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Thayendanegea
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: Memories]
#24286576 - 05/01/17 12:02 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Memories said: Coming up on 4 months sober. Going to at least 6 meetings a week, and i have commitments at 3 of them.
Also working on my 4th step with my sponsor.
Second time getting sober, and i think it's going much better than the first, as i'm not fixated on an unhealthy relationship this time. It's allowed me to get to know people in AA in a new area (San Francisco) much more quickly and thoroughly.
Congrats on 24 hrs.memories...sounds like you're building a good foundation.
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I'm in a terrible fucking mood
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Thayendanegea
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What's the matter?
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TheFakeSunRa
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This and that
I'm already feeling better
There's some shit I gotta face up to though
It's no fun being an adult sometimes
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Thayendanegea
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Indeed...I feel ya there. Hope things go smoothly for you and I'm pretty sure you'll feel better after the facing up to is over.
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Anonymous #9
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Alcohol is a terrible addiction I am concerned I can finish an entire bottle of vodka in a single day.
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Thayendanegea
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That is a lot of vodka, and, yes...I agree that you should be concerned. How long have you drank like this? Do you want to stop? If so, AA is a good place to stop...it has worked for me and millions of others around the world. All you require is a desire to stop drinking to join. Honesty, open mindedness and willingness are indispensable...but, I think I was 1 for 3 in that department when I got sober....the others will come.
Wishing you peace on this journey. Please PM me if you would like to talk.
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TheFakeSunRa said: How's it going Repo?
got bored and then drunk then bored again on day seven but didn't go crazy with it. back on the wagon day two. it isn't really a big deal at this point i just kind of needed that reference point i guess. it isn't like i demonize alcohol, hell i make drinks for a living,
i just have been there done that a long time ago and it is time to spend that energy bettering myself rather then managing burying my head in a bottle all the time.
i still have to keep on keeping on with it but before this i had done three days three times in the previous month so the physical side of it has been pretty much non existent. mentally i feel a bit depersonalized, i have spent the vast majority of my non work time drinking. i get bored of playing games and the routine but drinking won't fix any of that.
i am also stressed out about some real estate stuff i have going on and there is no avoiding that but i can cope without the bottle. i had several trigger type things last week and none of them really got to me. it's all about being persistent and mentally aware for myself.
thanks for asking. il let you know wensday when it is a week again, that felt like a tangible base, or at least the start of one. i was giving an AA friend shit because i had 6 days and he was drinking and doing meth but still playing the AA game, even so far as to speak at a workshop. i was impressed with his hypocritical actions despite my repulsion. he is a good guy and trust me i understand wanting to have my cake and eat it also.
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 I'm an alcoholic and my problem is Vince. My last drink was Jan. 3 2014. I tried to quit/detox on my own a couple times and ended up having to go to ICU three times.
I finally did a 28 day detox/rehab, got out and did my 90 in 90, got a sponsor, found a home group, and was diagnosed with advanced stage 2 liver disease. I also started taking kratom for pain relief and well being. I was prescribed naltrexone injections once a month for a year to help with my cravings because I was a such a major boozebag (almost 45 years).
Most of my second year was kind of pink cloudish, doing the AA thing, got successfully treated for Hep C , and eventually stopped the kratom because I started using it addictively.
After 2 years sober, I developed almost all of these symptoms of PAWS, plus some major RLS at night, shaky hands, major confusion, forgetfulness. I really felt like my sanity was disappearing.
I went to my shrink, was prescribed Gabapentin and Paxil in increasing doses (currently 300mg 3x daily and 60mg respectively) and later got Wellbutrin(100 mg 2x daily). I'm also taking meds for high BP, something for gout, IBS and something else for my stomach. I'm was also seeing a therapist once a week for a few months and now every 2 weeks.
I'm not too keen about taking all these meds but I am doing better. If anyone has sent me a lately and I didn't reply, sorry, this might explain why. I'm so glad my Republican Gov was 1 of the few who opted in for obamacare, I haven't paid a penny and have been poked and prodded a lot. Hell my Hep C meds alone would have been about $80,000. Anybody who is trying to quit drinking this poison, or is counting days, weeks, months, &  It does get better. This could be the most important thing you'll ever do in your life. Alcohol really fucked me up, and I'm sure all the H, coke and meth when I was in my 20's didn't help either.
Some of the things I say to myself to help stay sober are 1 day at a time, let go and let God and (don't pick up)no matter what.
I can never drink again, I'm allergic to it, and I'm OK with that. Stay strong people, we can do this.
(BTW, I've been composing and editing this post for weeks, months, lol)
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: vinsue]
#24309236 - 05/10/17 09:36 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey Vinsue, glad you are doing well. What do you mean when you say your problem is Vince?
As for myself, I remain in the area where I can say i drink too often, too much, have a drinking issue... but dont yet see myself as a true alcoholic.
