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Thanks for the book recommendations homies!
I just ordered it off amazon, and I grabbed Prometheus rising as well, which I've been recommended before...and funny enough is by the same author
Very cool man
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#22592261 - 11/29/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Firstly, I'm not doing psychotherapy here, and secondly, there is the issue of authenticity. I attempt to be genuine as a therapist, and not remain impassive as an analyst is trained to be. The analyst endeavors to be a projection screen upon whom the analysand can project his or her issues, which are simply noted and reflected back to the analysand. It is a technique, but one which is lacking in any truly authentically human mode of being-in-the-world. There are times to keep a 'poker face' in the face of absurdity, and there is a time for allowing one to spontaneously manifest one's personality. I chose the latter in this instance because I judged it to be more instructive than mere impassivity. I usually respond more impassively, do I not? More logically, without much emotion is my M.O.. It is one thing to laugh at a statement, and quite another to laugh at the person who uttered the statement. We are not our thoughts. No, I do not read these forums while biting my tongue, but as I PMed you, mere sensory perception of the world with a certain amount of reason arranging sensory information does not constitute a philosophy IMO. Crass materialism is the absence of a philosophy. It is a default to merely human mammalian perception which in a normal individual includes reason in the interpretation of perceptions.
But, as Ken Wilbur would say, there is "vision logic" that can be applied to those "glitches in The Matrix," such as the paranormal, parapsychological, transpersonal, transcendental, or mystical. Just as Newtonian physics does not apply to the quantum level of reality, sensory data and reason cannot account for the non-linear phenomenon of say, precognition, wherein one receives knowledge of an event before the event actually occurs in space-time. Reason, which is based on cause-effect, cannot account for an effect (knowledge of an event) preceding its cause. But, if psyche and space-time are two sides of the self-same reality, there are alternative models to cause-effect which could be operating simultaneously in parallel with cause-effect that account for non-linear phenomena.
I do not recognize this internet meme (Greater Internet Fuckwad) you illustrate that involves anonymity plus audience. But, have you ever needed a Zen slap, or been God-smacked? God knows I have, and on the occasion I mentioned to Universaleyeni, one was followed by a series of nested synchronistic occurrences. Sometimes that energy is retained until someone else requires it, and then it takes leave of its former recipient. It's not about egoically doling out what may appear to be a wanton insult. I am not in the habit of insulting people, but once in a while, acting outside my usual emotional reserve, may, contribute to someone's cartoon lightbulb turning on over his head.
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I was sent a mind package? from a dojo in Japan on the weekend.I performed a forced set of hand and body movements that to me and my friend were totally foriegn and yet perfectly formed to resemble a martial art(according to friend). This was whilst I was weaving time space around my fingers. I now strangely feel like I have a skill set that I did not have before. Oh harmine lemon tek subs and chang. I know it sounds absurd and im ok with that.
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MarkostheGnostic said: Firstly, I'm not doing psychotherapy here, and secondly, there is the issue of authenticity. I attempt to be genuine as a therapist, and not remain impassive as an analyst is trained to be. The analyst endeavors to be a projection screen upon whom the analysand can project his or her issues, which are simply noted and reflected back to the analysand. It is a technique, but one which is lacking in any truly authentically human mode of being-in-the-world. There are times to keep a 'poker face' in the face of absurdity, and there is a time for allowing one to spontaneously manifest one's personality. I chose the latter in this instance because I judged it to be more instructive than mere impassivity. I usually respond more impassively, do I not? More logically, without much emotion is my M.O.. It is one thing to laugh at a statement, and quite another to laugh at the person who uttered the statement. We are not our thoughts. No, I do not read these forums while biting my tongue, but as I PMed you, mere sensory perception of the world with a certain amount of reason arranging sensory information does not constitute a philosophy IMO. Crass materialism is the absence of a philosophy. It is a default to merely human mammalian perception which in a normal individual includes reason in the interpretation of perceptions.
