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weedsmokingasian
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Re: PNW ID Azzies and first Cyanescens? [Re: Lucis]
#22550205 - 11/20/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah it was kind of like that
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Lucis
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Those are beautiful mushrooms.
Also, you should familiarize yourself with the major identifying features of the genus Psilocybe so you wont worry so much about if all your finds are legit or not, once you known what to look for macroscopically speaking, you will have more confidence in your hunting abilities.
I have never hunted PNW, would love to some day, and is actually a goal of mine. But I have hunted dung lovers and wood lovers in the SE, USA with great success. My observations about the genus Psilocybe, is that after you have found some, nothing really looks, feels, and smells like they do.
Below is a list of things to help you out with identifying Psilocybe species, also I suggest buying the book Psilocybin mushrooms of the world by Paul Stamets, it's a great read and I have learned a large amount about the genus from it.
Pellicle on cap Purple/brown spore print translucent striated cap margin when fresh habitat-varies for lignicolous (wood lovers) and coprophilic (dung lovers) fungi. growth habits-many are cespitose or gregarious. blue staining
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OregonBluesGil
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Re: PNW ID Azzies and first Cyanescens? [Re: AstaCrazyBull]
#22550367 - 11/20/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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AstaCrazyBull said: WSA becareful eating alot unless you Really know Azzy. She's a tough one for some. Just saying. 
Ya once abour 12 yrs ago, while living to Portland , After coming bck from the coast, with some Azzies, I ate like 4-5 big fresh ones. Lets JUST SAY THE WALLS IN MY ROOM WERE CLOSING IN ON ME!! fORCED SLEPT DREAMT,TRIP!
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weedsmokingasian
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Re: PNW ID Azzies and first Cyanescens? [Re: Lucis]
#22551725 - 11/20/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I noticed after picking the azure u just have the eye for it after that with the blue staining and lovely caramel caps just read about Galerina lookalikes and thought maybe I picked a bad one on accident. I definitely will get the book from Paul Stamets. He is a very interesting person. I would love for the walls to close in on me the visuals I get always suck the best ones I ever got were on cubes or N-bome. I still haven't done real acid I feel like I would have a bad trip on that but want to try it still.
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JuicyJunkie253
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I am looking for some answers to an experience I had for the first time last month. I had about 1 to 1.5 oz of dried P.Cyans I picked here in the beautiful PNW and I was wanting a nice hard trip that particular night however I don't own a scale so I just started munching mushrooms. I estimate I ate 5 to 7 grams dried, had a great time, awsome 3D visuals open and closed eye, knocked out about 4 am, everything was all good until the next morning (9AM) I woke up well rested but then I noticed I was having trouble controlling my hands when I was trying to eat my cereal. My fingers felt cramped/numb/paralysed! I tried to take a drink of milk and realized my upper lip as well was numb and non-responsive. I couldn't make my lips wrap around a smoke enough to hit it even!! I had a brief similar feeling in my legs that eventually went away first after about 45 min awake. HOWEVER the feelings in my hands and lips came and left through most of the day until 6 or 7 that night..
Does anyone have any idea of what might of happened?! Anyone else have similar experience? Was this maybe a slip-up on my identification skills or some sort of over dose? Pesticides? Histamine reactions? WTF?.. *Worth noting I had eaten mushrooms from the same pick two or three times within 14 days prior with no adverse effects.
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weedsmokingasian
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Sounds like the same feelings I had in my mouth and hands as well as my arms, knees kind of buckling. I'm no expert at all relatively new. I think this might be a typical side effect of shrooms or the paralysis which it is not known why. I'm sure if the government would allow these things to be properly researched we would know but it seems we can only speculate at the moment until we win the war on drugs.
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AstaCrazyBull
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The best theory that I've read, without details, is something triggers the part of the brain that controls/runs REM sleep while your awake. Personally my dreams will start before I fall asleep and while waking up for a bit. Kinda fun. But I don't eat more then level 2.