For me six beers a day is what my natural inclination is and I have to actively resist to avoid dirnking that, and I know that is way too much to be healthy .
Especially now that I am involved heavily in competitive martial arts that kind of drinking will become more and more of an albatross around my neck as I get older.
So alcoholic or not I need to curb my drinking.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: Moonshoe]
#24309241 - 05/10/17 09:38 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Hey Vinsue, glad you are doing well. What do you mean when you say your problem is Vince?
As for myself, I remain in the area where I can say i drink too often, too much, have a drinking issue... but dont yet see myself as a true alcoholic.
For me six beers a day is what my natural inclination is and I have to actively resist to avoid dirnking that, and I know that is way too much to be healthy .
Especially now that I am involved heavily in competitive martial arts that kind of drinking will become more and more of an albatross around my neck as I get older.
So alcoholic or not I need to curb my drinking.
Be thankful thats all you are at. I remember when beer used to get me drunk now even a bottle of vodka dosen't feel like enough. I don't even get hangovers just mild headaches and stomach cramps. I am getting nervous
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: vinsue]
#24309298 - 05/10/17 09:58 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great to hear from you Vinsue....sorry to hear about all the medical issues but I'm also happy that you are getting the medical attention you need.This is what affordable care was meant to do...people like you that have worked hard all their lives and cannot work any longer for whatever reason. I'm so glad to hear that you've stayed away from that 1st drink...an old friend of mine used to say..."It's not the caboose that hits you." I'm hoping we can get another NJ gathering together this year...sounds like a couple are interested.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: Moonshoe]
#24309421 - 05/10/17 10:56 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Hey Vinsue, glad you are doing well. What do you mean when you say your problem is Vince?
That's me, Vince.  My ability to justify bad behavior, or rationalize it, to cheat, steal, lie, and not give a fuck because of booze. I started when I was 12 weekend drinking, discovered drugs, became a dealer and never looked back, or really grew up. My thinking has been problematic for decades, as has my drinking and drugging. I'm getting better though. . . .
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: vinsue]
#24314059 - 05/12/17 11:12 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Made it 6 days till Tuesday. Had cocktail work to do wensday so had drinks, and i had half a bottle of wine with dinner last night. Nothing too crazy but starting again today. Couple of my big stressers have mostly resolved so that feels good.
I'm ok with drinking a little on my days off if that is what it stays at. I get concerned when i start taking shots and drinking all day when i am off.
It is an interesting comparison of not drinking vs drinking. Energy levels are great when not boozing.
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I'm ok with drinking a little on my days off if that is what it stays at.
So is everyone. You mentioned binge drinking before. Then you act like 4-6 days is some kind of miracle. If you're an alcoholic you can't drink like you're not. I don't know so I'm not going to try to define you. Maybe you're an alcoholic; maybe you're not. It sounds to me like you need to put it away for good, though.
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Thayendanegea
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Alcoholics inherently lose control when we take a drink...this doesn't always happen, but we find ourselves counting drinks and trying really hard to stop after we start drinking. Normal people don't even have to think that way at all....they just stop naturally...when they feel a little tipsy or whatever.
The Big Book recommends trying some controlled drinking to see if you are alcoholic...If you can stop easily every time, chances are you've not crossed that line yet. My point is that when you get to the point of having to physically control your drinking, you already have a problem.
Normal people do not.
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The Big Book recommends trying some controlled drinking to see if you are alcoholic
Really?
Can you copy and paste that passage?
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The worst thing about drinking is when you run out and then go buy more
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http://www.aa.org/assets/en_US/en_bigbook_chapt3.pdf page 31 last paragraph
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We do not like to pronounce any individual as alco- holic, but you can quickly diagnose yourself. Step over to the nearest barroom and try some controlled drinking. Try to drink and stop abruptly. Try it more than once. It will not take long for you to de- cide, if you are honest with yourself about it. It may be worth a bad case of jitters if you get a full knowl- edge of your condition.
Though there is no way of proving it, we believe that early in our drinking careers most of us could have stopped drinking. But the difficulty is that few alcoholics have enough desire to stop while there is yet time. We have heard of a few instances where people, who showed definite signs of alcoholism, were able to stop for a long period because of an overpow- ering desire to do so.
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My attempts at controlled drinking seem to immediately turn into a speedball binge. 
I've got a little over 4 months now. Multiple commitments, sponsor, working on my 4th step, and fellowshipping with other people in the program throughout the week. Also seeing a lot of music with fellow Wharf Rats (Grateful Dead sober fellowship).
I even spoke at a meeting last night.
Sobriety is really pretty awesome. I'm in an extremely intense program to help jump start my career, and there is no way i would be able to do it if i wasn't sober. I'm completely non-functioning when drinking and getting high.
Good to see you guys posting!
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