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4acodmt total loss of self and the world
    #22593674 - 11/30/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

This post is about a 4acodmt trip I had. Previously i had tried it 4-5 times, with somewhat varying results. I have been taking 0.10 or 0.20 grams orally mixing it Into water. It seems the more water I used (up to an oz) and the effects would diminish. This time I was prepared.
I have extreme experience with psychedelics. I usually coupled this with LSD and I am grateful that I did not even though I had 1mg LSD at my disposal (I'd probably still be tripping if I ate all that!)

10:07 I get my psychedelic cup (1oz ornate shot glass for my psycs) I put the 4aco in and barely covered with water. Waited half an hour. Asked the cup to bless me and give me a profound trip. I had music set, my bed set up as a partial sensory deprivation chamber. I had been planning it out for weeks. Side note here I usually tripnon Monday, usually 200mics LSD sometimes as much as 500  mics
I had not tripped in a month so I figured why the hell not I have the set and setting let's do this!

Set: clear mind, had chakra energy at the back of my mind had watched a couple videos on the idea in the previous days.
Setting my own house with no one to disturbe me
Perfect. At night too.

10:30 rolled a bho containing joint. At 10:37 exactly half hour of putting the powder to water and stirring a few times I drank it. Went outside and smoked. Came back inside. Tried to lay down and focus on just my trippy music and depriving my thoughts and senses from fully forming. Approximately 11:10 ( 30min) i was aware that I was not high from the weed at all. I went into my bathroom to kinda steady myself and suddenly out of nowhere got a real rush feeling.
I started to hear voices. Like crowded stadium numberer of voices but all clear. I began to have weird visuals like I was actually looking at several layers of visuals all overlapping. These ranged from landscapes to fractals but all overlapping. It seemed as if each visual went to a different voice I was hearing and I became aware that the voices weren't all coming from my head. Rather I got the profound thought that it was each of my cells coming alive as if at that moment they all remembered the cycle of death and rebirth and were each a unique facet of a life that I had been through in the past.
These voices weren't mine. I am a male, 30 years old.
I heard old men and women.
Young men and women. Children. It seemed as if they spoke varied languages but that I knew what they were saying. At this point the visuals are so intense I have a feeling I can walk through walls.
I try it.
Fail miserably.
Forget what a wall is at that point and sit down.
Suddenly it just became too intense.

I'm scared

I said outloud. But when I SAID it it didn't make sense. Have you experienced ego death? If you have you understand the feeling and thoughts. Who is scared? A voice taunted me
(Me! This guy is scared!)
Well, who is "this guy?" The voice taunted
Me. I'm scared I took too much I think I'm stuck

What is stuck? What took too much? It kept taunting me. Asking me to fully explain
I
Me
Mike
This guy in the mirror
It eventually ended up with me saying outloud
"He is not familiar we don't know what he is"

And when I said it, part of me recognized it sounded odd. I sat on my bed and rocked back and forth the visuals and voices getting louder and louder my mind races to my parents, but they aren't my parents anymore just a mental image of two familiarly unfamiliar faces. I kept getting a visual of them waking in the morning and finding me, except that I wasn't able to say my name or even what I had taken. I remember clearly thinking that they would find a strange man in their house who looked like their son but he wouldn't be able to talk coherently. I got up and started pacing trying to hold onto
I
Mike
Am feeling fucked up.
(Who is mike?)

I I I I I !
(What does that word mean?)

Help me help me help me!
(Me hahaha! What is that?)
I felt like I was being messed with. So I thought what can I do what can we do?
Then a female voice came out and said
We need to rest. We will show what we mean. Lie down relax. Relax. Relax. Lie down. We will show you your death.

