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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: yogabunny] * 1
    #22608777 - 12/03/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Nicole:

First off...I absolutely LOVE your signature...but, about the drinking, I know those feelings well. I did learn, for myself,over time that experimenting with drinking....like changing to beer or wine or not drinking before noon...they never work out good. I always wound up with that fuck-it attitude you mentioned. My whole vocabulary was pretty much..."fuck it and I'm sorry"...because the I'm sorry's always followed the fuck-its...lol.

I can't just drink one of anything and it took me a long time and a lot of heartache to loved ones and myself before I could get that through my thick head.....that...Once I take the first drink, all bets are off....I have no control. That's a tough one to swallow and alot of us fight it to the bitter end. It took 6 DWI's and lots of jail time to get that through my head though.
.....jail is not the bitter end though...death is...a fucked up , miserable, painful death.


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Thayendanegea] * 1
    #22608841 - 12/03/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks!

I forgot another rationalization which is that I am super high functioning, which oftentimes leads to me decided that I DESERVE those drinks.

Then there's the other part of me that is just sick sick sick of needing alcohol, waking up foggy and headachey, and not feeling completely authentic in my career because of alcohol problem.


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: yogabunny]
    #22609283 - 12/03/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah...I was too (high functioning) Started a business,traveled all over the place, kept halfway decent looks....all that stuff kept me out longer...That, plus the fact that my brothers and father were all hard drinkers....yeah, I deserved that drink...earned it....work hard, play hard...all that shit.

Lol...add cocaine to that and you have a ticking bomb.


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22609777 - 12/03/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I haven't done cocaine in almost two years, thankfully, but it was a regular part of my routine for a long time....:crazy:


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: yogabunny]
    #22609790 - 12/03/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I think my problem is that drinking hasn't significantly affected my quality of life to the point where I actually WANT to quit. I've never gotten a DUI and I generally don't make a fool of myself when I'm drunk. I just don't wanna have to learn the hard way. I'm pretty good at coming up with rationalizations to hit up the liquor store though. I like the "oh i'm in college its what i'm supposed to do" the best though


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22611288 - 12/03/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It's especially hard when it seems like everything people do revolves around drinking. Most stop at the weekend but I usually just keep drinking everyday until the weekend rolls around again I start the cycle all over again :frown::thumbdown: I'm not going to let today stop me from my goal though. I made it 5 days I'm going for double or triple that


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22611323 - 12/04/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

finishing up day 2 of no drinking :rainbowcloud:


going to try and not drink tomorrow but i doubt that i will stay strong, i have an 8 hour bar tending shift that generally needs a drink or 4... will see feeling pretty good about it.


there is a good thread in the vets lounge about what happens if you drink too much too long. trying to avoid that.


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22611328 - 12/04/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Could you link it?


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22612034 - 12/04/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Just don't drink today...don't be afraid to ask God for help...any conception you may have. It works. Don't worry about yesterday or tomorrow...all we got is today. An old timer told me..."If you got one foot in yesterday and the other in tomorrow, then you're shitting on today."


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22613147 - 12/04/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
Could you link it?



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22613138/vc/1#22613138

you truly only have to worry about today, it is all we can do.

going for day 3 today. i have a nice bong load for after work that will be nice, i have not been smoking much lately either.


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22614061 - 12/04/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think anyone but you & I can view that thread. You have to have over 2,222 (or something like that) days registered to view the Vet forum.


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: yogabunny]
    #22614151 - 12/04/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

mod edit: trolling/flaming WILL NOT be tolerated in this thread or in this forum.



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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: jahrastafareye]
    #22619117 - 12/05/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Shane Alcoholic..

I just had sex with a girl i'm falling deeply in love with..

Thanks for letting me share.


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22621520 - 12/06/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Joel,  alcoholic.

The Doctor's Opinion is an important source of information.

I just came from a Big Book study at my local clubhouse.

I can almost remember all the times I read that chapter.  It is so simply put the doctors' point of view on alcoholism.

I have been in front of a doctor explaining to me that I would die if I continued drinking, never did it fully sink in.  It sunk in once my mind cleared from 3-6 months when I was incarcerated for battery.

The Doctor's Opinion

"On the other hand--and strange at it may seem to those who do not understand--once a psychic change has occurred, the very same person who seemed doomed, who had so many problems he despaired of ever solving them, suddenly finds himself easily able to control his desire for alcohol, the only effort necessary being that required to follow a few simple rules."


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Roostertail]
    #22629559 - 12/08/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Good to hear you Joel....The Dr.s opinion is a very important preface to the Big Book. Dr. Silkworth was way ahead of his time and was the first to treat alcoholism as an "allergy". Also one of my favorite parts of the book.

On another note...two guys under thirty that are friends that never got the program died in the last month. One had pancreatitis three times and kept drinking...fell over dead in front of his mom after coming home from a bar. The other was found dead from a H overdose by his wife....left behind 3 small children and a wife.
I just dropped my business partner of thirty years off at a hospital because his liver is shutting down after repeatedly cheating death from alcoholism...round the clock maintenance drinker that survived encephylepathy a couple years ago ...took a 3 month stint in the hospital and dr. called him his miracle patient...he kept drinking when released.

All I could think when I got back to work was...."But for the grace of God, there go I".


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22629806 - 12/08/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Joel,  alcoholic.

What is everyone thoughts of the use of cannabis while in Alcoholics Anonymous?


I haven't medicated for over two years.  Currently I'm under the care of doctor(s) one prescribing me psych meds.


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Roostertail]
    #22629921 - 12/08/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not a fan of using anything on a daily basis...(other than prescribed meds for legitimate disorders.)The big book mentions to beware of vicarious pleasures. I know there are some who smoke weed on a daily basis and I've heard of it referred to as "the marijuana maintenance program". Keep in mind, I've been around a few 24 hrs....and been involved in AA all of this time...March will be 17 yrs....anyway, I've seen alot of alcoholics say that they started drinking again after a period of using marijuana....Just my observation. Not telling anybody what they should or shouldn't do...just what I've seen.
The program is about living life on life's terms.That said, I do dose LSD and psilocybin a couple times a year for spiritual reasons mostly...and there are a shit ton of AA's that aren't on board with that.:sunny::peace:


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Roostertail]
    #22630868 - 12/08/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Joel,  alcoholic.

I'm a member of the Intituitions Committee in my county and I bring meetings into the Salvation Army. It's a great way for me to carry the message to the sick and suffering.  I do this commitment with my friend Marty.  On Wednesdays I work behind the counter at the club house where they serve food and coffee.

All the faces I see and the people I meet make a huge difference in my life.  I'm very thankful for these experiences.


On the cannabis piece...  I'm going to speak to my doc next time I see him.


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Roostertail]
    #22630954 - 12/08/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

That's good stuff Joel...Most people miss that "service" part of the program and wonder why they went back out. I have been taking meetings to a treatment center for over 15 years and was institution rep for my home group for 8 years....nothing like going into a jail to speak where you had been previously incarcerated.


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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Roostertail]
    #22630967 - 12/08/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Nicole, alcoholic.

I only had one glass of wine yesterday, zero today, huzzah!

I committed to this daily streaming guided meditation at 7am M-F to try and help curb my evening drinking, we'll see how that goes. Tomorrow is Day 2 of that.

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