But, as Ken Wilbur would say, there is "vision logic" that can be applied to those "glitches in The Matrix," such as the paranormal, parapsychological, transpersonal, transcendental, or mystical. Just as Newtonian physics does not apply to the quantum level of reality, sensory data and reason cannot account for the non-linear phenomenon of say, precognition, wherein one receives knowledge of an event before the event actually occurs in space-time. Reason, which is based on cause-effect, cannot account for an effect (knowledge of an event) preceding its cause. But, if psyche and space-time are two sides of the self-same reality, there are alternative models to cause-effect which could be operating simultaneously in parallel with cause-effect that account for non-linear phenomena.
I do not recognize this internet meme (Greater Internet Fuckwad) you illustrate that involves anonymity plus audience. But, have you ever needed a Zen slap, or been God-smacked? God knows I have, and on the occasion I mentioned to Universaleyeni, one was followed by a series of nested synchronistic occurrences. Sometimes that energy is retained until someone else requires it, and then it takes leave of its former recipient. It's not about egoically doling out what may appear to be a wanton insult. I am not in the habit of insulting people, but once in a while, acting outside my usual emotional reserve, may, contribute to someone's cartoon lightbulb turning on over his head.
I'm well aware that you're not practicing psychotherapy here, it was merely a question. I'm bemused by your spontaneous laughter at 'his thought' (as opposed to merely getting under his skin), as his thought was not novel or new or anything we haven't seen a thousand times before around here, but whatever you say man... We have a subforum for thicker skinned people, refer to PS&P. This is not the place for smacking of any nature as I see it, Zen or otherwise. I don't think anyone signed up for your Zen class. I dunno if we'll come to a consensus on this, and am willing to let it go. It's just how I feel, and doesn't effect how I feel about you at all. I hope you know that.
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#22594391 - 11/30/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My final response to this issue is that there was nothing malicious intended by me. Neither was I intending to be callous. I make no apology for being adamant about meaningfulness as opposed to meaninglessness in life. BUT - and let me make myself perfectly clear about this - I apologize if I did in fact hurt anyone's feelings. Causing pain intentionally or unintentionally is diametrically opposite to my deepest values. My choice of words may not sit well with you, but upon reflection following your several comments, I am certain that there was no malevolence, not even sarcasm, just an emotive response to a statement that struck me as absurd. Absurdity can often result in laughter if that which is absurd has not resulted in tragedy (like the gunman who killed because he believed he was stopping the harvesting of living baby parts. That's absurd, but stupid and tragic also ).
As to spontaneous laughter, I'm glad to be able to still experience that, but never from someone slipping on a banana peel and falling down, for example. That hurts. The more chronology I gather, the more non-sequitur certain statements appear to me. It's like hearing "The whole universe, including intelligent life and self-aware human beings, is just a chance occurrence, just probability." That used to 'get under my skin' when I first set foot upon a path and I was still very unsure. Later, it caused me to frown because of continuing doubts. Much later it caused me to smile slightly. Now I sometimes LOL. I'm NOT laughing at a person's pain or despondency because their mind is fraught with nihilistic thoughts about existence. Been there, done that, and it was a difficult stage of life to say the least, but I was fortunate to have moved past that stage.
I hope that anyone experiencing the pain and despair of life's apparent meaninglessness comes to the understanding that is is a stage (the "Dark Night of the Soul") and that one should never act on the negative ideas as if they are a final truth. They are not. I want everybody to weather the "dark night" until it passes, which it will, because it is a delusion, it will pass, it is not final truth. This is the real value to patience and long-suffering. The shit WILL pass (no matter how slow and constipated life can get). "I hope you know that."
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No, I don't think you hurt his feelings, it was more of a flex the epeen laugh of overly competitiveness from people who disagree about their world view. Plenty of people who view existence and human life as probability find meaning in living, they find it in family, friends, loved ones, charitable actions, education, and hobbies. There is no meaning to existence itself, but there is meaning found in living life. It's just a different worldview.