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DubSpore
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Re: PNW ID Azzies and first Cyanescens? [Re: AstaCrazyBull]
#22553914 - 11/21/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe its just your mind still kinda going back to normal after the huge changes... Closest i"ve ever been to paralysis was on an eighth of shrooms n i couldn't stop smiling the entire trip. It actually got annoying and painful. xD
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Re: PNW ID Azzies and first Cyanescens? [Re: DavidReishi]
#22553974 - 11/21/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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DavidReishi said: I think the jury's still out on the cause of the paralysis.
I'm convinced at this point people are just misidentifying.
I found some Marasmius Plicatulus growing among a ring of azzies, nowhere near pines. There's also the azzie lookalikes with red stems but I always forget their name.
^^ Someone was actually sporing a patch of these. I had seen it grow a little larger here and there other a few weeks and kept picking up his Gatorade bottle with slurry in it.
I dunno, I've spoken with a lot of people in the last few months on azzie paralysis and it's pretty much either 1) bacteria, 2) misidentifying, or 3) just the nice body high they give you & people just tripping too hard.
The closest things I experienced with the paralysis effect was laying in bed on hour 8 of the trip wondering when it would be over so the hyperspace multiverses would stop dying/rebirthing in my head.
These things are like a lightning bolt up your azz
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Adden

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Re: PNW ID Azzies and first Cyanescens? [Re: Adden]
#22553984 - 11/21/15 02:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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But then therein lies the rub; if it doesn't exist and it's misidentifying, how are people getting positive IDs with proper morphology and still getting it? There's anecdotal stuff everywhere on the Internet about it.
I ate some fresh in two different regions off different substrate and no go. Pellicle and all, too, which kinda felt pretty um.. well, anyway.
There was a lone cyan at the beach today. Almost nothing else around it or was covered in heavy frozen grass. Wasn't bad azzie morphology either. Couldn't bring myself to pick the only one in sight.
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weedsmokingasian
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Re: PNW ID Azzies and first Cyanescens? [Re: Adden]
#22558218 - 11/22/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm thinking about going towards Oregon is it warmer than WA coast since it frosted did it frost out in Oregon too? Is it over I need to find more I only have like 12grams left
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maynardjameskeenan
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The coast rarely ever freezes, so there's always that..
I seriously doubt that the mushroom season is over. Maybe in January, unless it gets really cold and stays really cold.
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JuicyJunkie253
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Re: PNW ID Azzies and first Cyanescens? [Re: Adden]
#22578914 - 11/26/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dys said:
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DavidReishi said: I think the jury's still out on the cause of the paralysis.
I'm convinced at this point people are just misidentifying.
I found some Marasmius Plicatulus growing among a ring of azzies, nowhere near pines. There's also the azzie lookalikes with red stems but I always forget their name.
^^ Someone was actually sporing a patch of these. I had seen it grow a little larger here and there other a few weeks and kept picking up his Gatorade bottle with slurry in it.
I dunno, I've spoken with a lot of people in the last few months on azzie paralysis and it's pretty much either 1) bacteria, 2) misidentifying, or 3) just the nice body high they give you & people just tripping too hard.
The closest things I experienced with the paralysis effect was laying in bed on hour 8 of the trip wondering when it would be over so the hyperspace multiverses would stop dying/rebirthing in my head.
These things are like a lightning bolt up your azz 
Well I can for 100% sure cross off 2. and 3. 2- I have my own patch out in the back yard that this has happened from and 3- In most cases this is happening way after peaking or even more often the next morning after tripping. I think its bacterial, more than one person has told me they ate some more than iffy decaying caps. Then again maybe just a coincidence though.
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Joeisthevolcano
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What If the mushrooms pick up some kind of heavy metal that is in the substrate? or contaminated with some other chemical/pollutant? I know this is possible. but im not sure what kind of effects eating contaminated mushrooms would have on someone. just a thought.
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Adden

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I wonder if it occurs in indoor specimens. That's got me puzzled. It's too bad it's not cultivated as widely as cubes. It would help narrow things down.
I started to wonder the other day if the Cesium levels from Fukushima are going to have an impact on them.
Whose brain is there to pick about baeocystin and norbaeocystin? If it was just psiloc(yb)in you'd hear about it a lot more often.
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