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Invisibleblacksabbathrulz
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worried about hallucinogens
    #2257994 - 01/21/04 12:19 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Recently I tried some HBWR and had a really really bad trip. It was so awful that I considered calling 911, punching myself out, and committing suicide in an effort to make it stop. I thankfully have such a love for life that I overcame it, but anyway I am concerned about ever doing hallucinogens again. This is mainly for fear of another bad trip. So this essentially a question for experienced trippers, especially those who have had bad trips, out of the hallucinogens are there any that are less likely to produce a bad trip as opposed to others. Or any advice on maybe how to prevent bad trips or deal with them. Thankyou very much for any input.


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #2258015 - 01/21/04 12:24 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

what you have to do is look inside your self and find what caused that bad trip.

what was your mental state, how did you feel, were there any events in the past that have worried you.

what was your setting? were you at a place where you were comfortable, or were you out and about? were there other people triping with you or were you alone, were there perople who werent tripping around you while you were?

this thread chould probably be in the trip tips forum

all of these things play an improtant roll in your trips.


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    #2258064 - 01/21/04 12:41 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2258106 - 01/21/04 12:49 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I ate 10 of them


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #2258141 - 01/21/04 12:54 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

"you live, and you learn."


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #2258296 - 01/21/04 01:33 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well what made it a bad trip?

Was it because you felt so sick and was having horrible body symptoms? HBWR seeds make me feel horrible

Or was it because you were thinking about things with reality that you coudlnt handle or didn't want to think about?


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: Help on the Way]
    #2258306 - 01/21/04 01:36 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Oh man HBWR make my muscles ache so bad like none other, at the same time of making my stomach feel like i swallowed hydrochloric acid.


Yea i defenitely would stay away from HBWR. Thats your problem.


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #2258398 - 01/21/04 02:03 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ya, I found that 65% of HBWR effects are not good.


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: Haoma]
    #2259370 - 01/21/04 12:27 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

HBWR was a good set of training wheels for me, an introduction to tripping.

Worth doing once, i'd say. The audio was pretty neat (Ever hear a noisey crowd as one voice speaking an alien language?)

Dramamine for the nausea is highly reccommended.

Had you ever done them before? I would have started at a slightly lower dose.


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    #2259388 - 01/21/04 12:35 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #2259513 - 01/21/04 01:19 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah taking HBWR was the first mistake. I highly reccomend mushrooms, im sure they will treat you right, take like 2 to 3 grams dry. Peace.


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: RespectTheFungus]
    #2260323 - 01/21/04 05:56 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

my first mushroom trip i felt a "bad trip" coming on, I was laying in my bed in the dark sweating like i had a 110 fever and thinking i was mad with malaryia like you see on tv haha! That first trip sort of "rooted" me when I was in my room. Well anyway I got fed up and decided to fix my trip and I got a fan out to cool me down, changed my music and eventually got up the nerve to go outside for a walk. I love walking through a naturey feeling place on shrooms now


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: RespectTheFungus]
    #2260881 - 01/21/04 09:19 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

people dont know how to dose, HBWR thats why they have a bad trip. Because the cyanogenic glucides become active when you ingest them.


BIG HINT!


Dose sublingually.


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #2260997 - 01/21/04 09:56 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

same thing happened to me, and i'm still not fully recovered, fucking HBWR, wish i never heard of it.


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: RespectTheFungus]
    #2262359 - 01/22/04 11:03 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

RespectTheFungus said:
I highly reccomend mushrooms, im sure they will treat you right, take like 2 to 3 grams dry.




Dude! Not trying to be contrary or anything, and I am certainly with you on the trying mushrooms thing, but 2-3 grams dry for someone relatively new who has already had a bad trip experience?! Yowzers! Ain't that a bit high? Ok, so I am probably much whimpier than other people, but it would still seem a good idea to stay on the safer side and recommend 1.5-2 grams dry for the first time.


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    #2262672 - 01/22/04 01:44 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #2263627 - 01/22/04 08:38 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

maybe youre right, but i always thought body weight had nothing to do with lsd or shrooms.


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #2263770 - 01/22/04 09:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Because you guys arent doing it on portal nights. Do it right near the full moon.


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #2263951 - 01/22/04 10:28 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

a bad trip is not something that you should avoid. there was/is something in your sub-consouse(sp?) that caused the bad trip. you should try to find out what caused it, and do something to fix it. dont be afraid to trip again, a bad trip followed by some self exploration can lead to a very positive trip in the future... i think


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Re: worried about hallucinogens [Re: MojoRisin]
    #5661066 - 05/22/06 07:39 PM (11 years, 6 days ago)

I have a question for all of you,

What the hell is HBWR?


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