I find that banana peel statement equally bizarre, it's slapstick humor, it reminds me of Quest for Fire and a coconut falling on the head of the denser tribe that does not use language, Ray Dawn Chong, who is infinitely more sophisticated and uses language breaks out into laughter, eventually teaching them the value of laughter when it happens again. I don't think anyone laughs when an old woman falls down a flight of stairs.
I hope that someday S&M posters can coexist and learn from each other in spite of their individual differences, it's a lofty dream though....
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#22596555 - 11/30/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jeez, all this over a graem?
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: Hobozen]
#22596678 - 11/30/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not really, more of realizing everyone is at their own stage of awakening in this life, there was nothing absurd about his statement. Precisely when in life are we taught about synchronicity and dream interpretation? Certainly not during the first 17 years or so of my education.... I dunno, I stumbled upon The Doors of Perception and The Joyous Cosmology in my high school library, some Ram Dass tapes in my mother's book cabinet, and my abnormal psychology professor dug pretty deeply into Jung for an undergrad course. But I see how others in a different set of conditions see things entirely differently.
It's just how somebody reacts when their world view is challenged that I find disappointing. Same ol' shit for 15yrs now.
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#22596766 - 11/30/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aren't you playing into the same game by being disappointed? The Universe doesn't get disappointed. Or so I like to think. Awakening is something that happens from time to time, I don't think it's something we should see as a sort of idealistic means through which we should behave. Then it becomes something else... another ego trip. Sometimes the dream will be lucid but it's only natural that we drift back into deep sleep.
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: Hobozen]
#22596872 - 11/30/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Perhaps, it's just I have this great big loving psychedelic family and we sure as fuck don't treat each other like we do here, I want to abduct you all so that you could have a taste.
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#22596881 - 11/30/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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In old times, medicine was a form of magic.
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: Asante]
#22600658 - 12/01/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been really wanting to do some magic, but I can't imagine for what end.
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usulpsychonaut said: I've been really wanting to do some magic, but I can't imagine for what end.
The Greater Good?
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: CosmicJoke]
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CosmicJoke said: Perhaps, it's just I have this great big loving psychedelic family and we sure as fuck don't treat each other like we do here, I want to abduct you all so that you could have a taste.
I doubt it's butterflies and daisies 100% of the time, the beast has gotta come out sooner or later (in some form).. If this was in RL I'm sure we'd overlook Markos' minor nuisance and see it as nothing
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: Hobozen]
#22603330 - 12/02/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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There are countless things I adore about MtG, alas how he deals with people who challenge his beliefs are not one of them. Let's stop talking about this FFS.
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: CosmicJoke]
#22603525 - 12/02/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm for that but for all of your irritation and speculation, nobody has asked "why," so allow me a final comment. In days gone by this would've called a formal apologia.
For the better part of a very formative decade (18 to 28), I struggled long and hard as a young man to extricate myself from the greater culture of materialism which subdivides into secularism, nihilism, atheism, and some other -isms to be sure. Some of you already know this about me, especially CJ but allow me to string them together in a pertinent way. I changed my life plan from becoming a physician (my parents' dream) to becoming a useless philosophy major. I 'found myself' amidst the most other-worldly philosophers. Before that, I had already rejected my nuclear family's secular, cultural Judaism, and refused a Bar Mitzva alienating my father for life. When I explored Christianity (as a forbidden spiritual inheritance for Jews) to the extent of taking catechism, baptism, and a seminary degree, I alienated the majority of my extended family (aunts, uncles, and some cousins) even though none of them lived spiritual or religious lives. Family dynamics continue to color my personality dynamics.
