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Wasted, don't give up!
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: gopher]
#28139717 - 01/14/23 04:02 PM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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morrowasted said: I went to a meeting for the first time in a long time today. I don't really feel much hope for myself
I can give you a link to a big book thumping group, its mostly sex and love and codependt meetings, but they follow the big book to the word, just replaceing drinking with thinking, the book does say the disease is centered in the mind
There is a lit of alcoholics in the group too, so if you wanted a sponsor a fellow named kimia could hook you up with an alcoholic sponsor
The best time to do the steps is when you think life is hopeless, it gives you something to accomplish and feel good about
The step work is the only thing that kept me going last year, I was in a hopeless state of mind, I learned a lot
Don't really feel like I lie to myself or fail to take inventory or lack the capacity to be useful to others. I've been through the steps multiple times and I used to sponsor people. I used to try to pick apart every relapse to figure out what went wrong but I really don't think I was doing anything wrong...
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gopher
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Maybe you need to start sponsoring people again, thats what my group would say, its a 12 step program not 11
My alcoholic rampages are so apparent thats enough to keep me from drinking these days, I'll still slip up if someone puts a bottle of lorazapam in front ofme which leads to the same outcome, luckily that scenario dosnt really happen to me
Make some real outreach calls to people with sobriety instead of posting on the internet, I can get you some numbers to call if you want, just random fellows
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: gopher]
#28139800 - 01/14/23 04:43 PM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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Nobody wants a sponsor that has zero clean time
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: gopher]
#28139881 - 01/14/23 05:13 PM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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Good to hear you’re working the steps. He did go to an Aa meeting man I mean give the guy some slack. Everyone has their own program but bottom line is everyone that is on this particular forum has the intent to get sober or currently is sober and working a program. Aa is as simple as alcoholics/like minded addicts getting together to discuss there issues, is that not what this thread is for? We aren’t here to scare anyone away now obviously I’m sure he know the steps and what they entail. We all have been in the shits just as bad as the next guy, it’s the same disease. Bless you, him, and her but help me.
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Don't mind me - just dropping by to share some funnies, that's all!

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My experience: The disease manipulates your thoughts, seeming like nothing is wrong. It was just insanity. What really got me to stop was liver damage. My face started getting red rashes when I would drink.
I probably wanted to die deep inside. But no, I'm not quite ready to leave this world. The lord has other plans for me. Pray and pray. Thank God for prayer. I prayed to God for mercy for years!
Some drink of pride, fear, escape.. or simply just to enjoy music.
I had to force my self to enjoy music and hobbies again, like I mean force. That was the difficult part for the first few months. Naturally I was picking up on that momentum, and all of the sudden, I was happy again. Like a kid! It's amazing. I was a Light again in God's world.
I thank God, the few friends from church and Aa. Believe and be Light.
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Moonlightblue said: My experience: The disease manipulates your thoughts, seeming like nothing is wrong. It was just insanity. What really got me to stop was liver damage. My face started getting red rashes when I would drink.
I probably wanted to die deep inside. But no, I'm not quite ready to leave this world. The lord has other plans for me. Pray and pray. Thank God for prayer. I prayed to God for mercy for years!
Some drink of pride, fear, escape.. or simply just to enjoy music.
I had to force my self to enjoy music and hobbies again, like I mean force. That was the difficult part for the first few months. Naturally I was picking up on that momentum, and all of the sudden, I was happy again. Like a kid! It's amazing. I was a Light again in God's world.
I thank God, the few friends from church and Aa. Believe and be Light.
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This is the best thread on here I have seen so far. Refreshing from the bullying,racist, rude, belittling and sexist remarks that are borderline rape talk. I am a big supporter and protector of any person wanting to improve themselves. I have more respect for them than most people. It is difficult and people deserve more respect and kudos then they get. Addiction is extremely difficult. Kudos to everyone
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RILE ME UP BOYS AND GALS ! Lots a love and blessings sending your way. We all got a story… love when people share theirs, we all find motivation through the next. Never ending paradox of LOVE BABY.
