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cronicr



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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21468773 - 03/28/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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great stuff!
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: cronicr]
#21469281 - 03/28/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yah man. Looks good.
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wowimflabbergasted
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: MudaFuka]
#21469464 - 03/28/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Very nice
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Mushroom_J
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
#21470651 - 03/28/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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container 5:

Container 6: This was actually the first to fruit, but side pins only. Didn't take pics. Think it was about 36 wet g's at harvest.

This is flush 2 minus 2 big side pins i picked. One out of 6 that performed poorly.
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Mushroom_J
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21477215 - 03/30/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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4 containers... wet weight: 165.2 dry weight 
container 5:
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21512416 - 04/06/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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cronicr



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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21512506 - 04/06/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: cronicr]
#21512566 - 04/06/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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I used a throw away plate on these to learn the tek. With a good culture I think these can really put out. I'll be revisiting after I do the culturing tek which I have 7 cups going. 5 rice pucks and 2 kentucky blue grass pucks lol. They're about 50% right now.
To many projects going lol.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21580233 - 04/22/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi V, Can I make grainwater if ive used gypsum and coffee in the soak. Im finding grainwater the best ive used for growing cultures.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Edmunter]
#21580722 - 04/22/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Coffee and gypsum in the water is fine
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21585842 - 04/23/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Indeed! Personally I don't use them, but for a while at first I did and had no trouble at all. Since I've not seen anything really noteworthy come of using them, I prefer it simple and tidy, but that's me.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#21585870 - 04/23/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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is pickling lime okay too?
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: blackdust]
#21586004 - 04/23/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't suppose it would hurt as long as you're accurately using it for pH balance. I've only ever put it in casing layers back when I used peat (*shudder*)
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#21625246 - 05/02/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm doing the V tek with birdseed. Some people have said WBS is not a great fruiter and should only be used to spawn. Can anyone speak on this? Has anyone done a side by side v tek test with birdseed versus rgs? birdseed should produce more fruits since it is more dense nutritionally right? But does it?
Also, is it the lightness of RGS that makes it the ideal cubensis substrate? Fully colonized RGS looks very spongy like a pf cake, while fully colonized birdseed looks really dense like the mycelium haven't digested it fully.. just my observations. I'd love to hear other opinions..
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Jerome09]
#22177464 - 09/02/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow, I've really missed some posts for a long time! Sorry! I half suspect you have your answers for now, but at least for the thread's sake, I'll answer since nobody else has.
I think millet and milo (the main grains in most birdseed) are great grains, especially millet. Someone who's an advocate of these teks has been saying that it has issues with hydration, and that it needs "more precise watering" I think it was, but I don't agree. I think any grain used for this tek may perform differently but is used by the grower just the same.
However, relevant to your other question, there is one major difference in use. Millet, like brown rice, benefits (to the point of necessity) from having an extended period of consolidation "chew time" before made to fruit from a casing layer. It may not need quite as much as brown rice since it's not quite as dense and is a bit smaller, but it still definitely needs it.
You're pretty close, about grass seed's advantage. The lightness, smallness, and thinness of grass seed is the majority of its advantage for growing, particularly in this way. It is consumed much more quickly and easily and is ready for full flushes much more quickly. The spread of grass seed's mass does mean a container has less nutrition weight total to produce yield from, but being spread over more containers can allow your pound of grain to yield more total, just like we know that 2 bulk substrates that are 2 inches deep are likely to yield more than one 4-inch deep substrate.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#22381542 - 10/15/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Still sifting my way though all of this great information on the V-tek !
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I don't like peat and don't recommend it. In the tek I show using sifted potting soil. The lower the proportion of peat, the better. We use the fine bits that make it thru the sifter, or that stick to themselves in the bottom of a bowl that's tossed around.
But isn't the fine material in most potting soils peat moss?
The other major components of most potting soils are fine bark and composted forest materials. Of course sometimes with a bit of perlite and on rare occasion, vermiculite.
You don't like the 50/50+ casing formula? I always thought that was the gold standard around here...
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Violet said: I always put into fruiting somewhere around 80/95/100% colonized.
Unsure if this is optimum, but I really like the Tasmanian strain, and the mycelium grows so fast that I "case and place" (a method I learned here many years ago). . . after 10 days of my RGS spawn run (when using coir or compost) I put my trays into the FC, and I see mycellium on the surface in about 3 days and pins on about day 6 . . . Just my 2 cents . . . Again, maybe not optimal but the strategy seems to work well for my situation. If I recall, the members who advocated this "case and place" methodology claimed it worked well for particularly aggressive types, which is why I tried it, to avoid an overly dense casing run, which is what I think is called "overlay". I used to scratch my casings when I got overlay, and that helped a lot and promoted pin-set, but with "case and place" my casing remains functional, and can still absorb water.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#22535507 - 11/16/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gonna do an ms grow with these to search for some clones.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22601556 - 12/01/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Casing layer got obliterated, given the fact I need some of it uncolonized to deal with my dry climate, I patched which brought the level up pretty high. Nonetheless some pins popping up and I am seeing a few that look to have potential for cloning.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22610795 - 12/03/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So the flush is uneven which is to be expected with ms. Going to clone one of the clusters that looks promising.
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cronicr



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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22610968 - 12/03/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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