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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: the_r3dz]
    #22786045 - 01/16/16 11:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Lasagna pans are now fruiting in a sunny window with shotgunnned plastic lids. Used a drill with a 1/8" bit and did 2" spacing. Misted the crap out of them before I added the lid. (How often should I mist these?)

As for Azur's thing, lemme make sure I got this right: basically to switch my monotub to Azur's thing, I'd want to take my tub to a well lit location, add a casing layer, and stuff the holes with polyfill?

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: sirion]
    #22786286 - 01/16/16 01:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Mist the lasagn pans as needed.  I'm guessing it's mid 60's where you are with 50+%rH.  Once a day will probably do it, maybe two very light mistings.  If you come back and see the majority of the water droplets on the surface have evaporated, mist again.  If you see the casing layer change colours, that means it's drying, though occassional that may happen to some protrudin coir fibers without issue.



See the fine water droplets all over this?  You can have a larger droplets than that, but you wouldn't want to go too crazy.  Start with a gentle misting and see how fast it evporates.  If it evaps too fast, mist more.  Those primordia were too wet early on in development, which caused all those weird deformities.

I can't believe you got a drill to go through that flimsy ass plastic.

Correct on the azur thing.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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No, this does not look right...

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22786408 - 01/16/16 01:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

In terms of the level of polyfill stuffing for Azur, he says "Medium stuffing" - is that more than Frank is doing here:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777 ?

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22786414 - 01/16/16 01:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Machiavelliavore said:
I can't believe you got a drill to go through that flimsy ass plastic.





Dremel tool, man. It can do *anything*...

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: sirion]
    #22786507 - 01/16/16 02:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, and should I still be adding 2 quarts of a casing layer to my monotub today if I already added unmixed substrate on top when I first spawned it? I'd say 20-30% of the surface is colonized at the moment.

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: sirion]
    #22786645 - 01/16/16 02:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I would add about 1.5qt to a mono with a top layer for the azur method, but that's just a guess.

Azur's medium stuffing in all holes is designed for a fan in the room if I'm not mistaken.  Frank's extremely loose top tight bottom is does not require it as much.  At least that's my impression.  If your humidity is very high you can really crank the FAE via the top holes.  My top holes have been empty for over a month here, 58-62F 50%+rH.  I wouldn't set the FAE that high until you see mycellium poking through the top, probably just wasting the moisture of the casing for no benefit.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

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No, this does not look right...

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22805286 - 01/20/16 09:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Lasagna pans have been in fruiting conditions for 4 days now. Currently super knotty. Misting them heavily once each morning seems to keep them sparkly for 24 hours or so. They're showing some yellowing or light browning in certain areas - not sure if that's mycelium piss or what, but every time I mist them they smell like fresh mushrooms again so hopefully they're happy.

As for the monotub, it's been in fruiting conditions as per Azur for 4 days as well (and was spawned 5-6 days ago). Mycelium is starting to peek through the casing layer, maybe 5-10% of it today.

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: sirion]
    #22806981 - 01/21/16 12:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If you're getting knotts, sounds like you're doing it right.  Hard to say what the brown stuff will be without pics.  Just make sure you aren't keeping it too wet, you want to see like 50%+ reduction in water on the surface with these trays each time you come back to mist again.  If not, mist it less, and evaluate again.

Glad it sounds like you're finally gonna get some mushies man.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22812564 - 01/22/16 08:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I got pins!!!

And I got mushrooms growing on my old agar plates!


My Lasagna Pans, yesterday morning:


My Monotub, yesterday morning:


Pans right now (pins in the last few pics!):


My agar plates with mushrooms growing in them!



Questions: Now that I have some pins, how soon can I expect to harvest? I'm leaving for a trip on Monday..any chance I can harvest by then, or will I need a friend to do it?

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: sirion]
    #22814094 - 01/23/16 08:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That Lasagna pan is gonna take off soon, look at all those tiny pins! :rockon:
Make sure to re-mist the surface after it dries out a bit, you don't want them to stall out.
You fruiting them in a SGFC or a greenhouse type setup?

Have your friend harvest them, I doubt they'll all be fully mature by Monday.
Usually takes another 3-4 days from the first sight of pins.

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22814337 - 01/23/16 09:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Once they're harvested, how do they need to be cared for to bring them to a second flush, and what's the timeline on that?

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: sirion]
    #22814342 - 01/23/16 09:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

And to answer your question: they just have 3" tall plastic kids with holes every 2" in them

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: sirion]
    #22814827 - 01/23/16 12:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Once they're harvested, how do they need to be cared for to bring them to a second flush, and what's the timeline on that?



You can heavily mist the surface or use the tribal dunk tek.
The next flush will come in within a few days to a week.
It really depends on the strength of the culture you're using and the fruiting conditions provided.

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: Psilosoulful] * 1
    #22816212 - 01/23/16 06:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Today's pin porn!


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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: sirion]
    #22816394 - 01/23/16 06:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: sirion]
    #22816511 - 01/23/16 07:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: Tipote]
    #22824439 - 01/25/16 07:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Excellent.  Look like they're just a smidge on the dry side.  You might want to pour a cup of water under the liner to try and boost that excellent pinset with some more water content once they start expanding hardcore.

You can dunk or not.  My best results have come from dunking, but I have also waterlogged some monos causing them to contam.  Given the dry-ish surface, I'd go ahead and dunk.  Dunking these trays is super easy.  Two hours should be plenty, leave the sub sideways leaning against something to dry, then just plop it back in the pan into the liner (which mostly will prevent the mycellium from eating the pan, not prevent side pinning at this pt.)

You need an avatar man...  Those pinsets weren't produced anonscrub.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...

Edited by Machiavelliavore (01/25/16 07:43 PM)

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22825744 - 01/26/16 03:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Would you add that cup of water (a full cup?) immediately or wait? (And if wait, till when?)

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: sirion]
    #22825812 - 01/26/16 04:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It's just one of those things, where once you've seen the point where the growth explosion happen you'll know when to try some bottomwatering.  You should see lots of growth and the caps starting to differentiate from the stem.  Half a cup should probably be fine.  Better safe than sorry.
It should easily suck up that half cup and you'll shouldn't need to check to make sure it's being absorbed at all.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...

Edited by Machiavelliavore (01/26/16 04:46 AM)

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Re: First Monotub Grow Log! (Pasty Agar, Frank WBS, SpitballJedi Monotub) [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22826251 - 01/26/16 10:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Its haaaappennnninnnggg!!



(Is this the rapid growth stage you're talking about where I should dump some water in there?)

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