In sticking to my principles, I never endeavored to acquire wealth and while I cherish everything I do have, I have guarded against greed just as I have against envy, lust, gluttony and all the "Cardinal Sins," NOT because I am a Catholic Christian but because excess is diametrically opposed to the philosophical wisdom that has guided me towards living as virtuous a life as I am able. Moderation is unpopular in decadent America, particularly in a city like Miami where I had established myself, and being moderate further alienated me from finding a compatible partner until relatively late in life (age 43). Alienation from family AND society has also contributed to the formation of my personality, and personality characteristics are what is being examined here, not my Center.
You will all eventually find at some point as you transition from middle age to old age that you, like most people, draw more closely to family and friends for existential comfort. I have no family any longer and very few friends, which is typical of introverts (not to mention difficult ones). However, being an INTP means that I have Introverted Thinking. I live my life mostly in my thoughts, mainly philosophical thoughts. Now this might sound outlandish to those people whose last letter in their type is a 'J,' because that means that you extravert your Feelings or Thinking and live your lives with a constitutional emphasis on actual people and social events. It is not my "beliefs" that cannot be challenged, it is my values. My values, the intellectual principles by which I live are in a real sense my 'family.' These are the entities that I live most intimately with and give me the most comfort. For example, I'll sooner read and reflect on a page in The Power of Now, than talk with my own wife when I am disturbed. As for noted criticisms, I am aware of those shortcomings and do not deny them. My wife likes to point out that my "Mercury in in Leo" according to my astrological chart, and when my most cherished ideas are challenged, it does, as some of you have observed, make my hackles rise. Quite right. This is a manifestation of who I am much more than a behavior that I choose, more about being than doing.
Strictly speaking, I am not a world-hating Gnostic, but I do find my type in Gnostic terminology to be something of a Pneumatic (possessor of gnosis) and something of a Psychic (someone having faith), but I am not a Hylic (unbelieving materialist). I do not play well with materialists and sometimes my diplomacy breaks down because, admittedly, I am simply not yet perfect in my acceptance of materialists, crass or philosophical. So, while these points may not make my more irritable qualities more palatable, I've cited some of the psychological precursory experiences that have given rise to them. "Sorry about that Chief."
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We can't be that different, I've read Be Here Now and The Power of Now countless times when I'm disturbed as opposed to seeking counsel from friends. I actually prefer the audio tapes to The Power of Now, there's just something soothing about listening to Tolle's voice that makes everything ring true. I'm highly introverted and am attracted to my own states of internal bliss, I can get high off pranayama and it's like sitting at the feet of a guru, I'm just dumbstruck with good vibrations.
But for me it's still all God in drag man, your nemesis Diploid I've learned so much from, he's a fucking genius. Of course I pay attention to him in the Science & Tecnhology subforum, which incidentally has 1000% less drama than PS&P or S&M. I feel like when you just see that people see things from different reality tunnels and actually listen to them and pay attention you are advancing your growth 10 fold.
-------------------- Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good. If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care. It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence. I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: Asante]
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Thats some nice synchronicity. IME there's a pandora's box of psychic phenomna after extreme heavy psyche use. I don't tell anyone about it anymore though. It's like talking to somebody about your dreams.
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: CosmicJoke]
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You are entitled to your own opinions of course, and I never thought of Diploid or anyone for that matter as my "nemesis." People can be nasty and vindictive for hardly any reason at all - speaking about people who defend their beliefs - especially those individuals who have never been blessed with any religious experience. A truly religious experience cannot be reduced to simpler dimensions, and its effect on the experiencer is incontrovertible, Victor Frankl illustrates his "Dimensional Ontology" with diagrams such as the one I included below. This one illustrates the contradictions that occurs when a higher dimension is projected onto lower dimensions. The contradiction makes no sense, for a cylinder is clearly not a rectangle and a sphere in combination.
