail a huge martian canyon. Its companion Beagle 2 lander, released toward the surface Dec. 19, hasn't been heard from since its own scheduled landing on Dec. 25.

NASA has also run into trouble with contacting its Spirit rover this week, but NASA engineers got a 10-minute signal Friday and planned further communications with it in an effort to diagnose and possibly patch up their ailing robotic patients on Mars.


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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: BadEnglish]
    #2268801 - 01/24/04 06:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Rover Spirit's status upgraded today from critical to serous.


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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: BadEnglish]
    #2270726 - 01/25/04 06:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

psssst...

:whisper:

they're lying to us...
NASA is a front.


ahem.


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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: Middleman]
    #2273695 - 01/26/04 05:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

so uhh would you like to give us a bit more information on that then, or remain as cryptic as possible?


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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: Strumpling]
    #2273895 - 01/26/04 07:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

> so uhh would you like to give us a bit more information on that then, or remain as cryptic as possible?

They aren't 100% sure what is wrong, but they feel pretty strongly that the problem is software and not hardware. This is good news, because it means that they can probably recover. (Makes me wonder if they are running windows... probably.)


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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: Strumpling]
    #2273900 - 01/26/04 07:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

FUCK GOVERNMENTS! Why dont we race as humanity and not separated because of interests!

And after my science teacher mentioning this rover thing, I asked him if its a government operation and if the data will be publically available and he said no this is some different sort of organization and yes data will be available... but I now see that the website is *.nasa.gov .


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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: Seuss]
    #2273909 - 01/26/04 07:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> (Makes me wonder if they are running windows... probably.)



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Re: NASA loses contact with Spirit rover [Re: Strumpling]
    #2273922 - 01/26/04 07:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

lol this should be for another thread,

but we sure do lose contact often don't we?
is this really the best that US can do in 2004?

no, the "powers that be" direct just enough funding,
to maintain ambitious yet impotent puppet space programs.

all the while funneling Trillions of dollars to black ops.
the US dollar is falling, and we are being sold out.

those in the gno have stated that Government technology
is now 100 years ahead of the Civilian World,
and they do have the motive and the means to conceal it.

i Desire to Know more too...

huge underground city and Hypertorus deep beneath Denver Airport?
giant ancient glass structures on the Moon?
Pyramids under a blue desert sky on Mars?

is the Truth really stranger than Fiction? how could it not be.
i also get the feeling much of our fiction is to prepare us for the Truth.

anyWay, lots o' info here:

http://www.disclosureproject.com/
http://www.enterprisemission.com/
http://www.anomalies.net/

...but this could All be part of the great *staged* invasion coming in 2007. caveat emptor :wink:



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