This is one voice still on top of thousands others but I thought lie down. So I flopped hard on my bed. At this point the light was on for some reason. As I lay I was aware my breathing was ragged like I had run miles. Suddenly the color started to drain and I thought shit I'm dead they're gonna wake up and I'm dead.
(They are too) the voice said
What the heck??I thought as the room faded to black
Suddenly I got a feeling that I had been here before and so has everyone even my parents.
And there was no color anywhere. Suddenly I saw a trickle of red and with the red came motion I literally feel at about 12:15 I screamed "myself" into existing. It was as if 12:14 everything was a void and black. Its hard to explain because black didn't exist either
It was just an everything is gone feeling. At 12:14 I was not. At 12:15 I was. I felt like in had gone through the big bang and was watching the universe form. I became aware that I had many consciousnesses and one consciousness I felt at 12:14 that I was a circle inside a square inside a diamond inside a triangle inside a smear of red waving warm light and everywhere I looked the red bled, like it was life and flowing. I could. See everything everything everything and from that red came orange and orange turned into yellow which eventually made its way to the crown chakra, but it was like this red covered all red was all red only was and had no beginning or end and slowly red and orange covered all and red and orange were all and red and orange were always and had no beginning or end and then red orange and yellow were all and so forth. Each time more color was brought to my sight. Suddenly I was I but I was also not I was a circle inside a square inside a diamond, I felt like the space between these shapes and I saw angles and lights and these angles and lights were so perfect that there was no nothing else just everything was made up of a circle inside a square inside a diamond and triangle. But I was not here I had shape and breath, I could process thought and I could say I myself me, this I AM. I I I. I was Michael again but had no movement I saw color but was not alive. And I felt motion I became aware that I. Was. Dead. I was standing and lying down. I could walk around but have no body. I was but had no purpose. I was stuck forever!! I knew I was dead, I became aware that if I did nothing nothing would be the result, but if I did something nothing but good would happened. I became aware of a song, it seemed like the voices were chanting or singing gently to me
I wish I remembered the words because this song took me to the triangle and then took a diamond out of it and then a square and finally a circle out if the square and these were the most perfect. The square fits just inside of the circle to where there is room for the rest of the shapes And it was. It became. And it was MOST PERFECT at that point. Every square had a circle and every circle a diamond and the diamond a triangle and the triangle had form. The quality of these shapes together in everything had a unique noise to it like a windchime, and the shapes is why we are here and how I can sit on the bed without falling through, because I have a Shape, I have a Color, and I have a sound which at that point which didn't sound familiar.
And the song got more frantic and I believe it is because I was too focused on other stuff and the song seemed important. Like if I understood it i would understand. And I realisezed that I the verses went
Aabb and each coupled verse made something form (but when I wasn't paying attention it would just repeat verse one. So I paid attention and when I hear the whole thing my entire universe reformed.

And MY PERSONAL sound became a form, I became a violin, (played guitar a little no violin..) And when I BECAME the violin I was aware that my sound had folded in on itself. And therefore was aware that it was supposed to be there. And. The sounds were perfect and uniform and i saw the periodic table and all of the elements and saw their perfection.
I became at point aware of a choice. I could lose myself towards the rationale, solid way of thinking. And it felt male, or. Become one with this female energy that was holding me since. About 11 pm. I became aware of the fluctuations between the emotions and when I received the emotions and thoughts and memories of I of us of we of MICHAEL.
I threw the fuck up again and again and everything turned into jelly and then I was cold. I was no longer shapes inside shapes I was shapes besides shapes. I could look at myself as a circle and a square, and not a

Circle inside a square inside................
And I was cold and I was LOVE love love love love
And I AM. AND here I and I now and I am and I was and I will always be
I just got the feeling that it had happened millions of times to each of us. Like I had died but no death was involved.
Anyone else experience on 4aco? I'm going to try more for sure!

Thanks for reading and let me know if you want anything explained more or anything else.


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Re: 4acodmt total loss of self and the world [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23316620 - 06/07/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Good report man. 4-aco-dmt is a great psychedelic. Definitely on the level of the more traditional ones or maybe on a whole nother level of its own that even blows dmt out of the water when IVd. Ive been expereenting with 4-aco-met now though lately and its great too. Id say less euphoric than 4-aco-dmt and less organic feeling but much more visual at equivilant doses and definitely just as good of a substance. I haven't take the 4-aco-met very far yet though.


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Re: 4acodmt total loss of self and the world [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23442238 - 07/14/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

4-aco-dmt is a great substance. My personal highest dosage was 80mg and it was insane. It's definitely a tryptamine to not underestimate. It will kick your ass as hard as shrooms would.

200mg must have been a crazy trip, especially judging from that trip report.


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