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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: ]
    #2258698 - 01/21/04 03:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If they're absolutely his will, then would you even need to pray for them?


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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: Frog]
    #2258721 - 01/21/04 03:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: ]
    #2258722 - 01/21/04 03:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

"If you find out which things are absolutely His will He will HAVE to give them to you. It may not be immediately but eventually He will have to. His will is explained in the text so I am not going to cover that in here."

so is it the grand scale that humans tend to think on that limits us in prayer? am i too  bold to say selfish reason mostly?

"Before we even begin to look at the mechanism of prayer we have to consider that the people doing the praying might not know what they are doing."

I could agree to that, as long as the mechanics are sound. this way I would be able to base a right or wrong value judgement on things (though I hesitate to do that sometimes :smile:)


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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: ]
    #2258742 - 01/21/04 03:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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It's all about the subject. Two things you do not do is look for confirming events or signs.




I think I disagree. How better to know the will of God unless you had confirming events or signs to show you what God will grant to you?

If you are saying that you can get what you want if you know what God's will is, then how do you know what God's will is? Confirming events and signs.


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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: kaiowas]
    #2258743 - 01/21/04 03:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: ]
    #2258768 - 01/21/04 03:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Mr_Mushrooms said:
A study can test the effectiveness of prayer by testing the results of people that 'pray'. But if the people that pray do not know how to pray the results of the study will be flawed because it is not testing whether 'prayer' is effective, but instead, is testing the effectiveness of people who don't know how to "pray."

To put it another way, the studies that are testing prayer, are they testing 'prayer' or are they testing the ability of people that pray?

The answer is fairly obvious.





this kind of reasoning can be applied to any study dealing with claims of the supernatural:

A study can test the effectiveness of contacting the dead by testing the results of people that 'contact the dead'. But if the people that contact the dead do not know how to contact the dead the results of the study will be flawed because it is not testing whether 'contacting the dead' is effective, but instead, is testing the effectiveness of people who don't know how to "contact the dead."

To put it another way, the studies that are testing contacting the dead, are they testing 'contacting the dead' or are they testing the ability of people that contact the dead?

The answer is fairly obvious.


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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: Frog]
    #2258781 - 01/21/04 03:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: ]
    #2258795 - 01/21/04 03:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah you are not too of track as well. it's a tribe that comitted a mass suicide as protest, since their lands and beliefs were being taken away. it's a song by a metal band (sepultura), yet it's all acoustic. very cool!! but I also like the meaning it implies.

puts things pespective for me, so I realize everyday that this land is not something to own. sure we took it from the natives, but really it was the way we went about taking the land as if mother earth has a price on it. just a perspective, that's all.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.


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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: ]
    #2258798 - 01/21/04 03:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, my dear Mr Mushrooms, there is more than one way to communicate with God, and more than one way to skin a cat.  :grin:

I have my own way of communicating with God.  I gave up on the prescribed ways of communicating with God, because they don't work for me. 

The way I approach God, is:  "Hey!!!"

Works for me!


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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: Frog]
    #2258804 - 01/21/04 03:54 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

And in my opinion, we're not off-topic.  We're doing a necessary "stray".  But I'll butt out and just watch the conversation evolve, at this point.  Thanks for discussing this with me.    :heart:


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    #2258807 - 01/21/04 03:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: The Mind Body Connection [Re: kaiowas]
    #2258837 - 01/21/04 04:17 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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