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Tip jars upside down or not
    #2260813 - 01/21/04 08:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have 12 jars that have coffee filters over the wholes where the syringes were injected, should I tip the jar upside down or leave it up like it has been doing....also its been 8 days and no sign of white mycelium....


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Concomitant]
    #2260875 - 01/21/04 09:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just leave it. Unless your myc. stalls during incubation, then you would want to flip the jars over, open the hole to allow some air exchange. 8 days isn't a long time, if conditions are not perfect, it will probably take longer.


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Concomitant]
    #2260888 - 01/21/04 09:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

They're in my house which is set at 72 and I have blankets over them...I just now took 2 jars out and sprayed the air with bleach n water and put 2 on a heating pad at medium heat...The 2 jars are inside a shirt and the shirt is on the heating pad not the jars directly....good or bad idea...IM A NEWB HEH

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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Concomitant]
    #2260922 - 01/21/04 09:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

try that with a thermometer 1st so you know you are not gonna bake your jars! incubation temp in 86F on tha dot! less is better than more.





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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Concomitant]
    #2260935 - 01/21/04 09:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yah, blankets wont make a difference. Blankets only work on humans b/c we create heat so the fabric insulates that heat, therefore warming up the blanket. Jars don't create heat.


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Zwieback0]
    #2260976 - 01/21/04 09:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Jars totally create heat. The blanket is good, because what heat they do create will stay, much like a human.


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Concomitant]
    #2260994 - 01/21/04 09:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Im cheap and poor,so all i did for my incubator was get a box that is big enough to hold all my jars with about an inch of clearnce around the edges.I took a piece of styrofoam about 2 inches thick that i got out of a old broken styrofoam cooler and i poked holesabout an inch in diameter all over the styrofoam.I put it in the bottom and put the jars on top,then  i cut another piece of foam without holes and place it on top.Then just poke a meat thermometer through the top and close the lid,(i then cover with a towl but you dont have to).I placed the hole thing on a heating pad set on meduim and thats it.The strofoam that comes in contact with the bottom of the jars doesnt heat up at all because its so thick,but the heat comes through the holes and the top foam hold it in.Withe the heatpad on meduim,the thermometer reads 83 degrees all the time.Dont get me wrong im a newbie and its only been being used for about 13 days now,but so far so good.  :grin:


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: CultyVader]
    #2261026 - 01/21/04 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Where is the heat coming from culty? Unless you are using a heat blanket or something, jars DONT create heat, there is no way.


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Zwieback0]
    #2261029 - 01/21/04 10:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, they totally metabolize whatever they are growing on. By metablozing substrate they are producing heat.

PS. It makes perfect sense to me. BUT, if it didnt, Anno believes this to be true and i believe a lot of the same things he does.


Edited by CultyVader (01/21/04 10:10 PM)


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: CultyVader]
    #2261036 - 01/21/04 10:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe, but still not enough to cause any change in the temperature, so therefore useless.


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Zwieback0]
    #2261051 - 01/21/04 10:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)


Incubator



The inoculated jars develop fastest if they are stored at a temperature of 27?C (80?F)

(According to Stamets the best incubation temperature for P. cubensis would be 86?F, but since the jars themselves are a few degrees warmer than the surroundings (mycelium emits heat when growing) 80?F is a good and safe incubator temperature)



http://www.fungifun.org/pf/incubator.htm


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: CultyVader]
    #2261069 - 01/21/04 10:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Of course the incubator provides heat. The blanket they use in the provided link is to STOP heat from escaping the bin, a kind of insulation, it doesn't create heat. If blankets were so affective, there would be no need for fish tank heaters and etc. What I am trying to say is that the heat myc produces is NOT ENOUGH to cause any kind of dramatic change in temperature. Therefore, unless you are using a blanket to cover up a bin, wrapping layers and layers of blankets around a jar will not make a difference.


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Zwieback0]
    #2261072 - 01/21/04 10:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think a few degrees is a big difference


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: CultyVader]
    #2261085 - 01/21/04 10:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Haha.

I don't think 60 to a 61 or 62 is going to make a large difference.

Anyways, just my .02! Good luck.


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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Zwieback0]
    #2261296 - 01/21/04 11:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Both of you on the graph can see how much a couple degrees can change, you're arguing over nothing. 

Jars create around 2-3 degrees of heat... agreed

An incubator is the way to go... agreed

:lol:  through the whole post I see nothing to even cause a difference in opinion

You crazy hooligans

Take it easy and Concomitant get yourself an incubator biotch! Its worth it

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Re: Tip jars upside down or not [Re: Concomitant]
    #2262511 - 01/22/04 12:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)


8 days you need to stop checking em and leave them alone for at least another week. To much checking is only slowing things down.

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