I do not have a problem with Scientific Empiricism. The Scientific Method is a logical approach to the quantitative measure of quantifiable data. Consciousness does not permit quantitative measurement since consciousness is immaterial and does not have physical extension in space or time. Rather than acknowledge that physical science has limitations with regard to "the eye which sees all but which is never seen," namely, consciousness, certain scientific materialists merely deny the existence of phenomena others have reported, and might even be so dishonest to deny any non-ordinary experience they themselves might experience because it doesn't fit the scientific box. There is that story about Captain John Hunter's discovery of the platypus - a mammal that laid eggs, had a duck-bill, and a venomous barb. The story was received as a hoax. One version says that the notes and drawings were originally destroyed because its existence didn't fit any known taxonomy of the day. While no doubt fictional, this is what materialists actually do when confronted with an experience that dissolves the boundaries of their limited world-view based on the five senses and reason alone. You may be an Introvert, but you've always struck me as being more 'S' than 'N,' more Sensate than Intuitive. That would explain why the sound of Tolle's voice is worth mentioning as opposed to the mere visual process of reading which bypasses the æsthetic tonal quality of hearing and just seeks to discern the intellectual meaning. IF you are a 'P' type, you'll extravert the Sensing function and introvert the third function (Feeling or Thinking), applying one of these to your inner world. A 'J' type extraverts their Thinking or Feeling function, which they apply to the outer world, and they introvert their Sensing or Intuition (I have no idea how these types experience their world, but I've known INTJs who were all excellent at math, chess, music, and computer science among other related things). The 'J' differs from the 'P' types who excel at theoretical systems in philosophy, psychology, or theology - disciplines which order one's inner world, not the outer world. C.G. Jung was an INTP. So yeah, different people have their own "reality tunnels" but my objection is when people claim that their weltanschauung accounts for "All Quadrants, All Levels" as in Ken Wilber's model. Literalist Christians want to use biblical mythology to definitively explain away the physics of creation, while scientific atheist-materialists confound the 'hows' with the 'whys,' when their type of mentality seems incapable of acknowledging that the 'whys' constitute an impenetrable metaphysical Mystery. Moreover, metaphysics is a matter for contemplation, not ratiocination. Scientific atheist-materialists are one-sidedly fixated to ratiocination to the exclusion of other modes of apprehension. To a Richard Dawkins mentality, physics is ultimately preceded by MORE physics. Metaphysics is reduced to a currently unknown physics instead of a Reality that transcends physics. Infinity may mean a qualitative and experiential metaphysical characteristic of the Ultimately Real, not just a mathematical notation, but try to tell a materialist-atheist that.
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Re: I believe in Magic now. [Re: CosmicJoke]
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I doubt you'll appreciate my generation of rap but here goes..... "Synchronicity, you can't hit what you can't see.... got a problem that I can't fix? Then just zzzzzzap!"
I actually rather liked that.
Real magic is to create the illusion of something when it is in fact something else, when the problem reaction solution works why change it? When facing the collective fears don't happen until the last tree on Easter Island was chopped down in favor of idols, why didn't they realize their denial?
Boy you've been on an apocalyptic run of late, I'm sure this society will come crumbling down into a third world nation eventually.... Hopefully I'll die before that and at least haven't spawned children, which gives me the advantage of being able to root for the human race without getting that attached..... I'm at least theoretically prepared for a megaquake off the Cascadia fault line .... 50mins is more time than I can spare atm but will give it a go later tonight, after watching Homeland.
Check out dutchsinse on youtube, he does earthquake updates and forecasts. He's very on top of his game.
Dane Wigington, the video I posted, does what I consider to be an amazing weekly update on the current state of affairs. What most don't realize or would even begin to want to realize, is the extent of this ongoing geoengineering, even though to those who know what they are looking at it's so obvious as to be ridiculous.
I just don't appreciate being sprayed like a lab rat and having to breathe nano particulates of alumina, barium hydroxide, and strontium from the planes that are pumping them out virtually daily. Look up you may just see a few of them!
After the climate keeps warming, the geoengineers will make it official and really start in on their plans to cool the globe. Everyone will be happy because they will be doing "what they can" by reducing the amount of sunlight hitting the planet while completely fucking up the climate in the process for profit.
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