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My favorite thread… shrooms are great but damn… imagine trippin without them?!?! Wait whaaaaa? Damn str8! Shits real. Let’s make the most of our lives, time to make up for all the shit I stirred up! Being happy, kind, and loving is free. Crazy how these simple things can manifest into something greater… The INSANITY WAS UNBEARABLE. On our way to death and if it ain’t right away damn we might as well wished we would have been. Blessings on blessings.
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Prolific Koi said: Good to hear you’re working the steps. He did go to an Aa meeting man I mean give the guy some slack. Everyone has their own program but bottom line is everyone that is on this particular forum has the intent to get sober or currently is sober and working a program. Aa is as simple as alcoholics/like minded addicts getting together to discuss there issues, is that not what this thread is for? We aren’t here to scare anyone away now obviously I’m sure he know the steps and what they entail. We all have been in the shits just as bad as the next guy, it’s the same disease. Bless you, him, and her but help me.
I wasnt trying to be stand offish or mean, just trying to brainstorm, but to counter your point that he went to a meeting, is that you can go to meetings and still be dieing inside if you dont network, that's why I asked if he wanted some out reach numbers
I dont know what his meetings are like, but the ones in my town pale in comparison to the group I go to online
My in town meetings no one once asked me if I worked the steps, or had a sponsor, I just show up and sit at the back, a few people say hello but thats as far as it goes, like I said, I could be dieing and these people wouldnt know to help
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: gopher] 1
#28140604 - 01/15/23 04:44 AM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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At any rate, if ge can't sponsor cause he has no clean time, the only thing I can think of is, I think page 70, its talking about sex, but it can translate to anything
If sex (life,drinking,today,etc)
Is very troublesome, we throw ourselves the harder into helping others
Maybe instead of making an outreach call like I suggested, He instead takes some and help others
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: gopher]
#28140941 - 01/15/23 10:02 AM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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Very good post… for me as well! I just want to say that what you’re doing is pretty incredible tbh. I can look at what your doing as motivation to always be better than I was even yesterday… great insight here, and sorry if I came off a little aggressive but I just know we lose so many troops to this disease and it truly is a beast of its own. Really really refreshing knowing there’s always people working the program, if not today they might be tomorrow, we can only hope and just give our loving support! But our goal is to work the steps everyday, it’s the only way we can truly live our lives with love, peace, and serenity.
Love
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And I know people on here might now like when I say Hod or Jesus but that shouldn’t take away from what your higher power means to you. God and Jesus to me or anything to do with my faith has everything to do with my higher power. Same deal, sub in HIGHER POWER if that makes you feel more comfortable. I just grew up Christian and my experience with my spiritual journey may differ from the next but it is all the SAME. If the words are giving you trouble, just know that if we think for a second our higher power is ourself, we are fucked, licked, done.
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dont know what his meetings are like, but the ones in my town pale in comparison to the group I go to online
the last 2 have been really disappointing
The last one I went to only had four people and only one of them had any clean time. The guy working the coffee bar at that club told me that ever since covid most people just migrated online. I guess I should give it a try but it just doesn't feel right. Like in the same way that I don't feel like I could genuinely do therapy through zoom. But maybe I'm wrong
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The group I went too had a workbook the sponsor takes you through zoom and whatsapp if the sponsor is a long distance call away
https://12steps4hours.org/
They have a work shop at the end of the month, its run by a guy in Cocain Anonymous, but lots of people from my SLAA meeting help present the workshop, its open to any affliction
The guys normal CA meeting is midnight EST on zoom every Friday, I can get the deetz if anyone wants
But I suggest checking out the workshop its the last sunday of everymonth, print the workbook if you want to follow along and take notes
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: gopher]
#28141052 - 01/15/23 11:11 AM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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Oh great, Cameron puts his phone number for all on that page, if you need outreach see if he isnt busy, he is pretty crazy, he created the workbook
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous [Re: gopher]
#28141129 - 01/15/23 12:03 PM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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Thanks. The last time I was really involved in AA was like 7 years ago and things seemed to have changed a whole whole lot since then. I'll give an online meeting a shot tonight. I didn't drink yesterday and I intend not to drink today. Presently I actually don't feel like it. But that can change pretty quickly
I registered for the thing you posted
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Hell ya
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